Jarryd Hayne

[clokan]

He's a few years younger than me and due to various circumstances. I saw him play footy since about the age of 15 or 16.

Around the same time I heard he was a freak in athletics and took out national titles without ever having a coach or proper training.

The first time I saw him play, there was never any doubt in my mind he would be a great player.

He was a big kid and scored four or five tries without breaking a sweat. He had a truckload of confidence (most would say arrogance) which told you he wouldn't be awed at the top level.

I never totally liked the guy but enjoyed seeing him do well over the years. Some of the stuff that he did single-handedly for Parramatta and NSW was like watching that 15 year old kid all over again.

It really blew my mind to then see him play for the 49ers and I was disappointed he didn't make it.

After that, he never seemed to me like the same person when he came back to play for the Titans. He'd lost the spark he had before.

Personally, the stuff that came out of the recent court case is absolutely sickening and I hope they throw the book at the bloke. For mine, this will now always define him rather than his on-field achievements.

I also hope the NRL will take a step back and think about the culture of the game, as I think there's a chance this case is symptomatic of deeper problems in the game.

Not just the game, but society in general i think. Violence on the screen, music, we have become de- sencorsised .

I believe that is a bit of a furphy, society is much less violent than it was even 40 years ago.


Not sure how you'd measure that, but I think personally that if anything, the level of violence is more intense. For instance, there was no stomping on heads of the already unconscious that I recall. There might have been a lot of bar brawls but they'd end without ambulances in the main. Nowadays it seems there's knives god knows what else brought to the party - and often an ambulance involved and then even those guys and girls are in the line of fire.
The place has gone mad.

Crime rates, including violent crimes, have dropped significantly over the last 20 years.

Those crime rates may be falling but crime rates associated with reported violence to women is escalating.

I addressed that as well, I believe that could possibly be because we are in a time, that while still horrible it is easier to report than in past.

When I was a young man in the 1980's I was having lunch with my boss and was approached by a couple of detectives to participate in a lineup for a rape case. After my boss stopped laughing he gave me the afternoon off so I could go, though I wasn't that keen.

The police took me back to the Canberra City Station and left me in the lunch room with a bunch of other guys. After about 20 minutes they walked in with the suspect and asked us to line up, and then asked him to to slot in wherever he wanted. They then went out to grab the girl, brought her in and asked if she could identify her attacker and if so to touch them on the shoulder. No one way mirror, no barrier between her and us, just a bunch of guys in a canteen and one of them possibly the guy who raped her.

 

[Bigscreentv]

Just worries me when these young blokes have plenty of money, time on there hands, clubs that spend a lot of time and $ on teaching them what is expected in society and still find players who dont understand that in todays world you cannot do things like have sex in a public toilet.I guess we will always have a % like in our general population that will always do stupid things but the general public does not have the group guidance these players enjoy

I think it's important to keep in mind that this behaviour isn't widespread in the NRL, as much as some media organisations would like to think.

I don't want to do too much maths on a Thursday night, but:

16 teams X 30 players = 480 current players

How many recent players accused/convicted of tape = 3 that I can think of (Stewart, Hayne, Debellin)

3 / 480 = 0.6% of current/recent NRL players involved in these incidents, guilty or otherwise

Not super-accurate stats, but you get my point.

Most players do the right thing and can handle the money and responsibilities that come with it. Small % of bad ones spoil it for the rest. I'm in no way saying Stewart or Debelllin are guilty. Just trying to give context.

 

[Muffstar]

Who where those undesirables with the umbrellas when they left court,?

Yeah looked like a bunch of thugs.

 

[tony soprano]

Who where those undesirables with the umbrellas when they left court,?


So called "friends"

People that continue to tell him he can do no wrong.

 

[dazza65]

Who where those undesirables with the umbrellas when they left court,?


So called "friends"

People that continue to tell him he can do no wrong.

Which, at the end of the day, has been and will continue to be the downfall of a lot of athletes and tbh some “normal” people as well

 

[tony soprano]

Who where those undesirables with the umbrellas when they left court,?


So called "friends"

People that continue to tell him he can do no wrong.

Which, at the end of the day, has been and will continue to be the downfall of a lot of athletes and tbh some “normal” people as well

Yeah mate that and a mixture of his upbringing would be my guess. He is a spitting image of his old man

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

did you see Tony Williams outburst on social media, wow

 

[coivtny]

did you see Tony Williams outburst on social media, wow

And Krishnan Inu too. Can't believe these guys would include attacks on the victim in their bilious comments. It's one thing to support Hayne but to attack the victim is disgraceful.

 

[Speed2burn]

did you see Tony Williams outburst on social media, wow

So much for their Christian beliefs

It’s that sort of cocky “I didn’t do anything wrong” attitude that got Hayne in hot water in the first place. Hayne the footballer was great to watch but he always came across as very arrogant

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

did you see Tony Williams outburst on social media, wow

So much for their Christian beliefs

It’s that sort of cocky “I didn’t do anything wrong” attitude that got Hayne in hot water in the first place. Hayne the footballer was great to watch but he always came across as very arrogant

Especially that day at Campbelltown when he defeated WT'S with that field goal claiming "this is my house" well he's got a bigger house now and 3.8 years to ponder where it all went wrong

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

one of my friends was a physio with Parramatta from 2009 and said Haynes was always up himself compared to some other players

 

[Speed2burn]

one of my friends was a physio with Parramatta from 2009 and said Haynes was always up himself compared to some other players

Yeah my dads mate was a teacher at west’s field sports high when Hayne went there

He said Hayne was the worst student they’ve had to deal with. It can always be identified early and fixed bu doesn’t seem like Hayne really cared enough or seen anything wrong with his actions

 

[coivtny]

one of my friends was a physio with Parramatta from 2009 and said Haynes was always up himself compared to some other players

My mates daughter was also a physio at Parramatta, not sure what years. She said exactly the same thing. If he didn't like her treatment plan he'd say "Jarryd Hayne doesn't do that". Always find people who refer to themselves in the third person as very weird.

 

[jadtiger]

Rumours are that he has already lodged an appeal (which is his legal right).My personal hope is that his appeal is rejected.

 

[Tigerlily]


 

[Spud_Murphy]

did you see Tony Williams outburst on social media, wow

So much for their Christian beliefs

It’s that sort of cocky “I didn’t do anything wrong” attitude that got Hayne in hot water in the first place. Hayne the footballer was great to watch but he always came across as very arrogant

Sadly a lot of Christian men can be the worst. Male dominance over women is still viewed as a God given right in the teachings of many churches. Don’t get me started on what the Mormons believe, this where the likes of players such as Inu come from.

 

[jadtiger]

Sadly a lot of Christian men can be the worst. Male dominance over women is still viewed as a God given right in the teachings of many churches.

Unfortunately you are correct and you only have to look at our PM to see that attitude reinforced at the highest level.

 

[Guest]

Rumours are that he has already lodged an appeal (which is his legal right).My personal hope is that his appeal is rejected.

He needs to be careful on that front - sometimes appeals can make things worse - there are many who feel the sentence was too light, so it could swing the other way if he loses out.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What a pair of idiots Inu and Williams. are. The victim probably has an avenue to sue both now for slander. All to defend their rapist uce.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

one of my friends was a physio with Parramatta from 2009 and said Haynes was always up himself compared to some other players

My mates daughter was also a physio at Parramatta, not sure what years. She said exactly the same thing. If he didn't like her treatment plan he'd say "Jarryd Hayne doesn't do that". Always find people who refer to themselves in the third person as very weird.

I know that's what I heard lol