OFFICIAL Jock Madden #244

I would not get too excited - he killed a few plays last night by going in the wrong direction.

But his kicking game alone should see him ahead of Brooks.

They are playing at about the same level. He ran it when he shouldn't have and put in a dud kick or two. Brooks does that every week as well. I can't split their performances at the moment.

I'd be inclined to move Brooks though. I just think he has proven he isn't the right guy to be the focal point of our attack and maybe be can play a different role. He has a lot of skills. He just isn't the most creative or clutch type player and it's not working.
 
His kicking game is already better than Brooks it could be argued. Was so good to see one of our halves kick from 40 to 50 out and get it to sit in the in goal. Can’t remember when we last had that. Plus he’s eager and wants the ball and attacks the line. He plays direct and engages the defence

He has been good. His defense has also been good. His kicking game appears to be more complete than Brooks. He has a better long and short kicking game. Brooks does a better attacking kick to Ken M's wing. Maybe Madden just needs to work on that kick more in practice.

He bombed some chances last night though. Same as Brooks. Our halves aren't performing but our hooker and fullback have been worse. Our middle forwards have too many passengers as well.

We have to keep Madden though. He is a rookie and he is performing well.
 
We don't need to keep Brooks. We have plenty of options in the halves. We should be keeping Madden.
I know this sounds harsh, but so far Madden has only shown he knows how to lose a game not win one. He needs time, particularly now to see if he has it in him to balance the ledger. Brooks will cost us too much to move on, so our best option is counseling to get him to enjoy his footy. They’ve started relieving him of some responsibilities, his halves partners are doing more kicking etc. surely he must realise that if his form drops off his price tag and attraction from other clubs will also diminish.
 
I feel like we're more of an attacking threat with Jock having ball in hand. Pass timing,deft kicking...

Brooks I expect pedestrian and a fizzled attacking raid. It's a shame,because I think he's
better elsewhere.

I'd like to see Madden,Douehi and Hastings given a good run without brooks.
 
Apart from his kicking game please tell me what else he done other than give the Titans the game . Please all he did was pass the bloody ball , didn’t see him make any breaks or put a player throw a hole , the only reason he is getting wraps , is to put shit on brooks .
 
Brooks actually looked okay at 9 when Peachy was in the bin....good service and I think he put a kick in too
Mentioned it elsewhere a few weeks ago that we missed a perfect opportunity to give Brooks 40 minutes at #9 during the trials to see how he would go.
 
Im going to say this once more,Madden has always been considered a ressie fringe fger,most have written him off,BUT,under Madge he has started to play really well and
ALWAYS GIVES 100% AND ALWAYS PLAYS TO THE BEST OF HIS ABILITY.....
Credit to him for sticking to the task even knowing he is always behind Brooks...
 
Apart from his kicking game please tell me what else he done other than give the Titans the game . Please all he did was pass the bloody ball , didn’t see him make any breaks or put a player throw a hole , the only reason he is getting wraps , is to put shit on brooks .
I think your wrong BP,pay closer attention to how he works,he does what he has to do,when he played alongside Hastings in the trial after Brooks came off the team did very well and Madden looked good...as far as putting shit on Brooks,he probably deserves it,if he hadnt given that penalty away after head high tackling Thompson,then the pressure wouldnt have been on the team let alone the blame on Jock ...
 
I hope Madge puts Hastings at 13 on his return, leaving Brooks and Madden in the halves. If Hastings wants to get his hands on the ball he can still do that which will push our halves out another pass off the ruck.
If Madden is playing for a contract, at least give him that opportunity.
I hope Madge puts Hastings at 7 and Madden at 6. Based on this season's performances of the 3 players. That's what form justifies. Douehi is then at Centre instead of Gildart or FB instead of Laurie
 
Let's all hope our club has or is re-signing him. It would not be a good look for him to follow Tuilagi out the front door.
I think when AD is back and more troops arrive Brooks may move to Newy and the Madden I'm sure won't be going anywhere
 
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we have Brooks for next year and Madden unsigned. I think club will let Madden go and stick with Brooks to accompany Hastings and douhie along with Api and Papali in 2023
Interesting take, or let brooks go keep madden as a backup to Hastings as half and AD ⅝.
I don't think we need 4 play makers out there. You need options, one either side of ruck, some speedsters, workaholics and some big boppers.
 
Apart from his kicking game please tell me what else he done other than give the Titans the game . Please all he did was pass the bloody ball , didn’t see him make any breaks or put a player throw a hole , the only reason he is getting wraps , is to put shit on brooks .
Madden ran for more metres, missed less tackles and made less errors than Brooks last night. He also gained repeat sets from short kicks .

The week prior he ran for over 100m and assisted both Tigers tries. In 2 games he has double the try assists of Brooks in 4 games.

His performances have been superior than that of our highest paid player and most experienced half.
 
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