Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion

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@tiga4eva said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101302) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101294) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1100877) said:
I really don't understand the moaning about the dropping of Matterson. We got nothing for him, etc etc. Yes we did get something for him. Team harmony.
If you've never worked in a team you might not get that. It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that the current WT squad wanted nothing to do with Matterson. Wise decision to show him the door. He was too good for us.
Bye


Twal and Aloai are his best mates.

Can someone say 'exactly' who fell out with Matterson just so we can clear it up?

Because it def was not them.

So, who was it?

Not many fell out with him. It became untenable when Matterson was about to play the Mental Health card. He believed that his career was going to be shortened by playing under Madge because Madge expects players to train and play with niggles.

From memory, youre mates with one of the current WT players?
 
@tiga4eva said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101302) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101294) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1100877) said:
I really don't understand the moaning about the dropping of Matterson. We got nothing for him, etc etc. Yes we did get something for him. Team harmony.
If you've never worked in a team you might not get that. It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that the current WT squad wanted nothing to do with Matterson. Wise decision to show him the door. He was too good for us.
Bye


Twal and Aloai are his best mates.

Can someone say 'exactly' who fell out with Matterson just so we can clear it up?

Because it def was not them.

So, who was it?

Not many fell out with him. It became untenable when Matterson was about to play the Mental Health card. He believed that his career was going to be shortened by playing under Madge because Madge expects players to train and play with niggles.


And that, again, is the American model, which all teh agents are copying. If anyone follows the NFL they would know players like L Bell and co have sat out entire seasons as they felt the teams style would lessen their careers.

If players feel Madge's style will cost them a few years of playing time, then we may well struggle to get anyone decent. My main issue with Matterson is that we had to get something back. 'Team harmony' does not constitute a win. Storm, Titans both handling Arrow and JAC much better / want players in return.
 
@WT2K said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101306) said:
@tiga4eva said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101302) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101294) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1100877) said:
I really don't understand the moaning about the dropping of Matterson. We got nothing for him, etc etc. Yes we did get something for him. Team harmony.
If you've never worked in a team you might not get that. It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that the current WT squad wanted nothing to do with Matterson. Wise decision to show him the door. He was too good for us.
Bye


Twal and Aloai are his best mates.

Can someone say 'exactly' who fell out with Matterson just so we can clear it up?

Because it def was not them.

So, who was it?

Not many fell out with him. It became untenable when Matterson was about to play the Mental Health card. He believed that his career was going to be shortened by playing under Madge because Madge expects players to train and play with niggles.

From memory, youre mates with one of the current WT players?

Yeah I am
 
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101292) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101291) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101286) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool


No thanks nofo is the heart and sole of the club....I’d rather come 9th with nof then 7th with the fox...it’s called ethics....our time will come we really have only changed things around since 2018 imo board and club wise

I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.


Nofo bleeds west’s tigers...and you want him out for a mere 7th or 8th place ...not worth imo...don’t get me wrong I’d love JAC but not at the price of nofo just pay the damn fee

if it means getting JAC they can shoot nofo into outer space for all i care.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101294) said:
@NT_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1100877) said:
I really don't understand the moaning about the dropping of Matterson. We got nothing for him, etc etc. Yes we did get something for him. Team harmony.
If you've never worked in a team you might not get that. It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that the current WT squad wanted nothing to do with Matterson. Wise decision to show him the door. He was too good for us.
Bye


Twal and Aloai are his best mates.

Can someone say 'exactly' who fell out with Matterson just so we can clear it up?

Because it def was not them.

So, who was it?
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A couple of posts from the Matterson thread.matchball 29 Oct 2019, 14:42

@cqtiger said in Matterson unhappy at Tigers? said:
Well if it’s true about our players savaging him when he turned up at a social event then he can’t stay. Period.
He showed some thick skin to show up.
If I did what he did, I wouldn’t show my face out of embarrassment.
Imagine showing your face at work after disparaging the company in the media.
It leads me to believe Matterson isn’t really with what’s going on or had little input in it.
He is being led by the ugly Orr’s

THE_POM 1 Nov 2019, 07:02
Matterson release is purely business, players didn’t want him there & we didn’t want to pay a dollar more for him. If a deal was done prior to today it would of been, but he was always going to be released before the new NRL financial year started. We no longer contribute any $$ towards Matterson.
In relation to Lomax appears Dragons have put their foot down for 2020…but don’t rule out 2021.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101235) said:
@gallagher said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101233) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool

I'd love that

As would I. Couldn't imagine Bellamy being remotely interested in it though.

No way he would be and I don’t think Nofo would ever leave us - he loves the club too much. Momorivski might be a better choice, but Bellamy would probably want Talau and personally I would like to lose either of them.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101314) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101292) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101291) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101286) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool


No thanks nofo is the heart and sole of the club....I’d rather come 9th with nof then 7th with the fox...it’s called ethics....our time will come we really have only changed things around since 2018 imo board and club wise

I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.


Nofo bleeds west’s tigers...and you want him out for a mere 7th or 8th place ...not worth imo...don’t get me wrong I’d love JAC but not at the price of nofo just pay the damn fee

if it means getting JAC they can shoot nofo into outer space for all i care.


Then we are no better than the grubby cubs we set out to hate....
 
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101314) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101292) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101291) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101286) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool


No thanks nofo is the heart and sole of the club....I’d rather come 9th with nof then 7th with the fox...it’s called ethics....our time will come we really have only changed things around since 2018 imo board and club wise

I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.


Nofo bleeds west’s tigers...and you want him out for a mere 7th or 8th place ...not worth imo...don’t get me wrong I’d love JAC but not at the price of nofo just pay the damn fee

if it means getting JAC they can shoot nofo into outer space for all i care.


Then we are no better than the grubby cubs we set out to hate....

The ones that beat us every year? I don't care about anything other than winning.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101309) said:
Storm, Titans both handling Arrow and JAC much better / want players in return.

I don't think this is necessarily true.

Just look at Roosters and Latrell - the most successful and powerful team in the recent years, but they didn't get anything their way with Latrell, not even the ultimate release.

To say Storm and Titans are handling it better... based on what? Both are paying players who don't want to be there any more. By all reports JAC and Arrow are "professional enough" to see out whatever remaining time they have with their club, but that's based on now, the preseason, not end of the regular season when we see how they actually play.

It may turn out that Arrow's form goes to crap and Titans are paying a bloke big money who wants to be somewhere else.

Storm may not end up getting anyone swapped for JAC, and whilst they wait, they don't have JAC's contract money to spend. Because he's definitely going, they'll need to spend it on a new winger at some point.
 
i dont care if Nofo is mother theresa if it gives us an ave ue to upgrade then see ya son.
we have had him for years and defensively letting in tries he is on reasonable coin and might be our only chance
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101328) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101314) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101292) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101291) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101286) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool


No thanks nofo is the heart and sole of the club....I’d rather come 9th with nof then 7th with the fox...it’s called ethics....our time will come we really have only changed things around since 2018 imo board and club wise

I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.


Nofo bleeds west’s tigers...and you want him out for a mere 7th or 8th place ...not worth imo...don’t get me wrong I’d love JAC but not at the price of nofo just pay the damn fee

if it means getting JAC they can shoot nofo into outer space for all i care.


Then we are no better than the grubby cubs we set out to hate....

The ones that beat us every year? I don't care about anything other than winning.


Well then you are lost...that is not what it means to be a tiger...we look after our own win or loose...no one will ever want to join us if we are seen to be treating tigers wrongfully...oh wait that already happened rip benji and Farah...that didn’t turn out so well...if you still wish to trade in one of our own for some fast new kid on the block I wish to never here any complaints about other clubs eg. Oh the roosters n eels just buy their way to a comp and dont even look after their juniors why? Because we will be no different to those scum
 
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101351) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101328) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101314) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101292) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101291) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101286) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool


No thanks nofo is the heart and sole of the club....I’d rather come 9th with nof then 7th with the fox...it’s called ethics....our time will come we really have only changed things around since 2018 imo board and club wise

I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.


Nofo bleeds west’s tigers...and you want him out for a mere 7th or 8th place ...not worth imo...don’t get me wrong I’d love JAC but not at the price of nofo just pay the damn fee

if it means getting JAC they can shoot nofo into outer space for all i care.


Then we are no better than the grubby cubs we set out to hate....

The ones that beat us every year? I don't care about anything other than winning.


Well then you are lost...that is not what it means to be a tiger...we look after our own win or loose...no one will ever want to join us if we are seen to be treating tigers wrongfully...oh wait that already happened rip benji and Farah...that didn’t turn out so well...if you still wish to trade in one of our own for some fast new kid on the block I wish to never here any complaints about other clubs eg. Oh the roosters n eels just buy their way to a comp and dont even look after their juniors why? Because we will be no different to those scum

What a load of rubbish. We're not some brotherhood, we're a bloody NRL team. I support the club with my time and money to see them win. I couldn't give a flaming turd about anything else.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101354) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101351) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101328) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101326) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101314) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101292) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101291) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101286) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool


No thanks nofo is the heart and sole of the club....I’d rather come 9th with nof then 7th with the fox...it’s called ethics....our time will come we really have only changed things around since 2018 imo board and club wise

I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.


Nofo bleeds west’s tigers...and you want him out for a mere 7th or 8th place ...not worth imo...don’t get me wrong I’d love JAC but not at the price of nofo just pay the damn fee

if it means getting JAC they can shoot nofo into outer space for all i care.


Then we are no better than the grubby cubs we set out to hate....

The ones that beat us every year? I don't care about anything other than winning.


Well then you are lost...that is not what it means to be a tiger...we look after our own win or loose...no one will ever want to join us if we are seen to be treating tigers wrongfully...oh wait that already happened rip benji and Farah...that didn’t turn out so well...if you still wish to trade in one of our own for some fast new kid on the block I wish to never here any complaints about other clubs eg. Oh the roosters n eels just buy their way to a comp and dont even look after their juniors why? Because we will be no different to those scum

What a load of rubbish. We're not some brotherhood, we're a bloody NRL team. I support the club with my time and money to see them win. I couldn't give a flaming turd about anything else.

Avo, why do that mate? If they want to believe that we have an altruistic view and is why we keep losing and not signing marquee players, then they can imo.
I’ve gotta hand it to Madge! He’s knocking on doors all over the country, even talking to players who want to stay put.
I love the guy! Best thing since Tim Sheens.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101314) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101292) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101291) said:
@WeststigsRdaBest said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101286) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion](/post/1101230) said:
that player swap is Nofo for JAC he is all we have as a bargaining tool


No thanks nofo is the heart and sole of the club....I’d rather come 9th with nof then 7th with the fox...it’s called ethics....our time will come we really have only changed things around since 2018 imo board and club wise

I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.


Nofo bleeds west’s tigers...and you want him out for a mere 7th or 8th place ...not worth imo...don’t get me wrong I’d love JAC but not at the price of nofo just pay the damn fee

if it means getting JAC they can shoot nofo into outer space for all i care.

Even in that much space he'd get run down.
 
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We need to throw this at JAC
 
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