Karma ...

[cktiger]

Never seen so many people hating and frothing at the mouth because some players aren't showing their loyalty to the club.
Wasn't long ago the board of the same club turned its back on the most loyal bloke we had - costing him the captaincy and a chance to play his last game in front of the fans he loved.
Oddly enough most of this forum supported the decision.
Karma' really is a [This word has been automatically removed].

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Ummm, YAY??!
Are we supposed to be happy about this 'karma'?
Pretty sure it has been made clear most supporters are disappointed with the way these 3 blokes have left moreso than the fact that they have left.
Most supporters were also disappointed with the way Farah was treated by the club at the end, even though plenty were happy that he was forced out of the club. Again, it was the process that people didn't agree with more so than the end result.
Farah did himself no favours by immediately coming out and bagging the club, coach and others within the club that he felt had it in for him when he was sent to reserve grade.
There are proper ways to go about things, usually within our club we somehow find the worst possible way to get things sorted one way or another.
The 3 gutless, honour-less mice have gone the wrong way about leaving our club, hence the vitriol and displeasure coming their way via WT supporters. It is fair enough IMO.

 

[newtiger]

Ummm, YAY??!
Are we supposed to be happy about this 'karma'?
Pretty sure it has been made clear most supporters are disappointed with the way these 3 blokes have left moreso than the fact that they have left.
Most supporters were also disappointed with the way Farah was treated by the club at the end, even though plenty were happy that he was forced out of the club. Again, it was the process that people didn't agree with more so than the end result.
Farah did himself no favours by immediately coming out and bagging the club, coach and others within the club that he felt had it in for him when he was sent to reserve grade.
There are proper ways to go about things, usually within our club we somehow find the worst possible way to get things sorted one way or another.
The 3 gutless, honour-less mice have gone the wrong way about leaving our club, hence the vitriol and displeasure coming their way via WT supporters. It is fair enough IMO.

X2

 

[newtiger]

Ummm, YAY??!
Are we supposed to be happy about this 'karma'?
Pretty sure it has been made clear most supporters are disappointed with the way these 3 blokes have left moreso than the fact that they have left.
Most supporters were also disappointed with the way Farah was treated by the club at the end, even though plenty were happy that he was forced out of the club. Again, it was the process that people didn't agree with more so than the end result.
Farah did himself no favours by immediately coming out and bagging the club, coach and others within the club that he felt had it in for him when he was sent to reserve grade.
There are proper ways to go about things, usually within our club we somehow find the worst possible way to get things sorted one way or another.
The 3 gutless, honour-less mice have gone the wrong way about leaving our club, hence the vitriol and displeasure coming their way via WT supporters. It is fair enough IMO.

X2

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

JT did the club, team, Farah, the fans and himself no favours by dropping Farah to reserves - him gone and the top players going is mostly a result of that. I would not even leave poor Mr Ballin's continued injuries out of the equation.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It's sad that there are some getting off on this, purely because of what happened to Farah. As for me, I'm feeling fine. I came to terms a while ago, around the time Taylor was sacked that they were done. Well, Tedesco anyway. Think you'll find Taylor's treatment had a bigger impact on them than Robbie's.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

2018 will mark the completion of the post Sheens revolution. The player dominated culture was so ingrained it has taken this long. Ridiculous salary cap decisions made in 2013 are only NOW working themselves out of the club. Each coach has played their role:

Potter - (replaced Sheens), moved Benji along, promoted Brooks. He also tried to sign Farah to a two year deal, but was over ruled by a CEO that was dominated by Farah.
Taylor - Woods made captain, Farah moved along. 2017 the final year of salary cap issues.

There are also other players that had to moved on due to culture and/or salary cap.

With the above decisions made, Cleary was able to do one of two things:
Plan A: re-sign the juniors the club supported during the transition
Plan B: sign other players

1 of the 4 juniors has remained so Cleary now pushes ahead with Plan B.

Credit where it is due though - Farah wanted to stay and take responsibility for the team's performance going forward. Woods, Moses and Tedesco want the glory, but not the responsibility. Says a lot about their mindset as professional sportspeople.

 

[cqtiger]

Karma? Pphhhhtttt

I find it ironic that some 'fans' want to put the knife into our club at every opportunity because of a decision that they didn't agree with.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I have read that Farah's contract was extended to four years so that all the back-ending would even out over a greater number of years as not to sabotage the salary cap over a lesser number of years. This sounds more likely and sensible to me than him controlling the board. He kept honest on the field the whole way - I know how difficult it is to get hard workers so you treasure them when you find one.

 

[Aubanon]

Never seen so many people hating and frothing at the mouth because some players aren't showing their loyalty to the club.
Wasn't long ago the board of the same club turned its back on the most loyal bloke we had - costing him the captaincy and a chance to play his last game in front of the fans he loved.
Oddly enough most of this forum supported the decision.
Karma' really is a [automatically edited].

This aint Karma open your eyes.

This is Isaac Moses propaganda at work and you've been sucked into it.

- Players wanna move on
- Manager leverages staying v going to maximise value
- Manager feeds DT continuous crap about mismanagment at board (Current board has only been in since May last yr) as an excuse for these mercenaries

The rest of the plan from Isaac was
- Fans vent againts club
- Players move on reputation in tack.

Im not buying it. The weststigers are not the only club to force a club legend out the door.

Ill give the club and current board credit for;
- resolving ownership issues
- repairing the salary cap issues
- Recruiting a high profile coach
- improving benchmarks eg Sponsorship & Memberships

I dont see anywhere near the outrage against parra who have had a previous CEO charged wirh fraud or a board that was completely sacked. Or the fact that Parra doesnt have a major sponsor. Or how about the worriors who have both halves of contract or the knights/titans being run by thw NRL.

Where is the outrage against the NRL who have allowed this salary cap farce remain un resolved for so long.

Yet we are thw only basket case - please…..

 

[TJ21]

Never seen so many people hating and frothing at the mouth because some players aren't showing their loyalty to the club.
Wasn't long ago the board of the same club turned its back on the most loyal bloke we had - costing him the captaincy and a chance to play his last game in front of the fans he loved.
Oddly enough most of this forum supported the decision.
Karma' really is a [automatically edited].

This aint Karma open your eyes.

This is Isaac Mo$es propaganda at work and you've been sucked into it.

- Players wanna move on
- Manager leverages staying v going to maximise value
- Manager feeds DT continuous crap about mismanagment at board (Current board has only been in since May last yr) as an excuse for these mercenaries

The rest of the plan from Isaac was
- Fans vent againts club
- Players move on reputation in tack.

Im not buying it. The weststigers are not the only club to force a club legend out the door.

Ill give the club and current board credit for;
- resolving ownership issues
- repairing the salary cap issues
- Recruiting a high profile coach
- improving benchmarks eg Sponsorship & Memberships

I dont see anywhere near the outrage against parra who have had a previous CEO charged wirh fraud or a board that was completely sacked. Or the fact that Parra doesnt have a major sponsor. Or how about the worriors who have both halves of contract or the knights/titans being run by thw NRL.

Where is the outrage against the NRL who have allowed this salary cap farce remain un resolved for so long.

Yet we are thw only basket case - please…..

x2

 

[Gazman]

Great post

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

Cant believe people buying into the Hooper and Buzz propaganda.

They both hate the club and are very biased in their stories, do yourselves a favor and only read it for a laugh.

 

[matchball]

2018 will mark the completion of the post Sheens revolution. The player dominated culture was so ingrained it has taken this long. Ridiculous salary cap decisions made in 2013 are only NOW working themselves out of the club. Each coach has played their role:

Potter - (replaced Sheens), moved Benji along, promoted Brooks. He also tried to sign Farah to a two year deal, but was over ruled by a CEO that was dominated by Farah.
Taylor - Woods made captain, Farah moved along. 2017 the final year of salary cap issues.

There are also other players that had to moved on due to culture and/or salary cap.

With the above decisions made, Cleary was able to do one of two things:
Plan A: re-sign the juniors the club supported during the transition
Plan B: sign other players

1 of the 4 juniors has remained so Cleary now pushes ahead with Plan B.

Credit where it is due though - Farah wanted to stay and take responsibility for the team's performance going forward. Woods, Moses and Tedesco want the glory, but not the responsibility. Says a lot about their mindset as professional sportspeople.

Not entirely true.
Chris Lawrence is a Sheens gift that will keep on giving until the end of 2018.
We aren't out of the Sheens/Humph era yet.

 

[Aceshigh]

The thing that annoys me the most is Woods as captain of the club seems quick to jump ship , this from a supposed leader of men .Not the kind of bloke you would want to be in the trenches with.Must be stripped of the captaincy immediately.
I would also like to see these three playing at Henson park at 9-00 am Saturday mornings from here on in .

 

[GNR4LIFE]

2018 will mark the completion of the post Sheens revolution. The player dominated culture was so ingrained it has taken this long. Ridiculous salary cap decisions made in 2013 are only NOW working themselves out of the club. Each coach has played their role:

Potter - (replaced Sheens), moved Benji along, promoted Brooks. He also tried to sign Farah to a two year deal, but was over ruled by a CEO that was dominated by Farah.
Taylor - Woods made captain, Farah moved along. 2017 the final year of salary cap issues.

There are also other players that had to moved on due to culture and/or salary cap.

With the above decisions made, Cleary was able to do one of two things:
Plan A: re-sign the juniors the club supported during the transition
Plan B: sign other players

1 of the 4 juniors has remained so Cleary now pushes ahead with Plan B.

Credit where it is due though - Farah wanted to stay and take responsibility for the team's performance going forward. Woods, Moses and Tedesco want the glory, but not the responsibility. Says a lot about their mindset as professional sportspeople.

Not entirely true.
Chris Lawrence is a Sheens gift that will keep on giving until the end of 2018.
We aren't out of the Sheens/Humph era yet.

Wrong. 2019 :smiley:

 

[matchball]

2018 will mark the completion of the post Sheens revolution. The player dominated culture was so ingrained it has taken this long. Ridiculous salary cap decisions made in 2013 are only NOW working themselves out of the club. Each coach has played their role:

Potter - (replaced Sheens), moved Benji along, promoted Brooks. He also tried to sign Farah to a two year deal, but was over ruled by a CEO that was dominated by Farah.
Taylor - Woods made captain, Farah moved along. 2017 the final year of salary cap issues.

There are also other players that had to moved on due to culture and/or salary cap.

With the above decisions made, Cleary was able to do one of two things:
Plan A: re-sign the juniors the club supported during the transition
Plan B: sign other players

1 of the 4 juniors has remained so Cleary now pushes ahead with Plan B.

Credit where it is due though - Farah wanted to stay and take responsibility for the team's performance going forward. Woods, Moses and Tedesco want the glory, but not the responsibility. Says a lot about their mindset as professional sportspeople.

Not entirely true.
Chris Lawrence is a Sheens gift that will keep on giving until the end of 2018.
We aren't out of the Sheens/Humph era yet.

Wrong. 2019 :smiley:

That can't be true. 2019????
Surely Cleary will Clear him out end of this year. We can't carry lolly legs any further.

 

[Geo]

2018 will mark the completion of the post Sheens revolution. The player dominated culture was so ingrained it has taken this long. Ridiculous salary cap decisions made in 2013 are only NOW working themselves out of the club. Each coach has played their role:

Potter - (replaced Sheens), moved Benji along, promoted Brooks. He also tried to sign Farah to a two year deal, but was over ruled by a CEO that was dominated by Farah.
Taylor - Woods made captain, Farah moved along. 2017 the final year of salary cap issues.

There are also other players that had to moved on due to culture and/or salary cap.

With the above decisions made, Cleary was able to do one of two things:
Plan A: re-sign the juniors the club supported during the transition
Plan B: sign other players

1 of the 4 juniors has remained so Cleary now pushes ahead with Plan B.

Credit where it is due though - Farah wanted to stay and take responsibility for the team's performance going forward. Woods, Moses and Tedesco want the glory, but not the responsibility. Says a lot about their mindset as professional sportspeople.

Not entirely true.
Chris Lawrence is a Sheens gift that will keep on giving until the end of 2018.
We aren't out of the Sheens/Humph era yet.

Lawrence contract from that time ended this year..Was re-negotiated on a lesser amount under the 2017 Cap and extended until the end of 2019 by current administration..

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I don't see how moving Farah on solved any salary cap issues. Souths who had already busted their bank on top players and already with a good hooker must have taken Farah on for peanuts with WT paying about 90% at a guess. As well we are paying for Mr Ballin. Made out salary cap worse in my opinion.

 

[Masterton]

I don't see how moving Farah on solved any salary cap issues. Souths who had already busted their bank on top players and already with a good hooker must have taken Farah on for peanuts with WT paying about 90% at a guess. As well we are paying for Mr Ballin. Made out salary cap worse in my opinion.

I loved Farah as a player, but his sacking was his own karma for thinking he owned the club.

I was cheering for him last night, but noticed Sterlo was critical of his slow service again.