OFFICIAL Liam Fulton [Discussion]

Well it hadn't been mentioned until the first time you did the third!

Here's another article from today's Telecrap about how Fulton may soon be forced to retire:

LIAM Fulton admits his career could be cut short after a fourth concussion ruled him out of Friday night’s blockbuster against South Sydney.
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Fulton failed to train with the Wests Tigers on Tuesday, and coach Mick Potter decided to not consider him for selection after he consulted the club’s medicos.
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The popular back-rower was concussed in a tackle by Newcastle prop David Fa’alogo during Sunday’s 23-20 victory.
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Tigers’ chief executive Grant Mayer was so upset by the tackle and mindful of Fulton’s history of head knocks this season he phoned the NRL to complain about Fa’alogo.
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Fulton told The Daily Telegraph on Tuesday night he felt fine, but was not about to second-guess the experts.
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He remained hopeful of a return to the paddock in the coming weeks, but was also mindful another concussion could spell the end to his career.
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Fulton is contracted to the Tigers until the end of 2016.
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“It’s obviously crossed my mind, my wife (Stacey) is upset, and every man and his dog asks me about the head knocks,” Fulton said.
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“For me personally I’m trying not to think about it it’s not something I want to think about.
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“I had a chat with Todd Payten today and he was a bit concerned. He’s our assistant coach, but he’s also a mate, and he told me if these concussions keep happening, this could be the end. I thought to myself, `oh shit’, and it made me think twice.
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“All I can do is rest. I feel like I want to play, I feel fine when I’m at home, and it’s hard when you arrive at training and feel OK.
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“At the end of the day I have to listen to the doctors. You have to listen to them, sometimes you don’t agree with them, but we have to do what they say.”
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Fulton said the only concussion that knocked him around was the season opener against St George Illawarra, when he was stretchered off.
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“But I remember where I parked, I had this shitty spot in ‘P1’, so my memory isn’t that bad,” Fulton quipped.
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Mayer said of Fulton’s head knocks: “We’re committed to ensuring he has the best treatment possible and if he was to suffer another similar injury he may have to look at an extended period on the sideline.”
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Fulton will be missing from a Tigers’ side who are also without Aaron Woods and Robbie Farah because of Origin. Chris Lawrence, Chris Lawrence and Tim Simona also didn’t train on Tuesday, but the club expects them to start.
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Meanwhile, Tigers’ star No. 1 James Tedesco revealed he rushed his decision to join Canberra, and the phone call to coach Ricky Stuart, letting him know he would be backing out of his deal, was “very hard”.

Really he needs to bes rested for AT LEAST 2 MONTHS!! No other sport in the world would allow a player to keep playing after being concussed 4 times in 13 weeks!!!!

Most sports rest a players for 2-3 weeks after the first concussion, and if it happens again they rest him for a few months. In ice hockey if you get more than 4-5 concussions in your entire career your career is in jeopardy. This has happened in the space of 3-4 months!

The links between concussions and brain damage/illness in later life continues to be illustrated across a number of sports. You look at former league players, boxers or ice hockey players. They may have felt fine for the next 5-10 years after the injuries but as they get older it often seems to kick in and dementia and a variety of other illnesses occur with much greater frequencies.

Fulton simply cannot play for the next couple of months at a minimum!!!
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Fulton simply cannot play for the next couple of months at a minimum!!!

I agree. Liam's been my favourite for years, and I'd hate to see him forced out before his time. I'd also hate for everyone's favourite smartarse to be mentally retarded for the rest of his life. It's just not worth it.

Instead of bitching to the league about one particular hit, the Tigers would better off asking for cap relief to find a replacement. I don't think we could, in good faith, select Liam Fulton again this year.
 
Tweet from Lara Pitt:

"Mick Potter says Liam Fulton won't play for at least a couple of weeks,being sent for more tests. Will wait for Drs advice re long term plan"
 
I reckon if for some reason Liam does need to retire we hire him as an assistant to Kidwell

Reckon with his excellent tackling technique he could become a good defence coach , especially seeing that Kidwell probably isn't too far away from getting his own head coaching gig
 
I think the club and NRL need to really outline every possible scenario based on the current research and let him make a final decision.
If Fulton does decide to leave, he needs to be compensated fully for the remainder of his contract, either with a staffing position within the WT or some other payment method. If he does retire, the money that he gets SHOULD NOT be considered within our salary cap.

My hope is that he will continue to receive his salary for the remainder of the 2-1/2 years in some sort coaching role with Kidwell, without this coming from our salary cap. This would be ideal as it would give Fulton enough experience during this time to start a new coaching/training career.
 
@hobbo2803 said:
And didn't he put one on Jason Taylor on mad Monday ?

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Yes, he punched out Taylor, earning himself an immediate release from Souths and a ticket to England for the next four years.
 
i've been worried about this with liam for a while. it not just this year either, been happening a bit too often in recent years.

hope he thinks of himself and family going forward not just about the team.
 
Wests Tigers back-rower Liam Fulton is set to sit out at least a month of NRL action as his short to medium term rugby league future is assessed following a series of concussions.

Fulton suffered his fourth concussion in just six games this season in the Tigers' round 13 win over Newcastle on Sunday.

The 29-year-old has been stood down from Friday's round 14 match against South Sydney.

He will be put through a series of tests from external medical personnel in an attempt to ascertain what could be causing the repeated concussions and when it could be safe to return to the field.

Given the focus this season on player welfare, Tigers coach Mick Potter said Fulton's wellbeing is the club's primary concern.

"He is feeling fine, he doesn't think he has any symptoms but everyone is concerned for him as we should be and we want him to be right for footy," Potter said at training on Thursday.

"Our CEO (Grant Mayer) has raised his future with me but standing him down (for the rest of the season) isn't going to come under consideration until we have talked to the experts on which is the best way forward.

"Because it is in its infancy as to how things are proceeding with head knocks, no one really knows, because there hasn't been any evidence in the past for people to say this is what we need to do.

"We will take a very conservative way of looking at things and we have to be advised by the people that know better than us.

Stand-in skipper Braith Anasta said Fulton's Tigers teammates were worried about his future.

"The whole team is concerned about Liam and how he is health-wise," Anasta said.

"We don't know what is causing it or if it is going to keep happening.

"It is a bit of an unknown at the moment and we are just supporting Liam and hoping that things do get better and he gets through this tough period.

"'Fults' is a larrikin. He plays it down a bit, he is a tough bugger too, he wants to play, he is not happy about it.

"He also knows he has a wife and a daughter at home and he has to look after them and his own welfare, so he is taking it very seriously."
 
I was saying this in another thread, but its getting to the point where he needs to do something else with his life. He might be fine now, but give him another 15-20 yrs and he could really start feeling the affects. Not just physically but mentally as well. Chris Benoit is a perfect example of that, a guy who took one too many concussions. Fulton is a long way off that, but its been proven that they can lead to psychosis and dementia.
 
Give it away Liam. Come back if you feel like playing next year and you are fit enough.
Your health is more important than anything else in the world.
 
@Xby said:
Why hasn't he been wearing headgear?

Because apparently headgear is almost useless.
As some other people have shown, the studies on the NFL players show the damage that is done with contact sports like ours, and even though they wear proper helmets, the NRL might be tougher still.

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@GNR4LIFE said:
I was saying this in another thread, but its getting to the point where he needs to do something else with his life. He might be fine now, but give him another 15-20 yrs and he could really start feeling the affects. Not just physically but mentally as well. Chris Benoit is a perfect example of that, a guy who took one too many concussions. Fulton is a long way off that, but its been proven that they can lead to psychosis and dementia.

Can't really argue with that. While Benoit is the extreme of the situation, I'm more concerned for his quality of life after he finishes in RL and affecting his ability to earn a living after he has left the game. Not to mention most kinds of brain disease/injury are not solely suffered by those who have them, but also the families of the affected people.
 
I'm only taking a stab in the dark , but the story done earlier this year where players who had retired were tested to check their brain functions were done In Melbourne

Would it be safe to assume they are doing the same tests for Liam ??
 
Today on the foxsports website they are reporting that…..

"THE Wests Tigers have made the hardline call to rule concussion victim Liam Fulton out for the rest of the season.
You won’t catch anyone at the Tigers officially confirming as much but we’ve been told after four concussions in seven weeks, the decision has been made in the best interests of Fulton’s welfare. Fulton was in Melbourne earlier this week for brain scans."
 
@Tigerdon said:
Today on the foxsports website they are reporting that…..

"THE Wests Tigers have made the hardline call to rule concussion victim Liam Fulton out for the rest of the season.
You won’t catch anyone at the Tigers officially confirming as much but we’ve been told after four concussions in seven weeks, the decision has been made in the best interests of Fulton’s welfare. Fulton was in Melbourne earlier this week for brain scans."

Same news piece is also mentioned in today's DT.
 
Good call by the club if true. It's only a game, and a guy's long term health is paramount over any short term team agenda.
 

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