OFFICIAL Liam Fulton [Discussion]

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[tigertye]

Great, underrated player. His percentage of completing the tackle is outstanding from last year and has been the same this year. Rarely misses and I believe was somewhere around 95% last season. For a bloke who punches well above his weight - he's bloody tough and will always dig in and do the 1%'ers. His ball playing and chiming in the backline or filling in at hooker goes unnoticed sometimes also. Definitely one of the Tigers form players this year. Well done Fults
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[Chris]

What some won't know is that when the media were talking up Buhrer as a bolter for origin, Tim was pushing Fults' name behind the scenes…...definitely wouldn't let anyone down in any NSW team
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[boonboon]

Tim wasn't the only one I couldnt believe they went for buhrer- they didnt need a utility but if u did then Fulton was the best option

 

[hellman]

I don't see Fulton as a utility player.

He is a starter who needs a good pack of forwards around him. So long as you have a good set of props and some backrowers that can help work the ball out of your end he is a real good player. He will hit it up but he gets dominated at times when working it out from our end.

He is a great player though - his running game and his defensive work rate are at the top level.

I think he should retain his spot in the team when Ellis gets back and Heighno goes to the bench.

 

[innsaneink]

What some won't know is that when the media were talking up Buhrer as a bolter for origin, Tim was pushing Fults' name behind the scenes…...definitely wouldn't let anyone down in any NSW team
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Wonder why he didnt come out publicly about it like he did with Farah, Woods & Kilo

 

[larrycorowa]

Love the guy. He was our best last year. Has gone from a fringe player to an essential part of one of the best packs in the NRL through sheer hard work and persistence. The harder you knock him the better he gets….gotta love that.

Fulton was the one reason Buhrer was in SOOI but it wasn't Liam. You would think Stuart would find a new adviser considering some of his selection blunders in recent years (7mins off the bench in SOO....wtf?, Jason King was another brainwave selection....he wasnt even in the top 5 NSW props at the time of selection). Key reason why tigers havent got a look in over the past few years...Stuart is an idiot.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yep he is playing well at the moment Actually he has been playing well since our bad patch last season

I wonder how many are ready to admit they owe Liam a big apology

Many were writing him off and wanted him gone

 

[hellman]

I wonder how many are ready to admit they owe Liam a big apology

Many were writing him off and wanted him gone

Its not that simple. I could always see his worth however we often suffered from a lack of go forward and this is the worse part of his game. Against Melbourne he made 53 metres in attack. Those metres are simply not good enough if your pack is struggling with go forward.

At the moment we have a great set of props and two wingers (especially Utai) who get us going forward from the start of our sets. This means that Fulton's weakness is not really a big issue and his positives are pretty obvious.

 

[alexaki]

Liam Fulton in career best form all of 2012…. Glad he's on our team... As a matter of fact our forwards last 6 weeks have been awesome... Can't wait for Ellis to return!
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[happy_tiger]

I wonder how many are ready to admit they owe Liam a big apology

Many were writing him off and wanted him gone

Its not that simple. I could always see his worth however we often suffered from a lack of go forward and this is the worse part of his game. Against Melbourne he made 53 metres in attack. Those metres are simply not good enough if your pack is struggling with go forward.

At the moment we have a great set of props and two wingers (especially Utai) who get us going forward from the start of our sets. This means that Fulton's weakness is not really a big issue and his positives are pretty obvious.

Hellman the bloke makes 40 + plus tackles each week You need a player like that at every club We have a heap of other blokes to make the big yards

That isn't his go . You need a mixture of players to make a great side He is one of them

 

[derailed]

Problem is we have a lot of players not making big metres and leaving it all up to woods and sauce

Fulton, Heighington, Blair are all making small metres and little impact in attack.

We really need Ellis back to add some strach to our back row.

Fulton is playing well and we need his defence but someone is going to miss out when everyone is on deck and unfortunately Fultons name is in that mix along with Rhino and Bell for mine.

 

[innsaneink]

**Problem is we have a lot of players not making big metres and leaving it all up to woods and sauce**
Fulton, Heighington, Blair are all making small metres and little impact in attack.

We really need Ellis back to add some strach to our back row.

Fulton is playing well and we need his defence but someone is going to miss out when everyone is on deck and unfortunately Fultons name is in that mix along with Rhino and Bell for mine.

A more even use of the bench would help this supposed problem.
But I dont think its a problem.
All players have their specific roles

 

[MacDougall]

Fulton>Buhrer by a mile.

 

[Lisa]

Fulton's work rate has always been solid and for almost half the salary as some…he is good value!

 

[hellman]

Hellman the bloke makes 40 + plus tackles each week You need a player like that at every club We have a heap of other blokes to make the big yards

That isn't his go. You need a mixture of players to make a great side He is one of them

I don't know if you have read my other posts regarding Fulton. I really like him as a player. It is just that he needs to be carried in one of the key components of being an NRL forward and that is getting good go forward.

If you have a team that is struggling getting out of their own half he isn't the player you need. If you need to tighten up defensively or make a bust out wide he is a great option.

 

[citizen_cub]

Problem is we have a lot of players not making big metres and leaving it all up to woods and sauce

Fulton, Heighington, Blair are all making small metres and little impact in attack.

We really need Ellis back to add some strach to our back row.

Fulton is playing well and we need his defence but someone is going to miss out when everyone is on deck and unfortunately Fultons name is in that mix along with Rhino and Bell for mine.

Yeah, I've had a look at the metre counts of late and Fulton's name hasn't been up there which has suprised me. He's certainly looked better than what the stats may suggest.

I don't know what on earth Sheens has instructed Blair to do. At Melbourne, he built his reputation on promoting second phase play, that's yet to be seen thus far this year.

Heighington does promote second phase play, but it's not performed at a speed which can trouble opposition defence lines. How Sheens rates him ahead of Bell, defies logic.

 

[Chris]

What some won't know is that when the media were talking up Buhrer as a bolter for origin, Tim was pushing Fults' name behind the scenes…...definitely wouldn't let anyone down in any NSW team
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Wonder why he didnt come out publicly about it like he did with Farah, Woods & Kilo

You try and work out why Tim does what he does 😕

 

[redemption]

Problem is we have a lot of players not making big metres and leaving it all up to woods and sauce

Fulton, Heighington, Blair are all making small metres and little impact in attack.

We really need Ellis back to add some strach to our back row.

Fulton is playing well and we need his defence but someone is going to miss out when everyone is on deck and unfortunately Fultons name is in that mix along with Rhino and Bell for mine.

Yeah, I've had a look at the metre counts of late and Fulton's name hasn't been up there which has suprised me. He's certainly looked better than what the stats may suggest.

I don't know what on earth Sheens has instructed Blair to do. At Melbourne, he built his reputation on promoting second phase play, that's yet to be seen thus far this year.
**Heighington does promote second phase play, but it's not performed at a speed which can trouble opposition defence lines. How Sheens rates him ahead of Bell, defies logic.**

Look at their comparative stats genius!!

Bell NEVER offloads or promotes the ball - and averages 25-30m (even when he's played long minutes)!!

Heighno supports the ball carrier, has more offloads than anyone else on average, makes an average 100m+ per game despite doing alot of the s**t work when the props and wingers are not there, and he makes an average of 25+ tackles per game.

No wonder Sterlo rates him - and yet an apparent mega-brain like yourself doesn't!!

On that note - please provide the alleged "logic" you refer to above by way of rebuttal.

 

[redemption]

Problem is we have a lot of players not making big metres and leaving it all up to woods and sauce

Fulton, Heighington, Blair are all making small metres and little impact in attack.

We really need Ellis back to add some strach to our back row.

Fulton is playing well and we need his defence but someone is going to miss out when everyone is on deck and unfortunately Fultons name is in that mix along with Rhino and Bell for mine.

Yeah, I've had a look at the metre counts of late and Fulton's name hasn't been up there which has suprised me. He's certainly looked better than what the stats may suggest.

I don't know what on earth Sheens has instructed Blair to do. At Melbourne, he built his reputation on promoting second phase play, that's yet to be seen thus far this year.
**Heighington does promote second phase play, but it's not performed at a speed which can trouble opposition defence lines. How Sheens rates him ahead of Bell, defies logic.**

Look at their comparative stats genius!!

Bell NEVER offloads or promotes the ball - and averages 25-30m (even when he's played long minutes)!!

Heighno supports the ball carrier, has more offloads than anyone else on average, makes an average 100m+ per game despite doing alot of the s**t work when the props and wingers are not there, and he makes an average of 25+ tackles per game.

No wonder Sterlo rates him - and yet an apparent mega-brain like yourself doesn't!!

On that note - please provide the alleged "logic" you refer to above by way of rebuttal.