**live game feed** vs the Eels

[tony soprano]

There's too many chinks in the armour to solely lay blame or all focus on Brooks.

Though I believe a Storm team including C Smith reigned supreme, Roosters are now unmatched(in the NRL) at breaking down their opponents with Penrith just oozing xfactor and skill. While I don't think Eels or Raiders are as talented or methodical, they do however know how to pick apart teams and grind out wins.
Mostly, these teams have had years to get to where they are and with more time - or other advancements such as recruitment - are only continuing to improve.
So it's silly to expect this level of performance from the team or our playermakers at present, as it's more a matter of how those teams are capable of working as a solid unit when ours still aren't quite working as cohesively as we'd like.
I understand some frustrations but I believe other teams are simply exposing and taking advantage of our glaring weaknesses which should've been addressed Rd 1, 2 or 3.
Over the past two weeks I've seen something from Brooks I haven't seen in his career once and that is to pick himself up and carry on. There's obviously game management issues but his play making isn't as poor as some are stating. It's the whole team's ability to compete effectively which should be prominently assessed. Both halves are struggling at times but they've shown persistence and are only going to get better.

Well said Lauren - finally someone with a decent summation, with no axe to grind and a little objectivity and positivity.

Pleasure to read.

Brooks just needs to focus on his half back duties for kicking and inject his strengths where he can Which been doing last couple of weeks

 

[jirskyr]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

**Perception is never reality**, what nonsense. Just say "I think Brooks is below average". Sure, fine, you think it.


You missed who I was replying to.... Sorry it went over your head.

Sorry, yes, I don't understand if there was more to it.

 

[happy_tiger]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

Nope , he’s an above average halfback , and you all want him to be elite . That’s literally it . He’s supposed to catch the ball , pass the ball , then catch it again ,then magically make that player go through a gap ,or not drop the ball , plus it’s his fault if the centre misses a tackle on the other side of the field , also his fault if he passes to his 6 , who dies with the ball instead of kicking.
Also he has to have every kick be a 40/20, or a repeat set , or cause an error .
It’s ridiculous , and kind of sad .

He is inconsistent, that makes him below average.

Don't you have to be good occasionally to be inconsistent .....

 

[Magpieger]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

Nope , he’s an above average halfback , and you all want him to be elite . That’s literally it . He’s supposed to catch the ball , pass the ball , then catch it again ,then magically make that player go through a gap ,or not drop the ball , plus it’s his fault if the centre misses a tackle on the other side of the field , also his fault if he passes to his 6 , who dies with the ball instead of kicking.
Also he has to have every kick be a 40/20, or a repeat set , or cause an error .
It’s ridiculous , and kind of sad .

He is inconsistent, that makes him below average.

Don't you have to be good occasionally to be inconsistent .....

That cuts like a hot knife.?

 

[TigerBlood93]

Still can’t believe the charge down that went out was parramatta’s ball! We even checked it and it came back unsuccessful, then parra go on to score that gutho try

 

[twentyforty]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

Nope , he’s an above average halfback , and you all want him to be elite . That’s literally it . He’s supposed to catch the ball , pass the ball , then catch it again ,then magically make that player go through a gap ,or not drop the ball , plus it’s his fault if the centre misses a tackle on the other side of the field , also his fault if he passes to his 6 , who dies with the ball instead of kicking.
Also he has to have every kick be a 40/20, or a repeat set , or cause an error .
It’s ridiculous , and kind of sad .

He is inconsistent, that makes him below average.

No ,that makes him inconsistent . And I’ll even argue that’s not true either . Look the guys been good the last couple of weeks , and if you check the stats , that will back me up.
I’ll say one final thing , Show me a better half , cause it isn’t Hastings and Madden is a younger less good brooks .
Which is my point all along .
Anyways I’m done . You can all go back to your hate bubble .

It’s the context of the stats that count mate ...
His failure to get repeat sets and kicks out on the full ( Raiders game) outweigh the one or two try assists he gets once in a blue moon ..
The pack has no issues making it down the field it’s what happens when we get there .

I think the role of the ‘pack’ is sometimes underestimated, I’ve always found that your forwards are there to win the battle, which involves immense effort, intimidation and ultimately tiring out the opposition. It’s something tangible you can feel when you’re on the field. As a back, when you’re winning that battle everything seems easier. Not sure how many times Brooksy gets that feeling in games.

Very good point. I’ve been thinking about something Mitchell Moses said in his post game interview. He stopped short of taking credit for his win in the halfback battle, almost conceding that his forwards gave him opportunities that didn’t exist for his mate. I may be reading too much into Moses’ moment of humility, but it had me wondering..does he think Brooks is a better half??

 

[Russell]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

Nope , he’s an above average halfback , and you all want him to be elite . That’s literally it . He’s supposed to catch the ball , pass the ball , then catch it again ,then magically make that player go through a gap ,or not drop the ball , plus it’s his fault if the centre misses a tackle on the other side of the field , also his fault if he passes to his 6 , who dies with the ball instead of kicking.
Also he has to have every kick be a 40/20, or a repeat set , or cause an error .
It’s ridiculous , and kind of sad .

He is inconsistent, that makes him below average.

No ,that makes him inconsistent . And I’ll even argue that’s not true either . Look the guys been good the last couple of weeks , and if you check the stats , that will back me up.
I’ll say one final thing , Show me a better half , cause it isn’t Hastings and Madden is a younger less good brooks .
Which is my point all along .
Anyways I’m done . You can all go back to your hate bubble .

It’s the context of the stats that count mate ...
His failure to get repeat sets and kicks out on the full ( Raiders game) outweigh the one or two try assists he gets once in a blue moon ..
The pack has no issues making it down the field it’s what happens when we get there .

I think the role of the ‘pack’ is sometimes underestimated, I’ve always found that your forwards are there to win the battle, which involves immense effort, intimidation and ultimately tiring out the opposition. It’s something tangible you can feel when you’re on the field. As a back, when you’re winning that battle everything seems easier. Not sure how many times Brooksy gets that feeling in games.

Very good point. I’ve been thinking about something Mitchell Moses said in his post game interview. He stopped short of taking credit for his win in the halfback battle, almost conceding that his forwards gave him opportunities that didn’t exist for his mate. I may be reading too much into Moses’ moment of humility, but it had me wondering..does he think Brooks is a better half??

Maybe he is a better half, maybe he is not.

Can guarantee Brooks is a better human being,

Lowest of the low is to be a "Tanker"

 

[kratos]

Brooks is a BETTER HALF. He is never had a pack dominate week in week out to play off the back off. Look at Thurston's last year when his pack wasn't preforming....

 

[happy_tiger]

Brooks is a BETTER HALF. He is never had a pack dominate week in week out to play off the back off. Look at Thurston's last year when his pack wasn't preforming....

Lets see how Brooks is going at 35 .......

 

[Geo]

Brooks is a BETTER HALF. He is never had a pack dominate week in week out to play off the back off. Look at Thurston's last year when his pack wasn't preforming....

Lets see how Brooks is going at 35 .......

That will slaughter Cammy's NRL game record..

 

[tig_prmz]

Has Graham Annesley come out and said anything about the M Moses shephard and the dive over the sideline yet?

 

[jadtiger]

Has Graham Annesley come out and said anything about the M Moses shephard and the dive over the sideline yet?

Of course not that would be implied criticism of his troops.I will apologise if he has

 

[Tigerdave]

Has Graham Annesley come out and said anything about the M Moses shephard and the dive over the sideline yet?

I don't believe so, but they brought it up on NRL 360, the refs got it wrong, we were dudded. It wasn't just 1 shepherd either, he did it twice in the same movement

 

[twentyforty]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

Nope , he’s an above average halfback , and you all want him to be elite . That’s literally it . He’s supposed to catch the ball , pass the ball , then catch it again ,then magically make that player go through a gap ,or not drop the ball , plus it’s his fault if the centre misses a tackle on the other side of the field , also his fault if he passes to his 6 , who dies with the ball instead of kicking.
Also he has to have every kick be a 40/20, or a repeat set , or cause an error .
It’s ridiculous , and kind of sad .

He is inconsistent, that makes him below average.

No ,that makes him inconsistent . And I’ll even argue that’s not true either . Look the guys been good the last couple of weeks , and if you check the stats , that will back me up.
I’ll say one final thing , Show me a better half , cause it isn’t Hastings and Madden is a younger less good brooks .
Which is my point all along .
Anyways I’m done . You can all go back to your hate bubble .

It’s the context of the stats that count mate ...
His failure to get repeat sets and kicks out on the full ( Raiders game) outweigh the one or two try assists he gets once in a blue moon ..
The pack has no issues making it down the field it’s what happens when we get there .

I think the role of the ‘pack’ is sometimes underestimated, I’ve always found that your forwards are there to win the battle, which involves immense effort, intimidation and ultimately tiring out the opposition. It’s something tangible you can feel when you’re on the field. As a back, when you’re winning that battle everything seems easier. Not sure how many times Brooksy gets that feeling in games.

Very good point. I’ve been thinking about something Mitchell Moses said in his post game interview. He stopped short of taking credit for his win in the halfback battle, almost conceding that his forwards gave him opportunities that didn’t exist for his mate. I may be reading too much into Moses’ moment of humility, but it had me wondering..does he think Brooks is a better half??

Maybe he is a better half, maybe he is not.

Can guarantee Brooks is a better human being,

Lowest of the low is to be a "Tanker"

I wouldn’t be too hard on the guy Russ? He’s clearly enjoying his footy and getting paid not much less than our man Brooksy.
When we had a good group of juniors coming through all they would have been dreaming of is staying together and winning a 1st grade GF just as the Panthers are hoping for. The club shattered their dreams by doing their best to break them. At least that’s what it looked like at the time.

 

[jadtiger]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

Nope , he’s an above average halfback , and you all want him to be elite . That’s literally it . He’s supposed to catch the ball , pass the ball , then catch it again ,then magically make that player go through a gap ,or not drop the ball , plus it’s his fault if the centre misses a tackle on the other side of the field , also his fault if he passes to his 6 , who dies with the ball instead of kicking.
Also he has to have every kick be a 40/20, or a repeat set , or cause an error .
It’s ridiculous , and kind of sad .

He is inconsistent, that makes him below average.

No ,that makes him inconsistent . And I’ll even argue that’s not true either . Look the guys been good the last couple of weeks , and if you check the stats , that will back me up.
I’ll say one final thing , Show me a better half , cause it isn’t Hastings and Madden is a younger less good brooks .
Which is my point all along .
Anyways I’m done . You can all go back to your hate bubble .

It’s the context of the stats that count mate ...
His failure to get repeat sets and kicks out on the full ( Raiders game) outweigh the one or two try assists he gets once in a blue moon ..
The pack has no issues making it down the field it’s what happens when we get there .

I think the role of the ‘pack’ is sometimes underestimated, I’ve always found that your forwards are there to win the battle, which involves immense effort, intimidation and ultimately tiring out the opposition. It’s something tangible you can feel when you’re on the field. As a back, when you’re winning that battle everything seems easier. Not sure how many times Brooksy gets that feeling in games.

Very good point. I’ve been thinking about something Mitchell Moses said in his post game interview. He stopped short of taking credit for his win in the halfback battle, almost conceding that his forwards gave him opportunities that didn’t exist for his mate. I may be reading too much into Moses’ moment of humility, but it had me wondering..does he think Brooks is a better half??

Maybe he is a better half, maybe he is not.

Can guarantee Brooks is a better human being,

Lowest of the low is to be a "Tanker"


I wouldn’t be too hard on the guy Russ? He’s clearly enjoying his footy and getting paid not much less than our man Brooksy.
When we had a good group of juniors coming through all they would have been dreaming of is staying together and winning a 1st grade GF just as the Panthers are hoping for. The club shattered their dreams by doing their best to break them. At least that’s what it looked like at the time.

He is on more than Brooks from what i have heard

 

[happy_tiger]

Brooks is a BETTER HALF. He is never had a pack dominate week in week out to play off the back off. Look at Thurston's last year when his pack wasn't preforming....

Lets see how Brooks is going at 35 .......

That will slaughter Cammy's NRL game record..

Yeah ...if he ever made a finals campaign ,SOO footy or Test footy

Maybe he could become one of Demps's legends of NSW Cup by then ......

 

[hobbo1]

Brooks is a BETTER HALF. He is never had a pack dominate week in week out to play off the back off. Look at Thurston's last year when his pack wasn't preforming....

Lets see how Brooks is going at 35 .......

That will slaughter Cammy's NRL game record..

Yeah and you’ll be presented with a $15k diamond ?
?

 

[851]

Stats from yesterdays game

No runs or tackles or stuff like that..?

It’s blankety blanks

You need to fill in the blanks

k


Do you also write Valentine’s Day cards in your spare time ?

We all know stats are meaningless without the context..

Back to baking cookies for Brooksie for you.

Execpt when he had 2 right..

Well it’s a definition isn’t it
He gave final pass to Stefano and to Liddle and kicked for Laurie (but to me LL’s touch goes down as the assist)
Is a catch and pass a try assist?
For stefano try it was actually Mbyes pick up and for liddle it was LL’s break and offload. So........
I’ve always found the definition of a try assist as a little iffy.....

Oh I agree but last year it was used to bag him and seems now this year by definition it's used to bag him..

He also was bagged for never supporting breaks , if my memory serves me correctly . He got try assists from basically supporting breaks .
I just don’t understand the hate . The only thing I can guess , is people thought he was the next Johns , so they bought into the hype , so now it’s brooks fault that he didn’t live up to some unrealistic expectation , that was just media hogwash to begin with .

Perception is reality, Brooks is a below average halfback.

Nope , he’s an above average halfback , and you all want him to be elite . That’s literally it . He’s supposed to catch the ball , pass the ball , then catch it again ,then magically make that player go through a gap ,or not drop the ball , plus it’s his fault if the centre misses a tackle on the other side of the field , also his fault if he passes to his 6 , who dies with the ball instead of kicking.
Also he has to have every kick be a 40/20, or a repeat set , or cause an error .
It’s ridiculous , and kind of sad .

He is inconsistent, that makes him below average.

No ,that makes him inconsistent . And I’ll even argue that’s not true either . Look the guys been good the last couple of weeks , and if you check the stats , that will back me up.
I’ll say one final thing , Show me a better half , cause it isn’t Hastings and Madden is a younger less good brooks .
Which is my point all along .
Anyways I’m done . You can all go back to your hate bubble .

You can argue all you like but that won’t make Brooks into anything than a below average half. His time is almost up and the clock is ticking. Unless there is significant improvement and soon he’ll be goneski.

Says who ?
I’ll argue the opposite . But that’s fine , as long as there’s someone better . If it’s madden that’s fine , but if you want instant success that’s even less likely .
I actually think he should go .
Because I know it will be the same as every other player who’s had success post here .
“Why didn’t we keep him, god we suck at recruitment etc”
People wanted benji gone , then Robbie , Bodene Thompson , Fifita had attitude issues , Paps was too small , Hodgson was “past it”before he left , then there were cries for why we replaced him with McKinnon .
Even the worst buy ever , Adam Blair , had people bemoaning us releasing him.

There’s systematic issues with the team . Brooks is not the issue , and it’s just scapegoating to think he is .

Brooks is a big issue with the team. You can hide behind all the excuses you like but his time is coming to an end. After 151 games it’s Improve or he’s out.

Do you know something Mike or are you guessing, I mean I am agreeing with you, 150 plus games and we still hear "give him more time" that just does my head in, no other club, even the extremely poorly run ones would not have put up with it for 8 years

 

[earl]

I don't get the Brooks hate. He was really good against the Eels. He hasn't been that bad this year.

I get that he isn't Andrew Johns but how many great halves are there in the comp ?

I do think the club should be on the lookout for good quality halves coming through the grades but we shouldn't just get rid of Brooks and replace him with a worse option.

 

[851]

I don't get the Brooks hate. He was really good against the Eels. He hasn't been that bad this year.

I get that he isn't Andrew Johns but how many great halves are there in the comp ?

I do think the club should be on the lookout for good quality halves coming through the grades but we shouldn't just get rid of Brooks and replace him with a worse option.

I don't hate him, I have tried to be patient with him, but that wears thin after 8 seasons, if we want to improve, we need to look elsewhere