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yes we need changes, bring Tui back, move Thompson back on the wing.
get rid of Zelesniak and put Nof or Fanua there and never let Godinet play FG again.

What a stinker of an assessment.

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Godinet was not the only one to make a mistake - Hooth and Benji made some clangers. Why Zelezniak? Unless we can bring someone on with good pace he will stay. Tui? Sorry too many positional and defensive mistakes at fullback in the ISP. Fanua also has mistakes in his game. Why move Thompson? Tui is just not good enough for fullback and Thompson is the best that we've got.
 
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yes we need changes, bring Tui back, move Thompson back on the wing.
get rid of Zelesniak and put Nof or Fanua there and never let Godinet play FG again.

What a stinker of an assessment.

a good assessment as far as i'm concerned if we want to win games and more importantly my opinion.
 
Tough one to call.

I thought the Knights were the better side, yet we did fight really well in second half to overcome the deficit quite rapidly and take the lead.

We failed to hold onto the lead because our middle and RHS weren't tight enough. Really you won't win many games with 50 MTs and that was my primary concern, because we fell off a lot of tackles early and late in the game. Even that SKD penalty to finish, was brought on by a bad missed tackle (Twal?).

However there have been a number of other tight games this year and those we did hold on and close out the match, so it's clear the team can do it, just that you can't expect a side to close out every close game, some are not going to fall for you.

Knights I think were fairly good, Ponga is a weapon with the way he moves and passes, and frankly I think we were over-committed to him when he appeared in the backline.

But 1 or 2 more calls in our favour and we win that game.

The point now is to turn up against Parra and play well, chalk up a win. NRL isn't about not losing IMO, it's about winning the most important and tight games and keeping your team as healthy as possible.

Most sides are going to drop a bunch of games this year, and Knights have 4 wins from 7, not as if they are a poor team.
 
Eiso is a bench prop and will go back there when Packer is healthy.

Goodinet is not first grade standard Reynolds or Mcilwrick are better options.

Rochow has hit a wall posted it a few weeks ago we need to upgrade the right edge back row.
 
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Geez after 7 weeks we've lost 2 games by a combined 3 points and people want to sack the coach and boot half the team. We weren't good enough tonight - it happens. Newcastle aren't the duds they've been in past years. Some changes maybe but you can only make changes that strengthen the team. No Packer, Lawrence, Reynolds, HIAs galore. It was a tough night. We've got a nice break leading into next round so that will be the test to rebound.

Nope im heasding for the razor blades…..

I see Nofo mentioned a lot but have seen other posters suggest the defensive structure on that. Right edge may not have been what it has been ingnored...have ti watch and see i guess...
 
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Geez after 7 weeks we've lost 2 games by a combined 3 points and people want to sack the coach and boot half the team. We weren't good enough tonight - it happens. Newcastle aren't the duds they've been in past years. Some changes maybe but you can only make changes that strengthen the team. No Packer, Lawrence, Reynolds, HIAs galore. It was a tough night. We've got a nice break leading into next round so that will be the test to rebound.

Nope im heasding for the razor blades…..

I see Nofo mentioned a lot but have seen other posters suggest the defensive structure on that. Right edge may not have been what it has been ingnored...have ti watch and see i guess...

http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=270&t=30982&start=18

Check the .gifs on page 2 for the 3 trys.

The problems all start way before Nofa but his positioning could also be better to cover the winger. Hopefully we sort it out fast.
 
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yes we need changes, bring Tui back, move Thompson back on the wing.
get rid of Zelesniak and put Nof or Fanua there and never let Godinet play FG again.

What a stinker of an assessment.

X2

Godinet was not the only one to make a mistake - Hooth and Benji made some clangers. Why Zelezniak? Unless we can bring someone on with good pace he will stay. Tui? Sorry too many positional and defensive mistakes at fullback in the ISP. Fanua also has mistakes in his game. Why move Thompson? Tui is just not good enough for fullback and Thompson is the best that we've got.

Zelezniak doesn"t make mistakes ? Thompson doesn't make mistakes ? you are kidding me right? everybody bags Tui or Nof or Benji or Brooks but no one seems to care that all the mistakes these other guys make and are always in the starting side. how is that fair?when these guys make mistakes why are they not dropped? most people on here bagged Brooks but i don't see why when he was coached by idiots. now it seems everybody is doing the same thing about Tui. as far as i;m concerned the best team should be picked. if they then lose then i can accept that but when we lose because of some of these players who are there every week and never get dropped really annoys me. Godinet played in ISP for years and no other team would put him in FG. Zelezniak could not make FG at Penrith but he seems to be a star player here. go figure. :brick:
 
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Geez after 7 weeks we've lost 2 games by a combined 3 points and people want to sack the coach and boot half the team. We weren't good enough tonight - it happens. Newcastle aren't the duds they've been in past years. Some changes maybe but you can only make changes that strengthen the team. No Packer, Lawrence, Reynolds, HIAs galore. It was a tough night. We've got a nice break leading into next round so that will be the test to rebound.

Nope im heasding for the razor blades…..

I see Nofo mentioned a lot but have seen other posters suggest the defensive structure on that. Right edge may not have been what it has been ingnored...have ti watch and see i guess...

http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=270&t=30982&start=18

Check the .gifs on page 2 for the 3 trys.

The problems all start way before Nofa but his positioning could also be better to cover the winger. Hopefully we sort it out fast.

x2 TT
 
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yes we need changes, bring Tui back, move Thompson back on the wing.
get rid of Zelesniak and put Nof or Fanua there and never let Godinet play FG again.

What a stinker of an assessment.

X2

Godinet was not the only one to make a mistake - Hooth and Benji made some clangers. Why Zelezniak? Unless we can bring someone on with good pace he will stay. Tui? Sorry too many positional and defensive mistakes at fullback in the ISP. Fanua also has mistakes in his game. Why move Thompson? Tui is just not good enough for fullback and Thompson is the best that we've got.

Zelezniak doesn"t make mistakes ? Thompson doesn't make mistakes ? you are kidding me right? everybody bags Tui or Nof or Benji or Brooks but no one seems to care that all the mistakes these other guys make and are always in the starting side. how is that fair?when these guys make mistakes why are they not dropped? most people on here bagged Brooks but i don't see why when he was coached by idiots. now it seems everybody is doing the same thing about Tui. as far as i;m concerned the best team should be picked. if they then lose then i can accept that but when we lose because of some of these players who are there every week and never get dropped really annoys me. Godinet played in ISP for years and no other team would put him in FG. Zelezniak could not make FG at Penrith but he seems to be a star player here. go figure. :brick:

you seem to know more than the coach… maybe you should coach (backseat coach)

they lost by 2 but to you it seems that it's the end of the world 😱pen_mouth:
 
Re: 3 tries by Sio. If you look at the Newcastle / Storm game you will see the Newcastle team scoring tries through long passes on the RHS to Sio. They were identical to those scored by Sio against us. If IC and the boys did their homework by reviewing previous games they should have realised this was a major scoring avenue for the Knights: yet, Sio managed three. Our boys either did their homework and our attempt to stop the move failed or they did not do their homework and the failure lies at training and inadequate preparation. Only IC and the playmakers now which it was.
 
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What a stinker of an assessment.

X2

Godinet was not the only one to make a mistake - Hooth and Benji made some clangers. Why Zelezniak? Unless we can bring someone on with good pace he will stay. Tui? Sorry too many positional and defensive mistakes at fullback in the ISP. Fanua also has mistakes in his game. Why move Thompson? Tui is just not good enough for fullback and Thompson is the best that we've got.

Zelezniak doesn"t make mistakes ? Thompson doesn't make mistakes ? you are kidding me right? everybody bags Tui or Nof or Benji or Brooks but no one seems to care that all the mistakes these other guys make and are always in the starting side. how is that fair?when these guys make mistakes why are they not dropped? most people on here bagged Brooks but i don't see why when he was coached by idiots. now it seems everybody is doing the same thing about Tui. as far as i;m concerned the best team should be picked. if they then lose then i can accept that but when we lose because of some of these players who are there every week and never get dropped really annoys me. Godinet played in ISP for years and no other team would put him in FG. Zelezniak could not make FG at Penrith but he seems to be a star player here. go figure. :brick:

you seem to know more than the coach… maybe you should coach (backseat coach)

they lost by 2 but to you it seems that it's the end of the world 😱pen_mouth:

backseat coach? it does seem that i do see what the coach doesn't. Cleary has his pets and they will not get dropped. yes we lost by 2 but it is a long season so we will see. :unamused:
 
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Godinet was not the only one to make a mistake - Hooth and Benji made some clangers. Why Zelezniak? Unless we can bring someone on with good pace he will stay. Tui? Sorry too many positional and defensive mistakes at fullback in the ISP. Fanua also has mistakes in his game. Why move Thompson? Tui is just not good enough for fullback and Thompson is the best that we've got.

Zelezniak doesn"t make mistakes ? Thompson doesn't make mistakes ? you are kidding me right? everybody bags Tui or Nof or Benji or Brooks but no one seems to care that all the mistakes these other guys make and are always in the starting side. how is that fair?when these guys make mistakes why are they not dropped? most people on here bagged Brooks but i don't see why when he was coached by idiots. now it seems everybody is doing the same thing about Tui. as far as i;m concerned the best team should be picked. if they then lose then i can accept that but when we lose because of some of these players who are there every week and never get dropped really annoys me. Godinet played in ISP for years and no other team would put him in FG. Zelezniak could not make FG at Penrith but he seems to be a star player here. go figure. :brick:

you seem to know more than the coach… maybe you should coach (backseat coach)

they lost by 2 but to you it seems that it's the end of the world 😱pen_mouth:

backseat coach? it does seem that i do see what the coach doesn't. Cleary has his pets and they will not get dropped. yes we lost by 2 but it is a long season so we will see. :unamused:

by the way Mr Know It All. i do this for fun because i cant stand most of the comments on here. do you guys really think Cleary reads all this crap. it seems that there are hundreds of coaches on here.
 
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Zelezniak doesn"t make mistakes ? Thompson doesn't make mistakes ? you are kidding me right? everybody bags Tui or Nof or Benji or Brooks but no one seems to care that all the mistakes these other guys make and are always in the starting side. how is that fair?when these guys make mistakes why are they not dropped? most people on here bagged Brooks but i don't see why when he was coached by idiots. now it seems everybody is doing the same thing about Tui. as far as i;m concerned the best team should be picked. if they then lose then i can accept that but when we lose because of some of these players who are there every week and never get dropped really annoys me. Godinet played in ISP for years and no other team would put him in FG. Zelezniak could not make FG at Penrith but he seems to be a star player here. go figure. :brick:

you seem to know more than the coach… maybe you should coach (backseat coach)

they lost by 2 but to you it seems that it's the end of the world 😱pen_mouth:

backseat coach? it does seem that i do see what the coach doesn't. Cleary has his pets and they will not get dropped. yes we lost by 2 but it is a long season so we will see. :unamused:

by the way Mr Know It All. i do this for fun because i cant stand most of the comments on here. do you guys really think Cleary reads all this crap. it seems that there are hundreds of coaches on here.

If that's your attitude then you're probably not going to last too long here either.
 
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Zelezniak doesn"t make mistakes ? Thompson doesn't make mistakes ? you are kidding me right? everybody bags Tui or Nof or Benji or Brooks but no one seems to care that all the mistakes these other guys make and are always in the starting side. how is that fair?when these guys make mistakes why are they not dropped? most people on here bagged Brooks but i don't see why when he was coached by idiots. now it seems everybody is doing the same thing about Tui. as far as i;m concerned the best team should be picked. if they then lose then i can accept that but when we lose because of some of these players who are there every week and never get dropped really annoys me. Godinet played in ISP for years and no other team would put him in FG. Zelezniak could not make FG at Penrith but he seems to be a star player here. go figure. :brick:

you seem to know more than the coach… maybe you should coach (backseat coach)

they lost by 2 but to you it seems that it's the end of the world 😱pen_mouth:

backseat coach? it does seem that i do see what the coach doesn't. Cleary has his pets and they will not get dropped. yes we lost by 2 but it is a long season so we will see. :unamused:

by the way Mr Know It All. i do this for fun because i cant stand most of the comments on here. do you guys really think Cleary reads all this crap. it seems that there are hundreds of coaches on here.

Another 14yo
 
I don't think anyone believes Cleary reads the forum…. Don't know what gave you that idea.
Hes a quality professional person with no time for trivial things such as this board
 
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