So what every one think about the impending signature of the bloke? Im very interested to see how he goes but i am happy to have him here. I will be interested to see how many tries he will score and what position he plays. Ill make a guess and say he will score 5 tries from 13 games and play on the wing lol.
fulleightyminutes
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It was over 10 years ago but I did see Lote play fullback for the Broncos against Balmain at Leichhardt, when Lockyer was injured and he killed it. For what it's worth, I think he has played it (albiet not much) before.
I'm looking forward to it, and think it speaks volumes for how the club is viewed (even if there's a big gap between perception and performance ie making the 8, at the moment).
I'm looking forward to it, and think it speaks volumes for how the club is viewed (even if there's a big gap between perception and performance ie making the 8, at the moment).
AmericanHistoryX
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1\. tuqiri 2\. tupou 3\. lawrence. 4\. gasnier, 5\. tuaki
benjibrotown
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@Ausmunin said:
Yeh mate, Mark Gasnier is no Beau Ryan… :slight_smile:
B
Butso
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Gasnier???? Pffft. Glad you guys aren't selectors. He is a hasbeen (or a "never was").
I thought we were looking to the future?
I thought we were looking to the future?
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**I was young, famous, rich and silly: Lote**
December 14, 2009
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Sacked Wallaby Lote Tuqiri has gone on the record to apologise for the series of misdeameanours that eventually led to his ARU contract being torn up, admitting: ''I've let myself down and I owe it to myself to put it right.''
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Tuqiri is now playing for English side Leicester and has told the UK's Sunday Mirror: ''There are a lot of things I shouldn't have done. I should have been smarter. I was young, famous, wealthy and too much in a comfort zone. But I am older now, wiser, and I have responsibility to two young sons - and to a club who have taken a punt on me.''
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Tuqiri expressed remorse at a number of indiscretions, ranging from late-night drinking sessions, shoving and verbally abusing Sam Norton-Knight during a Waratahs game and failing a breath test at training.
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''I blew over the limit because I'd been drinking the night before,'' Tuqiri said. ''I shouldn't have done that.''
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Tuqiri also revealed his remorse over the incident in 2007 when he put Wallabies selector Michael O'Connor on speaker phone during a Waratahs drinking session as O'Connor described why former Waratah Peter Hewat had been omitted from a national train-on squad.
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''I shouldn't have done that either,'' Tuqiri said. ''Coming to Leicester is a fresh start, a new challenge and exactly what I needed. I've got to prove the doubters wrong and prove to myself that I can still play at the highest level.''
Hope he says that in his Wests Tigers press release…....
**I was young, famous, rich and silly: Lote**
December 14, 2009
>
Sacked Wallaby Lote Tuqiri has gone on the record to apologise for the series of misdeameanours that eventually led to his ARU contract being torn up, admitting: ''I've let myself down and I owe it to myself to put it right.''
>
Tuqiri is now playing for English side Leicester and has told the UK's Sunday Mirror: ''There are a lot of things I shouldn't have done. I should have been smarter. I was young, famous, wealthy and too much in a comfort zone. But I am older now, wiser, and I have responsibility to two young sons - and to a club who have taken a punt on me.''
>
Tuqiri expressed remorse at a number of indiscretions, ranging from late-night drinking sessions, shoving and verbally abusing Sam Norton-Knight during a Waratahs game and failing a breath test at training.
>
''I blew over the limit because I'd been drinking the night before,'' Tuqiri said. ''I shouldn't have done that.''
>
Tuqiri also revealed his remorse over the incident in 2007 when he put Wallabies selector Michael O'Connor on speaker phone during a Waratahs drinking session as O'Connor described why former Waratah Peter Hewat had been omitted from a national train-on squad.
>
''I shouldn't have done that either,'' Tuqiri said. ''Coming to Leicester is a fresh start, a new challenge and exactly what I needed. I've got to prove the doubters wrong and prove to myself that I can still play at the highest level.''
Hope he says that in his Wests Tigers press release…....
Hurry up Tigers Give Tim and the rest of us our Christmas present.
Announce Lote and bring him back to Oz.
Announce Lote and bring him back to Oz.
wests4ever
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Hi guys.
I think Lote will be on the wing for the Tigers.
My team for:
1\. Blake Lazarus(if fit).
2\. lote.
3.lawrence.
4.Brown.
5.tank.
6.benji.
7.Moltzen.
8.cayless.
9\. farah.
10.Galloway.
11.ELLIS.
12.Heighnington.
13\. Mark Flanagan.
14\. Arana Tamata.
15\. Gibbs.
16\. A.Fifita.
17.Fulton.
Fitzy (nuff nuff) will be reserve for reserve grade.
Obviously the makeup will depend on availability but I believe this is a very powerful,balanced team.
I believe you do not need 2nd rowers on mass reserve bench. Props & skillful 9/6/7/1 win matches.
Hope this team & my thoughts find some support in here guys!
Tigers will be top 4 all year.
Cheers! :sign: :smiley:
I think Lote will be on the wing for the Tigers.
My team for:
1\. Blake Lazarus(if fit).
2\. lote.
3.lawrence.
4.Brown.
5.tank.
6.benji.
7.Moltzen.
8.cayless.
9\. farah.
10.Galloway.
11.ELLIS.
12.Heighnington.
13\. Mark Flanagan.
14\. Arana Tamata.
15\. Gibbs.
16\. A.Fifita.
17.Fulton.
Fitzy (nuff nuff) will be reserve for reserve grade.
Obviously the makeup will depend on availability but I believe this is a very powerful,balanced team.
I believe you do not need 2nd rowers on mass reserve bench. Props & skillful 9/6/7/1 win matches.
Hope this team & my thoughts find some support in here guys!
Tigers will be top 4 all year.
Cheers! :sign: :smiley:
Any Mail out there??
Wher has Anderson Silva gone???
Wher has Anderson Silva gone???
citizen_cub
New member
i just wonder when tuqiri will announce his signing?
92 pages eh?
get out of bloody england and sign Lote!
92 pages eh?
get out of bloody england and sign Lote!
benjibrotown
New member
@wests4ever said:
I like the fact that youve put Fifata on the bench but dont what you thinking putting Brown in ahead of Ayshford. I thnk that there are big things to come for Ayshford and would not leave him out of my side.
Id prefer to see:
1.Tuquri
2.Tuiaki
3.Ayshford
4.Lawence
5.toupo
6.marshall
7.Motzen
8.Galloway
9.Farah ©
10.Cayless
11.Ellis
12.Heino
13.Mataka
14.Taumata
15.Gibbs
14.Fulton
17.Fafita
king_sirro
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@wests4ever said:
Its a fine side but 3 concerns i have are no Ayshford, Lazarus wont be anywhere near first grade (at least at the start) and no one has even seen Flanagan play so i dont know how anyone can put him in their side.
The side is well balanced though, something Sheens sometimes struggles to provide us.
@king sirro said:
I think we need Payten in our side. Whilst he is not a damaging forward his skills can not be underestimated and the ability he has to offload and place runners into holes whilst attracting defenders is worth having in the side. I would definately have him in there above any of the young props.
glebe_tiger
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**<big>Tuqiri misses blue skies and the ball</big>**
December 18, 2009
The former Wallabies bad boy is finding English rugby and the climate a bit stodgy, writes Paul Ackford.
I like Lote Tuqiri, always have. He is such a tidy rugby player. When he switched from rugby league in 2002, the transition was so seamless that he made the Wallabies back line the following year, even scoring a try against England in the World Cup final.
Many of the allegedly stellar league converts to union have been a waste of space. Wendell Sailor? Rubbish. Lesley Vainikolo? Plainly inadequate. Henry Paul? No more than mediocre. For every Jason Robinson, there were an awful lot of duds. Tuqiri always seemed to be one of the more successful examples. He had a natural affinity with the rhythms and intricacies of union.
So it was a bit of a shock to go to Leicester last week to find the big wing rather sad. That's SAD as in seasonal affective disorder. The man from Fiji via Oz, who faces Clermont Auvergne on Sunday afternoon in an important Heineken Cup tie, is struggling to come to terms with life in the Midlands.
''The club has been great,'' he said. ''I can't fault that aspect. It's just getting used to the conditions and the weather. That's been the main thing for me. People talk about winter depression. Well, I think I probably have it. I do get down after a few days of bad weather. It's always grey over here. On the rare occasion the sun has shone, I've had to get myself outside to sit in it, even though it has been cold. It's affected me, to be honest with you.''
So much so there are doubts as to whether Tuqiri will extend his deal with Leicester beyond the end of the season. And that would be a shame because what Tuqiri brings at his best is an intelligence and an attitude that can only benefit Leicester and, ultimately, through association, England.
''You play a lot of percentage footy up here,'' he says, when asked to offer his initial impressions after four appearances for the Tigers. ''There's a lot of kicking out and playing to set pieces, which is one of Leicester's strengths, and I guess I've got to get used to that. But I look at a guy like Chris Latham [the former Wallabies fullback at Worcester]. He was phenomenal down south, yet he probably hasn't touched the ball as much as he would have liked. I suppose it isn't that surprising. Just have a glance at who is on top of the premiership now [Saracens]. They just kick the leather off the ball and expect other teams to make mistakes. It's rugby, but personally, I don't find it that exciting.''
The dilemma for Leicester is whether they integrate Tuqiri into their existing system, which can be a little one-dimensional, or whether they feed off his instincts and knowledge to bring more variety to their game. Not that Tuqiri is stupid enough to suggest a complete rejig. ''Australia play the way they do because we haven't had the players to be as 'bash, barge and in your face' as an England team. We have to be smart about how we play, and we do approach it differently. I don't know if we haven't been smart here at Leicester, but with Mattie [Matt O'Connor, the Leicester backs coach and another Aussie] we're certainly trying a few things. Smart means training a bit differently. We do a lot of contact work up here. I've not done as much as that in Australia. The forwards work hard. Maybe we need to do a bit more of that at home.''
The other factor, of course, apart from the will to effect change, is whether there are enough players in and around the Leicester squad with appropriate game-management skills to make it work. That's something else I've admired in Tuqiri. He's no Einstein. He recently completed a small business course, courtesy of the Australian Players' Association, and has absolutely no idea of what he will do with the qualification, but he is rugby savvy.
''I think intelligence is important. Raw talent gets you to a certain place, but you look at the best players in the world, and they offer something else. You don't have to be IQ smart, but you've got to know your way around a field and you've got to know your way 'round a team as well. The team environment is massive. If you're in a good side, the team comes before anyone else.''
And here we arrive at a dislocation because Tuqiri had a chequered history with the Wallabies, getting into trouble on numerous occasions for breaching team rules, mainly, it appears, after taking on too much grog. Eventually, the ARU and coach Robbie Deans had enough, and in July this year, after yet another incident, Tuqiri's contract was terminated. He refuses to comment on the matter, citing a confidentiality clause in the severance package.
Tuqiri acknowledges the need to sharpen up.
**Just turned 30 and with a strong desire somehow to find a way back into the Wallabies set-up for the 2011 World Cup, he knows he can't afford any more slip-ups.**
''I've made progress,'' he said, on the subject of self-control.
''I've had my days when I probably wasn't as disciplined as I should have been. I've had to grow up over the last few years. But I still get nervous before matches. The Heineken Cup is a new competition for me and was high on my list when I was looking at clubs to join. It's a big stage, and I'm enjoying the hype.''
If only the British weather were more clement.
Paul Ackford is a former England second-rower who made his debut against Australia in 1988 and played in all three Tests of the British and Irish Lions tour of Australia in 1989.
Telegraph, London
December 18, 2009
The former Wallabies bad boy is finding English rugby and the climate a bit stodgy, writes Paul Ackford.
I like Lote Tuqiri, always have. He is such a tidy rugby player. When he switched from rugby league in 2002, the transition was so seamless that he made the Wallabies back line the following year, even scoring a try against England in the World Cup final.
Many of the allegedly stellar league converts to union have been a waste of space. Wendell Sailor? Rubbish. Lesley Vainikolo? Plainly inadequate. Henry Paul? No more than mediocre. For every Jason Robinson, there were an awful lot of duds. Tuqiri always seemed to be one of the more successful examples. He had a natural affinity with the rhythms and intricacies of union.
So it was a bit of a shock to go to Leicester last week to find the big wing rather sad. That's SAD as in seasonal affective disorder. The man from Fiji via Oz, who faces Clermont Auvergne on Sunday afternoon in an important Heineken Cup tie, is struggling to come to terms with life in the Midlands.
''The club has been great,'' he said. ''I can't fault that aspect. It's just getting used to the conditions and the weather. That's been the main thing for me. People talk about winter depression. Well, I think I probably have it. I do get down after a few days of bad weather. It's always grey over here. On the rare occasion the sun has shone, I've had to get myself outside to sit in it, even though it has been cold. It's affected me, to be honest with you.''
So much so there are doubts as to whether Tuqiri will extend his deal with Leicester beyond the end of the season. And that would be a shame because what Tuqiri brings at his best is an intelligence and an attitude that can only benefit Leicester and, ultimately, through association, England.
''You play a lot of percentage footy up here,'' he says, when asked to offer his initial impressions after four appearances for the Tigers. ''There's a lot of kicking out and playing to set pieces, which is one of Leicester's strengths, and I guess I've got to get used to that. But I look at a guy like Chris Latham [the former Wallabies fullback at Worcester]. He was phenomenal down south, yet he probably hasn't touched the ball as much as he would have liked. I suppose it isn't that surprising. Just have a glance at who is on top of the premiership now [Saracens]. They just kick the leather off the ball and expect other teams to make mistakes. It's rugby, but personally, I don't find it that exciting.''
The dilemma for Leicester is whether they integrate Tuqiri into their existing system, which can be a little one-dimensional, or whether they feed off his instincts and knowledge to bring more variety to their game. Not that Tuqiri is stupid enough to suggest a complete rejig. ''Australia play the way they do because we haven't had the players to be as 'bash, barge and in your face' as an England team. We have to be smart about how we play, and we do approach it differently. I don't know if we haven't been smart here at Leicester, but with Mattie [Matt O'Connor, the Leicester backs coach and another Aussie] we're certainly trying a few things. Smart means training a bit differently. We do a lot of contact work up here. I've not done as much as that in Australia. The forwards work hard. Maybe we need to do a bit more of that at home.''
The other factor, of course, apart from the will to effect change, is whether there are enough players in and around the Leicester squad with appropriate game-management skills to make it work. That's something else I've admired in Tuqiri. He's no Einstein. He recently completed a small business course, courtesy of the Australian Players' Association, and has absolutely no idea of what he will do with the qualification, but he is rugby savvy.
''I think intelligence is important. Raw talent gets you to a certain place, but you look at the best players in the world, and they offer something else. You don't have to be IQ smart, but you've got to know your way around a field and you've got to know your way 'round a team as well. The team environment is massive. If you're in a good side, the team comes before anyone else.''
And here we arrive at a dislocation because Tuqiri had a chequered history with the Wallabies, getting into trouble on numerous occasions for breaching team rules, mainly, it appears, after taking on too much grog. Eventually, the ARU and coach Robbie Deans had enough, and in July this year, after yet another incident, Tuqiri's contract was terminated. He refuses to comment on the matter, citing a confidentiality clause in the severance package.
Tuqiri acknowledges the need to sharpen up.
**Just turned 30 and with a strong desire somehow to find a way back into the Wallabies set-up for the 2011 World Cup, he knows he can't afford any more slip-ups.**
''I've made progress,'' he said, on the subject of self-control.
''I've had my days when I probably wasn't as disciplined as I should have been. I've had to grow up over the last few years. But I still get nervous before matches. The Heineken Cup is a new competition for me and was high on my list when I was looking at clubs to join. It's a big stage, and I'm enjoying the hype.''
If only the British weather were more clement.
Paul Ackford is a former England second-rower who made his debut against Australia in 1988 and played in all three Tests of the British and Irish Lions tour of Australia in 1989.
Telegraph, London
matty_tiepie
New member
LOL you have to laugh at some of these sports writers. he will be with us for sure and they are talking world cup for yawnion.
AmericanHistoryX
Well-known member
according to the daily telegraph Lote is missing dearly the Australian sun.
Lote banging on about how much of a farce rugby really is…...also a snippet on him joining the Tigers. :mrgreen:
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Rugby union must learn from league, sacked Wallabies star Lote Tuqiri says
By Jon Geddes
December 18, 2009
Rugby union officials can learn from their rugby league counterparts about making the game more of a spectacle, former Wallabies winger Lote Tuqiri says.
“"They change the rules a lot in rugby league and it is probably a better spectacle as a result, certainly in the south."” – Lote Tuqiri The league-cum-union-cum league winger compares the entertainment value of the codes.
Tuqiri, now in his sixth week with leading Guinness Premiership club Leiceister Tigers, also said that he had faced a tough transition playing in the northern hemisphere winter, with temperatures for his side's Heineken Cup fixture against Clermont Auvergne this weekend expected to plunge below 0C.
"They change the rules a lot in rugby league and it is probably a better spectacle as a result, certainly in the south," the Leicester Mercury newspaper quoted Tuqiri as saying.
"They try to cater for the spectators a lot more down there.
"In Australia, in rugby league, we are in a market where we have to entertain the crowds because we just don't have the population base that there is up here.
"I like watching it.
"They are quite forward-thinking in that sense."
**Tuqiri, who will return to the NRL for the 2010 season, with Wests Tigers,** also pointed to the AFL as a league from which union could learn, as coaches and umpires get together at the end of the season to discuss potential rule changes for the better of the spectator.
"That is something rugby could learn from," Tuqiri said.
Saracens, who are currently on top of the Guinness Premiership, kick the leather off the ball and expect the other teams to make a mistake, Tuqiri said.
"It's rugby but, personally, I don't think it is exciting," he said.
"That is what we play up here though and I just have to get used to it."
Tuqiri's frustrations about the state of rugby union are being echoed around the world, yet the International Rugby Board stubbornly ignores growing calls for law changes to revatilise the game before the 2011 Rugby World Cup.
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Rugby union must learn from league, sacked Wallabies star Lote Tuqiri says
By Jon Geddes
December 18, 2009
Rugby union officials can learn from their rugby league counterparts about making the game more of a spectacle, former Wallabies winger Lote Tuqiri says.
“"They change the rules a lot in rugby league and it is probably a better spectacle as a result, certainly in the south."” – Lote Tuqiri The league-cum-union-cum league winger compares the entertainment value of the codes.
Tuqiri, now in his sixth week with leading Guinness Premiership club Leiceister Tigers, also said that he had faced a tough transition playing in the northern hemisphere winter, with temperatures for his side's Heineken Cup fixture against Clermont Auvergne this weekend expected to plunge below 0C.
"They change the rules a lot in rugby league and it is probably a better spectacle as a result, certainly in the south," the Leicester Mercury newspaper quoted Tuqiri as saying.
"They try to cater for the spectators a lot more down there.
"In Australia, in rugby league, we are in a market where we have to entertain the crowds because we just don't have the population base that there is up here.
"I like watching it.
"They are quite forward-thinking in that sense."
**Tuqiri, who will return to the NRL for the 2010 season, with Wests Tigers,** also pointed to the AFL as a league from which union could learn, as coaches and umpires get together at the end of the season to discuss potential rule changes for the better of the spectator.
"That is something rugby could learn from," Tuqiri said.
Saracens, who are currently on top of the Guinness Premiership, kick the leather off the ball and expect the other teams to make a mistake, Tuqiri said.
"It's rugby but, personally, I don't think it is exciting," he said.
"That is what we play up here though and I just have to get used to it."
Tuqiri's frustrations about the state of rugby union are being echoed around the world, yet the International Rugby Board stubbornly ignores growing calls for law changes to revatilise the game before the 2011 Rugby World Cup.
@towntiger said:
Todd Payten is vital part of the team. Deffinately Ball playing Lock or off the Bench for 2010\. I hope to see him in the Tigers colours for a few seasons more.
I see alot of talk about - Fafita, Mataka, Lazurus and Malaney. Realistically with the depth that we seem to be getting, Will they be ready for 1st grade this year Let alone making the starting 17 in round 1\. I have my reservations.
