Luke Brooks undecided on future. Admits he could leave Tigers

[Tigerdon]

It seems the salary cap equal for some clubs then a lot more equal for other clubs …or however that saying goes.
Manly, Parra, Easts, NZ, ect can sign up whoever they like.. and we struggle to hold onto our juniors . Real it's a joke if we aren't able to hold onto two rookie halves , Teddy & Woods.

 

[supercoach]

It seems the salary cap equal for some clubs then a lot more equal for other clubs …or however that saying goes.
Manly, Parra, Easts, NZ, ect can sign up whoever they like.. and we struggle to hold onto our juniors . Real it's a joke if we aren't able to hold onto two rookie halves , Teddy & Woods.

For the teams that play by the rules its a bit like trying to beat the East German swimming team back when they were on the juice and smashing world records by crazy times. Taylor has done a good job with the budget he had to play with but it will not be good enough come September because it is not a level playing field, in fact it isn't even close to being level

 

[Curaeus]

Supercoach is 100% right!

 

[greatodensraven]

It seems the salary cap equal for some clubs then a lot more equal for other clubs …or however that saying goes.
Manly, Parra, Easts, NZ, ect can sign up whoever they like.. and we struggle to hold onto our juniors . Real it's a joke if we aren't able to hold onto two rookie halves , Teddy & Woods.

For the teams that play by the rules its a bit like trying to beat the East German swimming team back when they were on the juice and smashing world records by crazy times. Taylor has done a good job with the budget he had to play with but it will not be good enough come September because it is not a level playing field, in fact it isn't even close to being level

Have you seen the EPL lately? All the money in the world doesn't always buy you a title. We've got the potential & our young guns are a little more experienced this year. Let's just hope they put in as a team week in week out. A few wins & the journos might start picking on someone else.

 

[happy_tiger]

It seems the salary cap equal for some clubs then a lot more equal for other clubs …or however that saying goes.
Manly, Parra, Easts, NZ, ect can sign up whoever they like.. and we struggle to hold onto our juniors . Real it's a joke if we aren't able to hold onto two rookie halves , Teddy & Woods.

For the teams that play by the rules its a bit like trying to beat the East German swimming team back when they were on the juice and smashing world records by crazy times. Taylor has done a good job with the budget he had to play with but it will not be good enough come September because it is not a level playing field, in fact it isn't even close to being level

Have you seen the EPL lately? All the money in the world doesn't always buy you a title. We've got the potential & our young guns are a little more experienced this year. Let's just hope they put in as a team week in week out. A few wins & the journos might start picking on someone else.

Have you seen the EPL ladder lately ??

Leicester I believe is the lowest spending team (well definitely in the bottom three ) in the EPL and lead by two points

 

[Nelson]

I agree CB , how Manly have managed to get Myles , Taupau , Dylan Walker , Koroisau , Lewis Brown , Darcy Lussick is truly a work of Art…...while we have to be content with player signings such as : Ballin , Grant , Edwards with past NRL pedigree.
Mind you i think they are great Bargain signings no doubt and i must say JT has done a great job with what his had to work with , but in terms of big name signings ? will just have to wait to get ourselves sorted.

They freed up a lot of dollars in losing Foran and Hiku. They would also have freed up decent coin with Justin Horo, Jesse Sene Lefao, Dunamis Lui, Matt Ballin (some of his contract) and Clint Gutherson among others.

Of their recruits:
Myles - has been poor at club level for the last few seasons. Offers nothing in attack. Probably wasn't fielding too many offers despite his QLD origin status (which is a detriment if anything given his age).
Koroisau - not previously regarded as a first string hooker and unlikely to have commanded huge dollars. Probably went to Manly as much for the chance at being a first string hooker under Barrett. Is not in the top 10 hookers in the game at the moment. In the short term at least he is a downgrade on Ballin.
Darcy Lussick - has done his market value no favours by being dreadful for Parramatta for the last few years. Likely little interest from rivals. Is a plodder in all aspects of the game save for cheap-shotting people in the head (and getting suspended for it).
Lewis Brown - a good solid signing that probably played on the Barrett connection. He's an improvement on what they lost.
Taupau - they just showed him the money. He could be a great signing or he could turn out to be a longer lasting version of Daine Laurie. I think he'll go well but he's a high energy player like Fifita so he'll always have a few errors and penalties in him.
Dylan Walker - they played on his immense ego and threw a pile of money at him. Will probably be a terrible 5/8 and will get shuffled back into the centres. He's a good player and a major attacking threat but his little OD stunt would have kept market interest down a little. Buying players with big egos and off field dramas has its risks.

It's an impressive effort in terms of the amount of experienced players they brought in, but I don't think they were all wise purchases and some are big money gambles.

 

[supercoach]

We have done it to death, but unless everyone has exactly the same coin to spend every year and what they spend is transparent we will never have a level playing field. Can this be achieved…I doubt it

 

[Russell]

Your two posts are spot on Supercoach.

Makes you wonder why you play by the rules, doesn't it?

It was some sort of equal playing field (apart from the rorters) until they brought in TPA's which is just a legalised form of cheating. Unless they do away them, teams like us i.e. the strugglers will always be disadvantaged no matter how much they get from TV rights.

Speaking of TV, now there is another huge anomaly - a team like Brisbane is on TV nearly every week - how much do they get for that as opposed to us who maybe get 5-6 games per year if we are lucky?

As you say - we have done it to death. Little man suffers as in all walks of life.
We just have to toughen up, can't see them changing the system any time soon especially with a bunch of Boofheads in charge.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Your two posts are spot on Supercoach.

Makes you wonder why you play by the rules, doesn't it?

It was some sort of equal playing field (apart from the rorters) until they brought in TPA's which is just a legalised form of cheating. Unless they do away them, teams like us i.e. the strugglers will always be disadvantaged no matter how much they get from TV rights.

Speaking of TV, now there is another huge anomaly - a team like Brisbane is on TV nearly every week - how much do they get for that as opposed to us who maybe get 5-6 games per year if we are lucky?

As you say - we have done it to death. Little man suffers as in all walks of life.
We just have to toughen up, can't see them changing the system any time soon especially with a bunch of Boofheads in charge.

You know why we play by the rules Russell? Because we'd likely get caught out if we did engage in it. We're a two bit club that has a history for leaking like a sieve. That, and we likely cannot afford to rort the cap anyway.

TPA's are not legalised cheating if done correctly. It feels like the millionth time I've said this, but you cannot stop someone making money from their IP. I'm sure all clubs have a hand in negotiating TPA's when they shouldn't but to say they should be outlawed completely is a restraint of trade and that IS illegal.

I do agree that all player spends and TPA's should be transparent.

 

[Russell]

Your two posts are spot on Supercoach.

Makes you wonder why you play by the rules, doesn't it?

It was some sort of equal playing field (apart from the rorters) until they brought in TPA's which is just a legalised form of cheating. Unless they do away them, teams like us i.e. the strugglers will always be disadvantaged no matter how much they get from TV rights.

Speaking of TV, now there is another huge anomaly - a team like Brisbane is on TV nearly every week - how much do they get for that as opposed to us who maybe get 5-6 games per year if we are lucky?

As you say - we have done it to death. Little man suffers as in all walks of life.
We just have to toughen up, can't see them changing the system any time soon especially with a bunch of Boofheads in charge.

You know why we play by the rules Russell? Because we'd likely get caught out if we did engage in it. We're a two bit club that has a history for leaking like a sieve. That, and we likely cannot afford to rort the cap anyway.

TPA's are not legalised cheating if done correctly. It feels like the millionth time I've said this, but you cannot stop someone making money from their IP. I'm sure all clubs have a hand in negotiating TPA's when they shouldn't but to say they should be outlawed completely is a restraint of trade and that IS illegal.

I do agree that all player spends and TPA's should be transparent.

We would get nabbed for sure CB if we participated.

I will explain my legalised cheating statement.

Not saying TPA's as such are cheating - I was getting at that, it is a more uncontrolled spending for clubs to throw more money at players and have more loop holes to get away with it.

Take your point of restraint of trade - and if the TPA,s are declared as they should it is open to rorting just the same as it was without it. So you can't win.

Maybe all payments should be made to the NRL and paid onto the players by them. May make any other payments to players more traceable.

Certainly a big problem for us though.

 

[Geo]

All TPA's must be approved by the NRL…club affiliated or player/manager sourced...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

That's right Geo, but how many "external" TPA's, that is non-club affiliated TPA's, are still introduced or negotiated clandestinely by clubs or club affiliated sponsors?

 

[pHyR3]

Your two posts are spot on Supercoach.

Makes you wonder why you play by the rules, doesn't it?

It was some sort of equal playing field (apart from the rorters) until they brought in TPA's which is just a legalised form of cheating. Unless they do away them, teams like us i.e. the strugglers will always be disadvantaged no matter how much they get from TV rights.

Speaking of TV, now there is another huge anomaly - a team like Brisbane is on TV nearly every week - how much do they get for that as opposed to us who maybe get 5-6 games per year if we are lucky?

As you say - we have done it to death. Little man suffers as in all walks of life.
We just have to toughen up, can't see them changing the system any time soon especially with a bunch of Boofheads in charge.

every team is on tv every week (assuming they play)?

fox paid almost as much as 9 did for nrl rights 45% - 55% split from memory

 

[Russell]

I stand corrected pHyR3 if we make as much during the season for all our games as the Broncos make for theirs.

 

[ricksen]

Every team gets the same grant from the NRL - it's more the extra audience you get from being on FTA every week. This means your players and sponsors get much more exposure, which in turn leads to bigger $$$.

 

[greatodensraven]

It seems the salary cap equal for some clubs then a lot more equal for other clubs …or however that saying goes.
Manly, Parra, Easts, NZ, ect can sign up whoever they like.. and we struggle to hold onto our juniors . Real it's a joke if we aren't able to hold onto two rookie halves , Teddy & Woods.

For the teams that play by the rules its a bit like trying to beat the East German swimming team back when they were on the juice and smashing world records by crazy times. Taylor has done a good job with the budget he had to play with but it will not be good enough come September because it is not a level playing field, in fact it isn't even close to being level

Have you seen the EPL lately? All the money in the world doesn't always buy you a title. We've got the potential & our young guns are a little more experienced this year. Let's just hope they put in as a team week in week out. A few wins & the journos might start picking on someone else.

Have you seen the EPL ladder lately ??

Leicester I believe is the lowest spending team (well definitely in the bottom three ) in the EPL and lead by two points

Um 😕 …

http://www.videodetective.com/movies/super-troopers-scene-additional-scenes/450100

 

[supercoach]

My guess the NRl have their hands tied to a extent with TPA's. If they abolish them some smart legal firm would start up a case on behalf of the players. I suppose we need these deals to be 100% legit and transparent and that is unlikely to ever happen. Also lets face it there are a million one ways to top up a players wages under the table with very little or no chance of being caught

 

[tigerlogic]

Are you guys serious when you say let him go, who cares etc? Or just sick of hearing about it? Seriously how could you be happy if he left he's the best halfback we've had in 10 years… My mate who went to school with Luke says its just the same old media speculation and that he loves the Tigers and doesn't want to leave. I've not seen any article to suggest otherwise it's all just spin. Headlines with no context. You've just got to ignore it until we get to June and he commits to the Tigers the media will shut up then

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my brother who coached him says he is leaving. sorry guys havent posted for a while. he mentioned two clubs . have to wait and see

Who to believe

Kid could have just changed his mind…I probably wouldn't know what to do if I was him either.

Play with my mates like Milone and Moses or join another more professional organisation with more stability.

If he plays ANY footy with milone this year it means he is in new cup OR the Tigers will get the spoon

 

[tsjonathan]

Are you guys serious when you say let him go, who cares etc? Or just sick of hearing about it? Seriously how could you be happy if he left he's the best halfback we've had in 10 years… My mate who went to school with Luke says its just the same old media speculation and that he loves the Tigers and doesn't want to leave. I've not seen any article to suggest otherwise it's all just spin. Headlines with no context. You've just got to ignore it until we get to June and he commits to the Tigers the media will shut up then

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my brother who coached him says he is leaving. sorry guys havent posted for a while. he mentioned two clubs . have to wait and see

Who to believe

Kid could have just changed his mind…I probably wouldn't know what to do if I was him either.

Play with my mates like Milone and Moses or join another more professional organisation with more stability.

If he plays ANY footy with milone this year it means he is in new cup OR the Tigers will get the spoon

The big 4

 

[Tigermama]

Who to believe

Kid could have just changed his mind…I probably wouldn't know what to do if I was him either.

Play with my mates like Milone and Moses or join another more professional organisation with more stability.

If he plays ANY footy with milone this year it means he is in new cup OR the Tigers will get the spoon

The big 4

Lol… Milone looks out of place :laughing: