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I just read on news.com halfback rankings for 2018\. M.Moses came in 12th with the added baggage that he was shopped around and no club wanted him. Article says eels don’t want to renew his contract when it expires.
Meanwhile Brooks signs a multimillion 5 year deal and is developing into a well respected club hero.
As many have said - karma’s a b****!

Moses can txt Luke next World Cup saying it is great with poor Luke still replying "what's that?" haha
 
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fabulous news that this young man has resigned.
He was one of the big four that the tigers were hoping to resign
18 months back.when he did,reaction on this forum was lukewarm
to say the least.
the irony is that luke has been much more successful than both moses
and woods in the past 12 months.luke must be happy.
i wonder what woods and moses think about their decisions to leave now.

Woods hasn’t any reason to worry too much about anything , different story about Moses though
 
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Brooks on current form is a better player than we can attract. The NRL will never value development as they want to take over all elite pathways. Clever teams that really don’t care about the game just their clubs are dominating Roosters, Sharks, Storm do very little in their areas with juniors.

Their fans don’t care too much, where their players come from, just that they keep winning andmaking the Semis on a regular basis, sounds ok to me.
Obviously we need to get clever as well, but I won’t hold my breath.
 
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What did the reporter say..?

“it was 0n a backended contract”uu7

I found the article.It was written in the telegraph so as far as i am concerned it would be fiction.

Hehe, the same politically biased newspaper that trumpeted Turnbull, now hailing king Sco Mo … I don’t buy that rubbish paper anymore, always pushing their own agenda.
Always looking for news on the tigers in the offseason but not desperate enough for their fiction.

That’s funny, I seem to remember that whenever the Telegraph ran an unfavourable story on Ivan or Penrith, most here clung to every word that was printed, as if JC himself had written the story
 
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As could Seibold and Cleary and many many others, including clubs. Very sad modern reality that loyalty and your word mean very little.

Yes and lets see how important loyalty is to fans next year if Luke doesnt perform - can guarantee he wont be feeling the love for being loyal then.
Lack of percieved loyalty is an excuse to bag players when its convenient - but dont see loyalty figuring in fans mindset when your team is losing.
**How will we ever lure a player from another club if they all remained loyal??**
We offered Luke a good deal, he accepted good for him and good for us.
How long the warm and fuzzys last depends on how well he plays.

Well that’s true but I loved footy the best when the nucleus of you team was the same for a long time. I supported Balmain and our team in the late 80s we’re together for ages. Same with Canberra, Canterbury, parramatta as I remember. Nowadays you boo a bloke one week and next week he’s in your side. It’s called tribalism and rugby league was built on it. I know it’s a modern game etc etc but think we a poorer for it. (When the thought was Bennett was coming I was thinking: how can I support Darius Boyd?) I value and respect players like Lawrence, Nofa, Farah, Marshall and Brooks. I also respect club men from other clubs. But that’s just me.
Regarding bagging Brooks next year - yeah many will do it (regardless if his form) but I won’t.

Dont disagree with you Steve. Followed Balmain too during that era when players came up through the juniors many as local boys, and never left. And thats the way I liked it.
Just a different game now, and to be successful it seems to be more about recruiting and retaining well - and often from outside your club. Loyalty is admirable for sure, but it wont necessarily make us successful. Glad Brooks extended, but if we are to find some success its his form that will ultimately be the key, rather than his loyalty, and the clubs ability to attract some quality players to support him.

We're on the right path with the recruiting we've done at the junior level this year. We need to make this an ongoing programme because we have always brought through juniors well.
 
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As could Seibold and Cleary and many many others, including clubs. Very sad modern reality that loyalty and your word mean very little.

Yes and lets see how important loyalty is to fans next year if Luke doesnt perform - can guarantee he wont be feeling the love for being loyal then.
Lack of percieved loyalty is an excuse to bag players when its convenient - but dont see loyalty figuring in fans mindset when your team is losing.
**How will we ever lure a player from another club if they all remained loyal??**
We offered Luke a good deal, he accepted good for him and good for us.
How long the warm and fuzzys last depends on how well he plays.

Well that’s true but I loved footy the best when the nucleus of you team was the same for a long time. I supported Balmain and our team in the late 80s we’re together for ages. Same with Canberra, Canterbury, parramatta as I remember. Nowadays you boo a bloke one week and next week he’s in your side. It’s called tribalism and rugby league was built on it. I know it’s a modern game etc etc but think we a poorer for it. (When the thought was Bennett was coming I was thinking: how can I support Darius Boyd?) I value and respect players like Lawrence, Nofa, Farah, Marshall and Brooks. I also respect club men from other clubs. But that’s just me.
Regarding bagging Brooks next year - yeah many will do it (regardless if his form) but I won’t.

Dont disagree with you Steve. Followed Balmain too during that era when players came up through the juniors many as local boys, and never left. And thats the way I liked it.
Just a different game now, and to be successful it seems to be more about recruiting and retaining well - and often from outside your club. Loyalty is admirable for sure, but it wont necessarily make us successful. Glad Brooks extended, but if we are to find some success its his form that will ultimately be the key, rather than his loyalty, and the clubs ability to attract some quality players to support him.

It's an interesting one, because I assume everyone prefers true tribalism and therefore one-club legends.

But if you look over to European soccer, the idea of a long-term player hardly exists, because they are shopped the minute they no longer fulfill their role. And given the very great depth of football globally, there are ALWAYS suitors for different types, styles and ages of professional footballers.

And yet soccer fans are certainly passionate and tribal. So how do they achieve that? It appears to me that there is a doubling-down on the jersey and club rather than the player. The player is basically an employee assigned to help achieve success, but it's the jersey that counts.

Perhaps NRL is in a transition phase between this old-school 80s tribalism and modern professionalism. It's certainly true of the professional elements for players, who are only just now getting full insurance, protection for head injury, higher pay vs TV deals, full-time training and injury management etc. Players in the 80s didn't have anything like this.

And unfortunately as professional standards and supports develop for professional sportspersons, so does the "interchangeability" of players.

And of course salary cap has a lot to do with it as well, and we all agree that you can't remove the salary cap and still expect any kind of even playing field.
 
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I just read on news.com halfback rankings for 2018\. M.Moses came in 12th with the added baggage that he was shopped around and no club wanted him. Article says eels don’t want to renew his contract when it expires.
Meanwhile Brooks signs a multimillion 5 year deal and is developing into a well respected club hero.
As many have said - karma’s a b****!

Who was behind Moses?
 
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Yes and lets see how important loyalty is to fans next year if Luke doesnt perform - can guarantee he wont be feeling the love for being loyal then.
Lack of percieved loyalty is an excuse to bag players when its convenient - but dont see loyalty figuring in fans mindset when your team is losing.
**How will we ever lure a player from another club if they all remained loyal??**
We offered Luke a good deal, he accepted good for him and good for us.
How long the warm and fuzzys last depends on how well he plays.

Well that’s true but I loved footy the best when the nucleus of you team was the same for a long time. I supported Balmain and our team in the late 80s we’re together for ages. Same with Canberra, Canterbury, parramatta as I remember. Nowadays you boo a bloke one week and next week he’s in your side. It’s called tribalism and rugby league was built on it. I know it’s a modern game etc etc but think we a poorer for it. (When the thought was Bennett was coming I was thinking: how can I support Darius Boyd?) I value and respect players like Lawrence, Nofa, Farah, Marshall and Brooks. I also respect club men from other clubs. But that’s just me.
Regarding bagging Brooks next year - yeah many will do it (regardless if his form) but I won’t.

Dont disagree with you Steve. Followed Balmain too during that era when players came up through the juniors many as local boys, and never left. And thats the way I liked it.
Just a different game now, and to be successful it seems to be more about recruiting and retaining well - and often from outside your club. Loyalty is admirable for sure, but it wont necessarily make us successful. Glad Brooks extended, but if we are to find some success its his form that will ultimately be the key, rather than his loyalty, and the clubs ability to attract some quality players to support him.

It's an interesting one, because I assume everyone prefers true tribalism and therefore one-club legends.

But if you look over to European soccer, the idea of a long-term player hardly exists, because they are shopped the minute they no longer fulfill their role. And given the very great depth of football globally, there are ALWAYS suitors for different types, styles and ages of professional footballers.

And yet soccer fans are certainly passionate and tribal. So how do they achieve that? It appears to me that there is a doubling-down on the jersey and club rather than the player. The player is basically an employee assigned to help achieve success, but it's the jersey that counts.

Perhaps NRL is in a transition phase between this old-school 80s tribalism and modern professionalism. It's certainly true of the professional elements for players, who are only just now getting full insurance, protection for head injury, higher pay vs TV deals, full-time training and injury management etc. Players in the 80s didn't have anything like this.

And unfortunately as professional standards and supports develop for professional sportspersons, so does the "interchangeability" of players.

And of course salary cap has a lot to do with it as well, and we all agree that you can't remove the salary cap and still expect any kind of even playing field.
 
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I just read on news.com halfback rankings for 2018\. M.Moses came in 12th with the added baggage that he was shopped around and no club wanted him. Article says eels don’t want to renew his contract when it expires.
Meanwhile Brooks signs a multimillion 5 year deal and is developing into a well respected club hero.
As many have said - karma’s a b****!

Who was behind Moses?

How were the rankings determined? Skills, popularity or who swears at their team mates when they make a mistake? The hatred for Moses is a bit over the top because skill wise he has them. Sure he needs to improve his defence but most of the changes surround his psychological make up. It sounds increasingly like a role for the horse whisperer!
 
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I just read on news.com halfback rankings for 2018\. M.Moses came in 12th with the added baggage that he was shopped around and no club wanted him. Article says eels don’t want to renew his contract when it expires.
Meanwhile Brooks signs a multimillion 5 year deal and is developing into a well respected club hero.
As many have said - karma’s a b****!

Who was behind Moses?

Canberra, warriors, Melbourne.
 
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I just read on news.com halfback rankings for 2018\. M.Moses came in 12th with the added baggage that he was shopped around and no club wanted him. Article says eels don’t want to renew his contract when it expires.
Meanwhile Brooks signs a multimillion 5 year deal and is developing into a well respected club hero.
As many have said - karma’s a b****!

Who was behind Moses?

Canberra, warriors, Melbourne.

Shaun Johnson ranked in the bottom 3?
 
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I just read on news.com halfback rankings for 2018\. M.Moses came in 12th with the added baggage that he was shopped around and no club wanted him. Article says eels don’t want to renew his contract when it expires.
Meanwhile Brooks signs a multimillion 5 year deal and is developing into a well respected club hero.
As many have said - karma’s a b****!

Who was behind Moses?

Canberra, warriors, Melbourne.

Shaun Johnson ranked in the bottom 3?

Any link to the article?
it would be interesting to see how the top halves are ranked
 
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Canberra, warriors, Melbourne.

Shaun Johnson ranked in the bottom 3?

Any link to the article?
it would be interesting to see how the top halves are ranked

I had a look but couldn’t find it, hard to believe the warriors halves would be less ranked than the Eels.

Apologies - it was 5th tackle.com and the rating is for 2019 halves. I don’t know how to post from the Facebook link
 
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I just read on news.com halfback rankings for 2018\. M.Moses came in 12th with the added baggage that he was shopped around and no club wanted him. Article says eels don’t want to renew his contract when it expires.
Meanwhile Brooks signs a multimillion 5 year deal and is developing into a well respected club hero.
As many have said - karma’s a b****!

Who was behind Moses?

How were the rankings determined? Skills, popularity or who swears at their team mates when they make a mistake? The hatred for Moses is a bit over the top because skill wise he has them. Sure he needs to improve his defence but most of the changes surround his psychological make up. It sounds increasingly like a role for the horse whisperer!

He has a horse whisperer

Unfortunately Mitch doesn't talk horse it appears

He is probably isn't too far from earning a award , not sure if the games most overrated player was the one he was hoping for though
 
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I look forward to reading Moses next contract being a 5 year deal worth nearly 3 million dollars.

It's happened, he has signed with Victoria's Secret - they are putting out a new line especially designed for him.
 
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