OFFICIAL Luke Garner [Discussion]

@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240067) said:
We need a fullback that follows all of those plays.

Our fullback was playing five eighth
 
@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240067) said:
We need a fullback that follows all of those plays.

Nofo was playing fullback and was injured in the last 15 minutes. He could barely move. He would have stopped the last try they scored if he was fit.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240029) said:
Another if only thread 😂 .. but I’ll add to it ..

Poor positional play from AJ cost them not Garner

That was my feeling as well. AJ was caught flat footed and was too far back.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240029) said:
Another if only thread 😂 .. but I’ll add to it ..

Poor positional play from AJ cost them not Garner

The run was a whole 25m...couldn't have slowed down..

only thing he could have done is straightened and trampled Gutho ..not his fault... agree
 
@Geo said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240139) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240029) said:
Another if only thread ? .. but I’ll add to it ..

Poor positional play from AJ cost them not Garner

The run was a whole 25m...couldn't have slowed down..

only thing he could have done is straightened and trampled Gutho ..not his fault... agree

It just summed up our season ..
Alcoholic beverages consumed last night ...zero

West’s Tigers hangover ...massive
 
It was the exact same setup as last year vs the sharks in rd25. The exact pass. Its an absolute cracker from Brooks. Only difference is Garner put on a great step to beat the fullback 🙁

That is what we like to see from Brooks - I thought yesterday was his best game of the year. Excellent kicking game and produced a play that should have been the match winner. Crisp pass to Lawrence as well which gave Rowdy that extra bit of time to set up his man (he held it up perfectly as well).
 
@tony-soprano said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240011) said:
@innsaneink said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240005) said:
He didn't even look to his unmarked man to his left... Bombed it as badly as Brooks kick on tackle 1

What was brooks thinking there was no one chasing

I dont know but Benji was crucified for kicking on the 2nd tackle 2 weeks ago against Souths. Have not read much today about Brooks dumb kick on the 1st tackle. Dont tell me he did not hear it because it is a piercing sound at the ground.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240011) said:
@innsaneink said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240005) said:
He didn't even look to his unmarked man to his left... Bombed it as badly as Brooks kick on tackle 1

What was brooks thinking there was no one chasing

He was looking at them and was attempting to signal to them to chase the kick - but they didnt move. Its a shame, he was trying that game to change things up then you have MCK on his right who just stands still.
 
@Madge said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240144) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240011) said:
@innsaneink said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240005) said:
He didn't even look to his unmarked man to his left... Bombed it as badly as Brooks kick on tackle 1

What was brooks thinking there was no one chasing

He was looking at them and was attempting to signal to them to chase the kick - but they didnt move. Its a shame, he was trying that game to change things up then you have MCK on his right who just stands still.

It just highlights our lack of match awareness and urgency. The Storm would have been all over that kick and ask Sterling or Gould the best way to really hammer home an advantage and that is to kick early.
 
@tonza said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240142) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240011) said:
@innsaneink said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240005) said:
He didn't even look to his unmarked man to his left... Bombed it as badly as Brooks kick on tackle 1

What was brooks thinking there was no one chasing

I dont know but Benji was crucified for kicking on the 2nd tackle 2 weeks ago against Souths. Have not read much today about Brooks dumb kick on the 1st tackle. Dont tell me he did not hear it because it is a piercing sound at the ground.

Devils advocate, it was the last tackle if he didn’t see / hear the set restart call.
Probably explained why no one pushed forward expecting it.
Either way execution was poor. But not too much else that game was.
Last night I finally saw the competitive nature that Brooks supposedly has.
 
@Moh said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240037) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240029) said:
Another if only thread ? .. but I’ll add to it ..

Poor positional play from AJ cost them not Garner

Lol no.

Garner had every opportunity to slow down, straighten and hand off to AJ.

In the end it was a good tackle by Gutho, which our regular fullback this season couldn't have made.


hes made a lot of good try savers this year and for souths last year just people on here have short memories and just wanna complain
 
@Strongee said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240104) said:
@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240067) said:
We need a fullback that follows all of those plays.

Our fullback was playing five eighth

Our fullback playing 5/8 doesn’t follow when he plays fullback
 
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240108) said:
@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240067) said:
We need a fullback that follows all of those plays.

Nofo was playing fullback and was injured in the last 15 minutes. He could barely move. He would have stopped the last try they scored if he was fit.

Not a comment on nofo, more that it’s what we have lacked all year.
 
@Geo said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240139) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240029) said:
Another if only thread ? .. but I’ll add to it ..

Poor positional play from AJ cost them not Garner

The run was a whole 25m...couldn't have slowed down..

only thing he could have done is straightened and trampled Gutho ..not his fault... agree

that was the only fault I could put on Garner, that he didnt put the bumpers up and hit Gutherson square. It is something we dont do well, isolating and punnishing playmakers. We need angry, in an big way.
 
Don't blame Garner, wish he had tried a grubber or something however. Possibly could of ended up better.

Good line however, he had a good game.
 
@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240200) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240104) said:
@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240067) said:
We need a fullback that follows all of those plays.

Our fullback was playing five eighth

Our fullback playing 5/8 doesn’t follow when he plays fullback

True , but he wasn’t playing fullback , so hard to judge him when he’s on the other side of the field
 
@Strongee said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240598) said:
@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240200) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240104) said:
@the_third said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240067) said:
We need a fullback that follows all of those plays.

Our fullback was playing five eighth

Our fullback playing 5/8 doesn’t follow when he plays fullback

True , but he wasn’t playing fullback , so hard to judge him when he’s on the other side of the field


He played there most of the year. I can’t recall ever seeing him support the middle.

Easy to judge off a season as opposed to a game
 
@tonza said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240142) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240011) said:
@innsaneink said in [Brooks to Garner](/post/1240005) said:
He didn't even look to his unmarked man to his left... Bombed it as badly as Brooks kick on tackle 1

What was brooks thinking there was no one chasing

I dont know but Benji was crucified for kicking on the 2nd tackle 2 weeks ago against Souths. Have not read much today about Brooks dumb kick on the 1st tackle. Dont tell me he did not hear it because it is a piercing sound at the ground.


That play by Benji ended the season. He's done it a million times and rarely does it come off. Brooks did it in a nothing game. Still it was a terrible choice. He needs to learn not to follow in Benjis footsteps. We need a much better calm head. Not freakish low percentage plays.
 
I think the club is crazy if they let Garner go.
Sure he has had some poor defensive lapses and his lateral defense needs work but he's shown enough in all other areas to suggest he has along NRL career ahead of him.
His front on defense is good and can put a heavy hit on with his shoulder. He runs good lines and has a knack of finding the try line. Plays big minutes too.

He just needs to work on his lateral defense which hasn't helped being outside Marshall and inside BJ. There isn't much cohesion between them in defense.

Luke's defensive issues can be fixed in 1 off season. He is NRL level just needs a bit of polish. I've heard many ex NRL players single him out as one of our best prospects.

I think he's still under 50 NRL games, although 25 years old.
He will only get better. We have to stop giving guys their debuts only to give them the flick a year or two later just as they are around that 50-75 games mark because they aren't considered a complete player at 50 games. We need to be a bit more patient with these types of players.
I know we will regret it when he's carving up at another club.

This will be Ben Teo all over again imo. We discarded him because he had some lateral defense issues and within no time he was a grandfinal winner and international. We all seen his potential but, me included, were too impatient.

If losing Garner gave us a Schuster or similar, then fair enough, but to let Garner go just to free up some salary cap space just stinks of short term opportunity without looking at the long game. The Wests Tigers are the worst in the NRL at letting good players go after we have nurtured them. Please WT, dont make the same mistake with Luke Garner.
 
Just to add, McIntyre is no direct replacement for Garner imo, not yet anyway.
Please don't say he is better than Luke. Only time will tell that. You cant accurately compare them at present.
Yes Sam looks good and has surprised most of us, but he hasn't been tested like Garner has as yet.
Sams only played a handful of games with short minutes and usually a week off in between.
I'm sure he has some flaws too that will be exposed if he was a starter playing 80 minutes week in week out.
He's a keeper too but if the club thinks they can offload Garner and replace him with Sam, then its 2 steps forward, 1 step backwards.
 

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