Maguire lifts lid on player power at Tigers

[JC99]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/02/19/maguire-previews-roosters-trial-match/

Maguire previews Roosters trial match
Wests Tigers Coach Michael Maguire speaks ahead of the club's trial match against the Sydney Roosters at Kirkham Oval.

fibber..

Coaches would never lie to the media would they...?

 

[Geo]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/02/19/four-things-to-watch-in-saturdays-trial-match/

Storylines to follow in tonight's trial!
Michael Blok
Timestamp
Fri 19 Feb 2021, 06:30 PM

**Defence**
**There has been a big emphasis on defence throughout the pre-season,** with Maguire acknowledging it needs improving in 2021 .

Defence may not be the most exciting thing to look out for, but it’s a key component to winning games. Saturday night’s trial match will give the young squad their first chance to prove they’re up to the challenge in season 2021.

 

[jadtiger]

Just having a chat to the partner of one of our assistant coaches (won't say who) but she's saying there's definitely still some problems at the club.

Some players not working together as a team and thinking they can just do their job and not help their team mates, others still questioning coaches at training. Madge has apparently softened up quite a bit since his first year at the club which probably isn't a bad thing nowadays.

Still a couple players that need to be moved on by the sounds of it but overall still heading in the right direction, just still trying to figure out the balance of being tough and keeping the players happy. Hopefully they can sort it sooner rather than later but these new guys seem keen to rip in

Why does the rubbish keep happening here?

It happens at every club not just here.When you have 30 people working in the same organisation you will have friction between them.Coaching staff need to keep on weeding out the ones that dont fit in

 

[TheDaBoss]

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/02/19/four-things-to-watch-in-saturdays-trial-match/

Storylines to follow in tonight's trial!
Michael Blok
Timestamp
Fri 19 Feb 2021, 06:30 PM

**Defence**
**There has been a big emphasis on defence throughout the pre-season,** with Maguire acknowledging it needs improving in 2021 .

Defence may not be the most exciting thing to look out for, but it’s a key component to winning games. Saturday night’s trial match will give the young squad their first chance to prove they’re up to the challenge in season 2021.

Gonna be intresting as the defencr in the saints trial matches were equivalent to bbl fielding

 

[KingRobbie]

Chad Townsend said in a recent podcast that the year he experienced the most in-team fighting and bickering was 2016 when Cronulla won the comp...

 

[crazycat]

Wow, strong words with hidden meaning.

How bad is the club that even Madge is second guessing himself.

Thats normal. He did not make the 8.
If that performance was 'fine' he should be fired immeaditly.

Happy for Madge to second guess himself. That leads to improvement.

 

[Magpieger]

Just having a chat to the partner of one of our assistant coaches (won't say who) but she's saying there's definitely still some problems at the club.

Some players not working together as a team and thinking they can just do their job and not help their team mates, others still questioning coaches at training. Madge has apparently softened up quite a bit since his first year at the club which probably isn't a bad thing nowadays.

Still a couple players that need to be moved on by the sounds of it but overall still heading in the right direction, just still trying to figure out the balance of being tough and keeping the players happy. Hopefully they can sort it sooner rather than later but these new guys seem keen to rip in

Yeah I’ve heard similar, and also the Luciano / Liddle argument at training was not a one off instance, they genuinely don’t like each other

Maybe it's happening in the scrums where Madge can't see the uppercuts, squirrel grips, kicks to the shins and... worst of all... some rather unsavoury, dis-tasteful and hurtful words?

???

 

[rihannafan1]

Players not liking one another isn't anything new. I've played on plenty of successful teams, sometimes been a key player on them and not always gotten along with everyone. If you're winning you overlook it, if you're losing not so much. With that in mind I'm glad there's tension. There should be.

Players don't need to get along with the coach for it to work either. Besides Bennett and Bellamy, how many teams have well-liked coaches? Even Bennett wears out his welcome pretty quick.

 

[JC99]

Players not liking one another isn't anything new. I've played on plenty of successful teams, sometimes been a key player on them and not always gotten along with everyone. If you're winning you overlook it, if you're losing not so much. With that in mind I'm glad there's tension. There should be.

Players don't need to get along with the coach for it to work either. Besides Bennett and Bellamy, how many teams have well-liked coaches? Even Bennett wears out his welcome pretty quick.

Nothing wrong with players disliking each other, problem is that it sounds like they still aren't fully working together and that will be evident in defence at some point.

 

[Geo]

**Players not liking one another isn't anything new. I've played on plenty of successful teams, sometimes been a key player on them and not always gotten along with everyone. If you're winning you overlook it, if you're losing not so much. With that in mind I'm glad there's tension. There should be.**

Players don't need to get along with the coach for it to work either. Besides Bennett and Bellamy, how many teams have well-liked coaches? Even Bennett wears out his welcome pretty quick.

Thanks for this, as I posed a question earlier of whether it's common in Rugby League or not.
I understand results are obviously a team effort but surely the competitiveness would be the best incentive for players to work collaboratively and use to their own advantage - as motivation to improve their own personal game.

It also seems like it would also be easier to identify who's not being accountable or putting in, showing commitment and those sort of things. Or am I completely off the mark in my thinking?
This looks completely healthy to me.
**If I'm honest, the gossiping or bad mouthing about players is uncomfortable and appears somewhat a breach of confidence. Or questionable might be a better use of word.**

Only if you buy into it Lauren..

 

[rihannafan1]

**Players not liking one another isn't anything new. I've played on plenty of successful teams, sometimes been a key player on them and not always gotten along with everyone. If you're winning you overlook it, if you're losing not so much. With that in mind I'm glad there's tension. There should be.**

Players don't need to get along with the coach for it to work either. Besides Bennett and Bellamy, how many teams have well-liked coaches? Even Bennett wears out his welcome pretty quick.

Thanks for this, as I posed a question earlier of whether it's common in Rugby League or not.
I understand results are obviously a team effort but surely the competitiveness would be the best incentive for players to work collaboratively and use to their own advantage - as motivation to improve their own personal game.

It also seems like it would also be easier to identify who's not being accountable or putting in, showing commitment and those sort of things. Or am I completely off the mark in my thinking?
This looks completely healthy to me.
If I'm honest, the gossiping or bad mouthing about players is uncomfortable and appears somewhat a breach of confidence. Or questionable might be a better use of word.

No, I think it happens in all team environments, not just sports. It's very contextual. In some instances it is obvious and others not so much. I'd think it happens at every NRL club. These guys are the very best at what they do. I dunno why they'd choose to listen to coaches who, in most case, have never achieved what they have. Not surprised there isn't buy-in.

And yes, @JC99 , players not getting along could lead to some breakdowns, for sure. But BJ and LL obvs get along and they had some issues last year too. Hard to pinpoint it.

 

[cochise]

**Players not liking one another isn't anything new. I've played on plenty of successful teams, sometimes been a key player on them and not always gotten along with everyone. If you're winning you overlook it, if you're losing not so much. With that in mind I'm glad there's tension. There should be.**

Players don't need to get along with the coach for it to work either. Besides Bennett and Bellamy, how many teams have well-liked coaches? Even Bennett wears out his welcome pretty quick.

Thanks for this, as I posed a question earlier of whether it's common in Rugby League or not.
I understand results are obviously a team effort but surely the competitiveness would be the best incentive for players to work collaboratively and use to their own advantage - as motivation to improve their own personal game.

It also seems like it would also be easier to identify who's not being accountable or putting in, showing commitment and those sort of things. Or am I completely off the mark in my thinking?
This looks completely healthy to me.
If I'm honest, the gossiping or bad mouthing about players is uncomfortable and appears somewhat a breach of confidence. Or questionable might be a better use of word.

Its like any staff in a workplace @lauren Not everyone in a workplace is going to get along but need to work together to get things done.

 

[Geo]

Rob Rowland-Smith (sandhill warrior) was a guest recently at training and was impressed with the current group as they are more united than they have been in the last 5 years..

No ego's and all working for each other..relishing the hard work Maguire is putting in..

 

[Tiger5150]

Rob Rowland-Smith (sandhill warrior) was a guest recently at training and was impressed with the current group as they are more united than they have been in the last 5 years..

No ego's and all working for each other..relishing the hard work Maguire is putting in..

Cool to hear but remember him saying the same things a few years ago under Ivan.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

The feeling directly from the club is that this playing group is responding extremely well to Maguire and that he is a great listener- seeking constant feedback from football staff and senior players. He has been described to me as ‘no different to Bellamy’. All this negative talk is just rubbish. There is no truth to it. We have an aligned team all very focused on success.

 

[Geo]

Rob Rowland-Smith (sandhill warrior) was a guest recently at training and was impressed with the current group as they are more united than they have been in the last 5 years..

No ego's and all working for each other..relishing the hard work Maguire is putting in..


Cool to hear but remember him saying the same things a few years ago under Ivan.

We won 6 from 8 to start that year too..

 

[Geo]

Going of the Trial game looked to me Maguire has the team all rowing in the same direction..all backing each other with plenty of enthusiasm...

A great team with belief can do well over a great team of individuals..

 

[cqtiger]

Going of the Trial game looked to me Maguire has the team all rowing in the same direction..all backing each other with plenty of enthusiasm...

A great team with belief can do well over a great team of individuals..

Agree.
But that’s after a good win. Let’s see if everyone is still happy after a few losses because that is when it counts.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Idk what madge did to packer but man alive he was a delight lol, throughly enjoyed his field goal and dummy half runs

 

[Speed2burn]

Going of the Trial game looked to me Maguire has the team all rowing in the same direction..all backing each other with plenty of enthusiasm...

A great team with belief can do well over a great team of individuals..

There seems to be nothing in that Liddle / Luciano “fued” either

If they hate each other that’s a funny way of showing it - seen them yahooing and hugging each other on more than a few occasions