Maguire seeking stable combinations

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@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280336) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280192) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280168) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280165) said:
Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it


Sad when you think that the first coach extended lasted only another 18 months.

Not Sheens?


Yep
 
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280383) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280336) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280192) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280168) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280165) said:
Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it


Sad when you think that the first coach extended lasted only another 18 months.

Not Sheens?


Yep

I don't get his extension only lasted 18 months. Wasnt he here for about 9 years?
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280159) said:
@Strongee said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280156) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280154) said:
@Strongee said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279974) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279972) said:
@Strongee said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279966) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279960) said:
The combo I’m keen to see develop is Jet & BJ. When they’re on the same side, given clean early ball to BJ. We now have a forward pack to keep defence more compact an get a quick PTB.

They will never be on the same side .It’s not union mate


The really good coaches & players not only know the rules but also know when to break them.
Union? They need to modify that game to bring it into this century.

Sorry mate but What ? That’s not modifying the game mate !That’s returning it to 1980. The fullback and opposite side half , both setup down that side to create the extra man .

The edge back rower and centre run various combinations of lines , to confuse the defence , with the second receiver and fullback creating the width , and variation to create the extra man .
The reason you can’t do what your saying is , if you do , all your backs are on one side and if the play dies , you now have to take a settler and waste a tackle , whilst also allowing the defence to adjust to any advantage you’ve gained on the other side of the field.

Couldn't you do a set scrum move, when you have the feed? You can pack the scrum wherever you want, so we could pack the scrum close to a sideline, and have all the backs line out towards the other side, two centres side by side.

Unorthodox, but just for one play, the opposition wouldn't know what's coming, and could mess up their defence.

I guess . But wouldn’t you stick your other centre on 1 side with his winger , at the very least to engage his opposite number , and keep the forwards in the scrum.
But ok cool there’s definitely 1 that proves me wrong . I took it as general play . Either way , if you did it , you’d have to take a settler afterwards .

Yeah you're right, the settler (if we didn't score) would probably come next.

I like the trick shots though, so I'd try to get the scrum far enough infield from the edge, so that you could stack all the backs on one side BAR one winger (who is one on one with their defender, with the guy at the back of the scrum passing a long pass to him). And give that winger enough space so that they have room to step or try the outside, and use the play again in the future to keep the opposition in even more confusion.

I digress though, you are right, the centres pretty much never are side by side.

You don’t want your winger going anywhere near a sideline on play 1
 
@Strongee said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280156) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280154) said:
@Strongee said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279974) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279972) said:
@Strongee said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279966) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279960) said:
The combo I’m keen to see develop is Jet & BJ. When they’re on the same side, given clean early ball to BJ. We now have a forward pack to keep defence more compact an get a quick PTB.

They will never be on the same side .It’s not union mate


The really good coaches & players not only know the rules but also know when to break them.
Union? They need to modify that game to bring it into this century.

Sorry mate but What ? That’s not modifying the game mate !That’s returning it to 1980. The fullback and opposite side half , both setup down that side to create the extra man .

The edge back rower and centre run various combinations of lines , to confuse the defence , with the second receiver and fullback creating the width , and variation to create the extra man .
The reason you can’t do what your saying is , if you do , all your backs are on one side and if the play dies , you now have to take a settler and waste a tackle , whilst also allowing the defence to adjust to any advantage you’ve gained on the other side of the field.
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> Couldn't you do a set scrum move, when you have the feed? You can pack the scrum wherever you want, so we could pack the scrum close to a sideline, and have all the backs line out towards the other side, two centres side by side.
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> Unorthodox, but just for one play, the opposition wouldn't know what's coming, and could mess up their defence.

Playing centers on the same side sometimes will work. The Dogs and a few other teams used to do this, but were talking the 80's before the Storm's systematic defense. I recall Brisbane used to have Loki Tiquiri and Chris Walker often together on the wing as one would break the line, the other would catch up to them and if 1 gets tackled a quick pass to the other ended in a score. But that's some very fast wingers.

The scrum move I liked was Cronulla's in the grand final. They pack the scrum with Ben barba at the back. Gallen gets the ball and Smith and someone else lines up against Gallen, who passes to Ben Barba! Need I say that Barba outran the Melbourne forwards.

Sheens was the best for those kind of plays. He would be worth hiring just to get the playbook for a try a week. Yet he never got that structure and rebuild right, he managed people well just not the team grit and structure.

anyway Armchair coach signing off.
 
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280388) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280383) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280336) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280192) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280168) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280165) said:
Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it


Sad when you think that the first coach extended lasted only another 18 months.

Not Sheens?


Yep

I don't get his extension only lasted 18 months. Wasnt he here for about 9 years?


I failed to mention “in the last 10 years.”
 
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280406) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280388) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280383) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280336) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280192) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280168) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280165) said:
Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it


Sad when you think that the first coach extended lasted only another 18 months.

Not Sheens?


Yep

I don't get his extension only lasted 18 months. Wasnt he here for about 9 years?


I failed to mention “in the last 10 years.”

I'm with you now, crazy isnt it.
 
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280482) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280406) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280388) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280383) said:
@gallagher said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280336) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280192) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280168) said:
@twentyforty said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280165) said:
Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it


Sad when you think that the first coach extended lasted only another 18 months.

Not Sheens?


Yep

I don't get his extension only lasted 18 months. Wasnt he here for about 9 years?


I failed to mention “in the last 10 years.”

I'm with you now, crazy isnt it.


The lunacy continues. Yes there are some who want the coach gone already.
It’s just not possible to achieve goals by constant change. It’s amazing that so many don’t fully appreciate this basic law of natural order. Harnessing the power of continuity and perseverance will always be better than throwing the baby out with the bath water.
 
@Harvey said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280332) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280246) said:
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280136) said:
Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.

Twal was going great before the injury. I don't think he had fully recovered when he returned.

I'm confident he will be cherry ripe for round 1.

I hope his heart and mind is not elsewhere with his whinging whining mates

Apparently he is very good mates with Doueihi (the Lebanese connection) and I get the impression that Doueihi is a strong WT man. He is keeping the right company.
 
@The_Patriot said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279968) said:
@willow said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279838) said:
Roberts will be reuniting with Maguire following their brief time together at South Sydney in 2012.
“I think having that relationship is the starting point with Jimmy,” Maguire said.
"He knows where he wants to get to and is working hard in that space to achieve it.
"He knows the quality of player he is at his best, it’s just about giving himself the best opportunity week-in-week-out to do that.
"He’s building himself away from footy. **He’s told me he’ll play anywhere, which is always a good start.**

Why has no one picked up on this.

To me that suggest he could move him to the wing to accommodate Mybe at centre. If not Mybe Talau, Momo or Kepoa.

To me @The_Patriot, the most important part of @willow post is the sentence prior to the one you highlighted "He's building himself away from footy".

I take that to mean he has something 'meaningful' to go to once footy has finished. And I reckon that has to be really settling for someone that may have a troubled mind/life, which has to hopefully lead to more consistent performances on the footy field for Wests Tigers.
 
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280544) said:
@The_Patriot said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279968) said:
@willow said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1279838) said:
Roberts will be reuniting with Maguire following their brief time together at South Sydney in 2012.
“I think having that relationship is the starting point with Jimmy,” Maguire said.
"He knows where he wants to get to and is working hard in that space to achieve it.
"He knows the quality of player he is at his best, it’s just about giving himself the best opportunity week-in-week-out to do that.
"He’s building himself away from footy. **He’s told me he’ll play anywhere, which is always a good start.**

Why has no one picked up on this.

To me that suggest he could move him to the wing to accommodate Mybe at centre. If not Mybe Talau, Momo or Kepoa.

To me @The_Patriot, the most important part of @willow post is the sentence prior to the one you highlighted "He's building himself away from footy".

I take that to mean he has something 'meaningful' to go to once footy has finished. And I reckon that has to be really settling for someone that may have a troubled mind/life, which has to hopefully lead to more consistent performances on the footy field for Wests Tigers.

I agree with you there @MAGPIES1963. The sentence before is far more important. Hopefully it means he is sorting out his off field self. That will help for his time after footy but also if he is settled it will help his on field performance as well.
 
I sure would like to see more variation in attack to overcome this defence oriented football.With only 5 tackles to play with normally its all about getting into the oppositions 25 before anyone tries anything.
 
@Magpie1969 said in [Maguire seeking stable combinations](/post/1280498) said:
So do the fans want stability.

Yes I prefer it tbh. What makes me laugh is if madge wants it, he can give it, after all he bloody selects the team. You just have to make a decision madge and give them time.
 
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