Maguire seeking stable combinations

[palms]

The combo I’m keen to see develop is Jet & BJ. When they’re on the same side, given clean early ball to BJ. We now have a forward pack to keep defence more compact an get a quick PTB.

They will never be on the same side .It’s not union mate


The really good coaches & players not only know the rules but also know when to break them.
Union? They need to modify that game to bring it into this century.

Sorry mate but What ? That’s not modifying the game mate !That’s returning it to 1980. The fullback and opposite side half , both setup down that side to create the extra man .

The edge back rower and centre run various combinations of lines , to confuse the defence , with the second receiver and fullback creating the width , and variation to create the extra man .
The reason you can’t do what your saying is , if you do , all your backs are on one side and if the play dies , you now have to take a settler and waste a tackle , whilst also allowing the defence to adjust to any advantage you’ve gained on the other side of the field.


Sorry mate, I’m not really interested in union, was forced to play it for a couple of seasons, but couldn’t be bothered .

I don't think Strongee was talking about union mate.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The combo I’m keen to see develop is Jet & BJ. When they’re on the same side, given clean early ball to BJ. We now have a forward pack to keep defence more compact an get a quick PTB.

They will never be on the same side .It’s not union mate


The really good coaches & players not only know the rules but also know when to break them.
Union? They need to modify that game to bring it into this century.

Sorry mate but What ? That’s not modifying the game mate !That’s returning it to 1980. The fullback and opposite side half , both setup down that side to create the extra man .

The edge back rower and centre run various combinations of lines , to confuse the defence , with the second receiver and fullback creating the width , and variation to create the extra man .
The reason you can’t do what your saying is , if you do , all your backs are on one side and if the play dies , you now have to take a settler and waste a tackle , whilst also allowing the defence to adjust to any advantage you’ve gained on the other side of the field.


Sorry mate, I’m not really interested in union, was forced to play it for a couple of seasons, but couldn’t be bothered .

I don't think Strongee was talking about union mate.

Lol no I wasn’t

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

 

[Lauren]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

I don't see it mentioned too much on here and it's why I was a bit of a fan of his tbh, but losing Matulino also weakened the team's defensive structures.
He topped the NRLs defensive stats last year - at over 96% tackle efficiency and around 93% the year before. IIRC him, Twal and Eisenhuth or Taylor made the top 10. I'm pretty sure Twal was at 3rd or 4th with JTurbo possibly in 2nd.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

I don't see it mentioned too much on here and it's why I was a bit of a fan of his tbh, but losing Matulino also weakened the team's defensive structures.
He topped the NRLs defensive stats last year - at over 96% tackle efficiency and around 93% the year before. IIRC him, Twal and Eisenhuth or Taylor made the top 10. I'm pretty sure Twal was at 3rd or 4th with JTurbo possibly in 2nd.

Another problem we had last season was that players like Twal and Musgrove were not on the park enough.
Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.
Tamou should also add some Defense in the middle.

 

[twentyforty]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

I don't see it mentioned too much on here and it's why I was a bit of a fan of his tbh, but losing Matulino also weakened the team's defensive structures.
He topped the NRLs defensive stats last year - at over 96% tackle efficiency and around 93% the year before. IIRC him, Twal and Eisenhuth or Taylor made the top 10. I'm pretty sure Twal was at 3rd or 4th with JTurbo possibly in 2nd.

I will be very surprised if this team WT are putting together is not 100% water tight defensively. Sure we lost a couple of good defenders in Huth, ET and previously Matulino but James Tamau is one of the best defenders in the nrl. I’m looking forward to Stefano Utoikamanu getting a few games because I believe he will prove to be solid in the defensive line. This is looking like the strongest pack we’ve had imo. Hopefully Nofa will improve his defence.

 

[TigerWest]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

I don't see it mentioned too much on here and it's why I was a bit of a fan of his tbh, but losing Matulino also weakened the team's defensive structures.
He topped the NRLs defensive stats last year - at over 96% tackle efficiency and around 93% the year before. IIRC him, Twal and Eisenhuth or Taylor made the top 10. I'm pretty sure Twal was at 3rd or 4th with JTurbo possibly in 2nd.

Another problem we had last season was that players like Twal and Musgrove were not on the park enough.
Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.
Tamou should also add some Defense in the middle.

I think you are right about Tamou, but I think/hope his biggest asset will be to keep the young blokes heads up in the tough times, to often imo, we seemed to just give in.

 

[twentyforty]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

I don't see it mentioned too much on here and it's why I was a bit of a fan of his tbh, but losing Matulino also weakened the team's defensive structures.
He topped the NRLs defensive stats last year - at over 96% tackle efficiency and around 93% the year before. IIRC him, Twal and Eisenhuth or Taylor made the top 10. I'm pretty sure Twal was at 3rd or 4th with JTurbo possibly in 2nd.

Another problem we had last season was that players like Twal and Musgrove were not on the park enough.
Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.
Tamou should also add some Defense in the middle.

I really didn’t think Musgrove would get re-signed? Must have been busted.?

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

I don't see it mentioned too much on here and it's why I was a bit of a fan of his tbh, but losing Matulino also weakened the team's defensive structures.
He topped the NRLs defensive stats last year - at over 96% tackle efficiency and around 93% the year before. IIRC him, Twal and Eisenhuth or Taylor made the top 10. I'm pretty sure Twal was at 3rd or 4th with JTurbo possibly in 2nd.

Another problem we had last season was that players like Twal and Musgrove were not on the park enough.
Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.
Tamou should also add some Defense in the middle.


I really didn’t think Musgrove would get re-signed? Must have been busted.?

Actually Musgrove signing is a good one for us think he was playing well last season prior to foot injury. Still young at 24 although think older and has some size.

Club supported him when stood down and a good relationship with Madge, the culture at WT i think has improved since Benji's departure and i like having Farah/Lawrence back to train with the team from photos all positive.

 

[JD Tiger]

The combo I’m keen to see develop is Jet & BJ. When they’re on the same side, given clean early ball to BJ. We now have a forward pack to keep defence more compact an get a quick PTB.

They will never be on the same side .It’s not union mate


The really good coaches & players not only know the rules but also know when to break them.
Union? They need to modify that game to bring it into this century.

Sorry mate but What ? That’s not modifying the game mate !That’s returning it to 1980. The fullback and opposite side half , both setup down that side to create the extra man .

The edge back rower and centre run various combinations of lines , to confuse the defence , with the second receiver and fullback creating the width , and variation to create the extra man .
The reason you can’t do what your saying is , if you do , all your backs are on one side and if the play dies , you now have to take a settler and waste a tackle , whilst also allowing the defence to adjust to any advantage you’ve gained on the other side of the field.

Couldn't you do a set scrum move, when you have the feed? You can pack the scrum wherever you want, so we could pack the scrum close to a sideline, and have all the backs line out towards the other side, two centres side by side.

Unorthodox, but just for one play, the opposition wouldn't know what's coming, and could mess up their defence.

 

[JayT]

"Centre potential
On their day, James Roberts and Joey Leilua are among the more destructive centres in the game.

For the Wests Tigers, who have struggled with strike power out wide, the next step is to get them firing."

Or maybe we get our halves to stop running sideways which cuts out the centres all together. The need early fast ball to be able to unlock the attacking potential

Word, you get the ball to them,, they create opportunities.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The combo I’m keen to see develop is Jet & BJ. When they’re on the same side, given clean early ball to BJ. We now have a forward pack to keep defence more compact an get a quick PTB.

They will never be on the same side .It’s not union mate


The really good coaches & players not only know the rules but also know when to break them.
Union? They need to modify that game to bring it into this century.

Sorry mate but What ? That’s not modifying the game mate !That’s returning it to 1980. The fullback and opposite side half , both setup down that side to create the extra man .

The edge back rower and centre run various combinations of lines , to confuse the defence , with the second receiver and fullback creating the width , and variation to create the extra man .
The reason you can’t do what your saying is , if you do , all your backs are on one side and if the play dies , you now have to take a settler and waste a tackle , whilst also allowing the defence to adjust to any advantage you’ve gained on the other side of the field.

Couldn't you do a set scrum move, when you have the feed? You can pack the scrum wherever you want, so we could pack the scrum close to a sideline, and have all the backs line out towards the other side, two centres side by side.

Unorthodox, but just for one play, the opposition wouldn't know what's coming, and could mess up their defence.

I guess . But wouldn’t you stick your other centre on 1 side with his winger , at the very least to engage his opposite number , and keep the forwards in the scrum.
But ok cool there’s definitely 1 that proves me wrong . I took it as general play . Either way , if you did it , you’d have to take a settler afterwards .

 

[twentyforty]

Well Madge certainly needs to improve the overall Defense of the team in actual fact gone backwards last season.
Reason for that was depth within the squad.

Sounds like there will be good healthy competition for spots and a few new players coming in that will add pressure to existing players to improve.

I don't see it mentioned too much on here and it's why I was a bit of a fan of his tbh, but losing Matulino also weakened the team's defensive structures.
He topped the NRLs defensive stats last year - at over 96% tackle efficiency and around 93% the year before. IIRC him, Twal and Eisenhuth or Taylor made the top 10. I'm pretty sure Twal was at 3rd or 4th with JTurbo possibly in 2nd.

Another problem we had last season was that players like Twal and Musgrove were not on the park enough.
Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.
Tamou should also add some Defense in the middle.


I really didn’t think Musgrove would get re-signed? Must have been busted.?

Actually Musgrove signing is a good one for us think he was playing well last season prior to foot injury. Still young at 24 although think older and has some size.

Club supported him when stood down and a good relationship with Madge, the culture at WT i think has improved since Benji's departure and i like having Farah/Lawrence back to train with the team from photos all positive.

Yes, no doubt Musgrove has some talent. It’s great to have some recently retired players training the new boys. Of course their experience is invaluable, and the longer they are around the joint the more value they add, particularly with the continuity of a belief system. It had to happen eventually as the numbers of ex loyal WT players grew. I think Sironen is more active recently as well.

 

[JD Tiger]

The combo I’m keen to see develop is Jet & BJ. When they’re on the same side, given clean early ball to BJ. We now have a forward pack to keep defence more compact an get a quick PTB.

They will never be on the same side .It’s not union mate


The really good coaches & players not only know the rules but also know when to break them.
Union? They need to modify that game to bring it into this century.

Sorry mate but What ? That’s not modifying the game mate !That’s returning it to 1980. The fullback and opposite side half , both setup down that side to create the extra man .

The edge back rower and centre run various combinations of lines , to confuse the defence , with the second receiver and fullback creating the width , and variation to create the extra man .
The reason you can’t do what your saying is , if you do , all your backs are on one side and if the play dies , you now have to take a settler and waste a tackle , whilst also allowing the defence to adjust to any advantage you’ve gained on the other side of the field.

Couldn't you do a set scrum move, when you have the feed? You can pack the scrum wherever you want, so we could pack the scrum close to a sideline, and have all the backs line out towards the other side, two centres side by side.

Unorthodox, but just for one play, the opposition wouldn't know what's coming, and could mess up their defence.

I guess . But wouldn’t you stick your other centre on 1 side with his winger , at the very least to engage his opposite number , and keep the forwards in the scrum.
But ok cool there’s definitely 1 that proves me wrong . I took it as general play . Either way , if you did it , you’d have to take a settler afterwards .

Yeah you're right, the settler (if we didn't score) would probably come next.

I like the trick shots though, so I'd try to get the scrum far enough infield from the edge, so that you could stack all the backs on one side BAR one winger (who is one on one with their defender, with the guy at the back of the scrum passing a long pass to him). And give that winger enough space so that they have room to step or try the outside, and use the play again in the future to keep the opposition in even more confusion.

I digress though, you are right, the centres pretty much never are side by side.

 

[twentyforty]

Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it

 

[twentyforty]

Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it

Sad when you think that the first coach extended lasted only another 18 months.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.

Twal was going great before the injury. I don't think he had fully recovered when he returned.

I'm confident he will be cherry ripe for round 1.

 

[Harvey]

Think Twal needs to lift this season hope he can.

Twal was going great before the injury. I don't think he had fully recovered when he returned.

I'm confident he will be cherry ripe for round 1.

I hope his heart and mind is not elsewhere with his whinging whining mates

 

[gallagher]

Hahaha Madge just became the 2nd coach extended by the club.

Sad isn’t it


Sad when you think that the first coach extended lasted only another 18 months.

Not Sheens?