Manly Inclusive Pride jersey backlash

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I have steered clear of this thread simply because I have my religious beliefs as well as a real old fashioned Catholic upbringing,having said that,I find it rather disrespectful for this to have taken away from our Women of League round which to me embraces the very essence of rugby league the mothers of the players from juniors to seniors,sisters aunties and relations of the female gender...the women are always a big part of our game and deserve a round dedicated to them to celebrate and appreciate everything they do...
I have nothing against gay men or women,they are what they are,however if we really made an effort to celebrate the gay community why not pick a round that has no official dedication and they can sell rainbow flags,caps,t-shirts and other merchandise for people to CHOOSE if they want to buy and support the cause this way we include them in our game while supporting their cause...the owner of Manly should really have consulted fully with the players and others before making the decision on wearing the jumper...trying to force players to wear the jumper only makes him appear to stand over them if they want to be part of the team,their choice was taken away from them and thats why they stood down...
The other part of the argument that teams wear logos of companies that promote betting or drinking are usually sponsors that pay to have the logos on the jumpers and therefore inject monies into the club...did LGBT pay the Manly boss to change the usual and registered Manly jumper...?
Hopefully this is resolved with a favourable outcome for ALL concerned,after all we are human beings that differ greatly from each other BUT finding the level ground to our differences is what makes us the beautiful people we are....
 
show us where the gay man hurt you
No gay man or woman has hurt me.. I have my opinion as do you...I dont think I have been critical to the gay community in my post,I think I even said we can find a way to support their cause...
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Great point, why couldn't the nrl just say wear the jersey if u want or just wear the regular one simple really.
I can understand the NRLs stance on jerseys being the same

You start with allowing a little thing like white or coloured thin stripes....and then it grows... Others clubs want more etc
 
Yeah you definitely could be. Ian Roberts didn't seem too upset by the jersey.

Why can't something both be a cultural positive and sell tickets? Ideally that would always be the case.

You do realise of course that 98% of professional rugby league exists to "fill grandstands and sell tickets"?
If course, My issue is they feign concern over a cause to generate revenue. I just think if Manly really wanted to support the cause then just open the gates and let as many people in for free. Take the hit in the back pocket.
 
No gay man or woman has hurt me.. I have my opinion as do you...I dont think I have been critical to the gay community in my post,I think I even said we can find a way to support their cause...
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Your first sentence implied you haven't posted because you dislike gay people because of your religious views.
 
I can understand the NRLs stance on jerseys being the same

You start with allowing a little thing like white or coloured thin stripes....and then it grows... Others clubs want more etc
True that. Knowing the nrl who knows what clubs would do to gain an advantage.
 
Your first sentence implied you haven't posted because you dislike gay people because of your religious views.
No your wrong,I havent posted because I could see that there would be differing views of the situation,after having read most I could see that many people have their views but also would like to find a way for it to be resolved favourably to all parties..
As for not liking gay men I have a close friend that is gay man as well as a gay lady friend,they do their lives and I do mine and we get on tremendously...
 
That’s taking a sponsor off. The jersey is just the design without the sponsors etc.
Understand what you are saying but one could argue that by removing the rainbow stripes which are basically advertising or representing the Inclusiveness / Pride theme then it would revert to the original white background.

Problem solved, you now have a team of 17 players wearing 17 jerseys of the same design just that 7 of them have the advertising removed just like Money Bill Williams.
 
Understand what you are saying but one could argue that by removing the rainbow stripes which are basically advertising or representing the Inclusiveness / Pride theme then it would revert to the original white background.

Problem solved, you now have a team of 17 players wearing 17 jerseys of the same design just that 7 of them have the advertising removed just like Money Bill Williams.
I’m not arguing the point just trying to explain the NRL rules as they apply now
 
I’m not arguing the point just trying to explain the NRL rules as they apply now
No worries mate, understand exactly what you are saying and I wasn't having a go at you in any way.

The thing is that I just can't help myself when it comes to the NRL, I just feel a need to pull apart their inconsistent rulings and double standards that constantly pop up.

What was it that Turd Greenturd said that time? It was something like "fair but not consistent."

He was certainly right about the not consistent bit but I really struggle to see where the fairness comes into it.
 
Sometimes park football is the most enjoyable to watch and be a part of.
No politics, no agendas, just plain footy with passion, not much finesse or fitness, just old fassioned footy.
I love park footy. Women's football has quality too.

But you have to understand what you are getting into with First Grade.
 
If course, My issue is they feign concern over a cause to generate revenue. I just think if Manly really wanted to support the cause then just open the gates and let as many people in for free. Take the hit in the back pocket.
No, you think they "feign" concern. You don't know this for a fact. Maybe Scott Penn has a dear gay relative or maybe they wanted to honour the contribution of Ian Roberts.

Maybe Manly wanted to be the first club to formally broach the issue.

I'll tell you what is feigned - the feigned indignation that putting on a rainbow jersey overshadows the Women in League round, as if the same people would have been fine with the inclusion jersey had it been any other round.
 
The other part of the argument that teams wear logos of companies that promote betting or drinking are usually sponsors that pay to have the logos on the jumpers and therefore inject monies into the club...did LGBT pay the Manly boss to change the usual and registered Manly jumper...?
That argument does not make sense. Scott Penn injects the most money into Manly, i.e. he owns them. So he can do what he pleases. So if he chooses to do an inclusion jersey, then that's it: Manly are doing an inclusion jersey.

By your argument, if the Paedophile and Recidivist Rapists Association (PARRA) was to sponsor Manly, that's fine, because they are putting monies in?

It is a valid point where one's morality extends to not being able to support, associate or even politely overlook people who have different sexual and gender identities, but be totally fine to have the same association with gambling and drinking. It shows you the strange line where they draw their moral values.

And it's doubly-valid not just on a morality argument, but that such persons often turn to scripture as evidence or support for their position, but again ignoring religious text that speaks out against other issues for which they don't take a stand. E.g. the bible is pretty big on condemning covetousness (e.g. being jealous when you find out another player has a bigger salary than you), warns against drinking too much alcohol, about love / obsession with money.

The good book is also pretty huge on not desiring or having relationships with your neighbour's wife, so I can only assume that footballers will no longer associate with players who are guilty of adultery, or with sexual relations prior to marriage.
 
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