Mateo try?

[Marshall_magic]

it evened up in the wash up …RHINOS try was a try ... mckinnon never figured in the play ... thats just my opinion......but thats rugby league as they say .....

Disagree, McKinnon got in Hohia's line of sight, Hohia eased off the ball (to tackle McKinnon if he picked it up I assume), then McKinnon stopped, and Hino charged onto it. Had Wade not chased the kick through I think Hohia would have defused that kick.

 

[happy_tiger]

Refs are damned if they do and damned if they don't Personally I prefer video ref Lets just get it right as much as possible to stop people complaining

Trouble is the video ref doesn't always get it right either. I much rather the current 2011 practice and if the refs on the field get it wrong occasionally, well I can live with that.

Lot more right than wrong Mike I don't want a grand final stuffed up on a wrong call Especially if we are on the recieving end of the wrong call We have the technology just use it The only major sports that don't use it is soccer And how many screw ups do they have HEAPS

 

[Spartan117]

Big Sports Breakfast crew Including Gary Freeman said it was a try for sure and the warriors were dudded.

 

[tiger4ever]

I dont believe some of you guys refs make mistakes that can turn a game all the time whether its a try or a crucial penalty so whats the problem.

You guys whinge when we lose and when we win you look for reasons why we could have lost.

Get over it the final score was 20-12 thats that.

The tigs have got rorted plenty of times so whats the problem.

Utai first try that was picked up as a forward pass but i was inline with that and it was line ball….A try if you ask me

 

[mike]

Refs are damned if they do and damned if they don't Personally I prefer video ref Lets just get it right as much as possible to stop people complaining

Trouble is the video ref doesn't always get it right either. I much rather the current 2011 practice and if the refs on the field get it wrong occasionally, well I can live with that.

Lot more right than wrong Mike

Evidence?

 

[happy_tiger]

Refs are damned if they do and damned if they don't Personally I prefer video ref Lets just get it right as much as possible to stop people complaining

Trouble is the video ref doesn't always get it right either. I much rather the current 2011 practice and if the refs on the field get it wrong occasionally, well I can live with that.

Lot more right than wrong Mike

Evidence?

well we have 3 mistakes in 2 rounds so far lets see how many they would get wrong if we get rid of video refs altogether as you said . Mike if we get rid of video refs can we still use video evidence to incriminate players for illegal things ie spear tackles high tackles gouging biting etc What is so wrong about trying to get the decision right 99.5 out of 100 when it is so easy to do so If there are mistakes it is usually from bad camera angles

 

[mike]

Trouble is the video ref doesn't always get it right either. I much rather the current 2011 practice and if the refs on the field get it wrong occasionally, well I can live with that.

Lot more right than wrong Mike

Evidence?

well we have 3 mistakes in 2 rounds so far lets see how many they would get wrong if we get rid of video refs altogether as you said . Mike if we get rid of video refs can we still use video evidence to incriminate players for illegal things ie spear tackles high tackles gouging biting etc What is so wrong about trying to get the decision right 99.5 out of 100 when it is so easy to do so If there are mistakes it is usually from bad camera angles

I never said get rid of the video refs, I said I like the current 2011 practice. That is only going up to the video ref when the ref on the field is not 100% sure of the call. In previous years the refs on the field have been using the video ref as a crutch, too afraid to make a decision. I like the spontaneity so far of 2011 season. We are not going endlessly up to the video ref and having to watch 8 replays just to make a call and even then not always getting it right.

I repeat I like the current 2011 practice and if there is an occasional error from the ref on the field making a decision then I can live with that.

 

[happy_tiger]

Ok Mike I will compromise Use your system up until Semis and the all tries get checked after . As I said early on the last thing i want to see is Grand Final screwed up because the refs made a huge blunder Can you live with that ?????????????

 

[redemption]

Lot more right than wrong Mike

Evidence?

well we have 3 mistakes in 2 rounds so far lets see how many they would get wrong if we get rid of video refs altogether as you said . Mike if we get rid of video refs can we still use video evidence to incriminate players for illegal things ie spear tackles high tackles gouging biting etc What is so wrong about trying to get the decision right 99.5 out of 100 when it is so easy to do so If there are mistakes it is usually from bad camera angles

I never said get rid of the video refs, I said I like the current 2011 practice. That is only going up to the video ref when the ref on the field is not 100% sure of the call. In previous years the refs on the field have been using the video ref as a crutch, too afraid to make a decision. I like the spontaneity so far of 2011 season. We are not going endlessly up to the video ref and having to watch 8 replays just to make a call and even then not always getting it right.

I repeat I like the current 2011 practice and if there is an occasional error from the ref on the field making a decision then I can live with that.

Harrigan was always 100% confident - even when he was 100% WRONG!!!

If technology works they should use it!!!

 

[redemption]

I dont believe some of you guys refs make mistakes that can turn a game all the time whether its a try or a crucial penalty so whats the problem.

You guys whinge when we lose and when we win you look for reasons why we could have lost.

Get over it the final score was 20-12 thats that.

The tigs have got rorted plenty of times so whats the problem.

Utai first try that was picked up as a forward pass but i was inline with that and it was line ball….A try if you ask me

I agree 100%!!!

 

[Leroy_The_Tigers_Fan]

The big question that no one has asked is, did Mateo think he score?.
If Mateo had thought he had scored he would firstly have celebrated scoring a try and secondly would have made a move for the ref to send it upstairs.
Referees are only human and so are the video refs, perhaps it should have been awarded to Mateo if someone asked the question but on the other hand when Rhino asked the question he was denied a try.
What goes around comes around.

 

[cunno]

Looks like the nrl is going full circle. In the past referees had to make decisions on their own but after complaints about ref mistakes, technology was brought in to correct that. Refs used the video ref to minimise mistakes, now there is a push for refs to be more decisive and make decisions rather than going to the video ref all the time and yes some mistakes are being made, surprise, surprise. It won't be long until refs are criticised to the point where they go back to the video ref more and more IMO.

 

[mike]

Evidence?

well we have 3 mistakes in 2 rounds so far lets see how many they would get wrong if we get rid of video refs altogether as you said . Mike if we get rid of video refs can we still use video evidence to incriminate players for illegal things ie spear tackles high tackles gouging biting etc What is so wrong about trying to get the decision right 99.5 out of 100 when it is so easy to do so If there are mistakes it is usually from bad camera angles

I never said get rid of the video refs, I said I like the current 2011 practice. That is only going up to the video ref when the ref on the field is not 100% sure of the call. In previous years the refs on the field have been using the video ref as a crutch, too afraid to make a decision. I like the spontaneity so far of 2011 season. We are not going endlessly up to the video ref and having to watch 8 replays just to make a call and even then not always getting it right.

I repeat I like the current 2011 practice and if there is an occasional error from the ref on the field making a decision then I can live with that.

Harrigan was always 100% confident - even when he was 100% WRONG!!!

If technology works they should use it!!!

But the technology doesn't work 100% of the time. In the end the decision is still made by a human and even with the help of all the technology they can still get it wrong.

 

[mike]

Ok Mike I will compromise Use your system up until Semis and the all tries get checked after . As I said early on the last thing i want to see is Grand Final screwed up because the refs made a huge blunder Can you live with that ?????????????

And what will you say when the video ref gets it wrong?

 

[happy_tiger]

Ok Mike I will compromise Use your system up until Semis and the all tries get checked after . As I said early on the last thing i want to see is Grand Final screwed up because the refs made a huge blunder Can you live with that ?????????????

And what will you say when the video ref gets it wrong?

Probably the same thing I will say when referees stuff up and not send upstairs

 

[B_B]

It was a try but Inu's should have been disallowed. He put his foot into touch by 1cm when he was going down the sideline but I only picked that up by pausing IQ so I can't blame the touchy for missing it. Although they did miss Morris going over the sideline by a metre in the GF last year.

P.S Archer is the worst ref in the comp.

 

[mrbates78]

my opinion - it was a try, but i recall the warriors got a dodgy penalty to get them down our end in the 1st place, so i remember thinking at the time justice was served. also, im happy with the rhino no try decision, and i'll give inu the BOTD

 

[you_know_who]

NRL referees boss Bill Harrigan has admitted that a controversial disallowed try to Warriors forward Feleti Mateo should have been awarded but wants whistleblowers to continue backing their own judgment.

Harrigan said that Alan Shortall should have referred the decision on Saturday night to video referee Chris Ward before ruling that Wests Tigers centre Blake Ayshford had grounded the ball in his in-goal in the 14th minute before it came loose and Mateo dived on the scraps.

At the time, the momentum was with the Warriors, who went on to lose the Leichhardt Oval match 20-12, and coach Ivan Cleary later questioned the call.

Advertisement: Story continues below After reviewing the incident, Harrigan agreed that the ball had rolled away before Ayshford planted it but backed Shortall for being decisive.

''He's got it wrong, he didn't ground it,'' Harrigan said. ''But I go back to my instructions to them first off: refereeing is all about confidence, and confidence is making decisions.

''So if you put yourself in the perfect position, and you're 100 per cent certain it's a try or a no try, make the decision.

''What I didn't want to see from the guys is don't be drawing the square to send it up when in your mind you know that it's going to be a green or a red light.''

Harrigan said Shorthall would still be asked to explain how he came to his decision.

''I'll be saying to the referee, 'Mate, what were your thoughts?''' Harrigan added. ''And obviously he's going to say to me, 'I was 100 per cent certain Bill.' And I'm going to say, 'Good, you've made the decision. It was wrong. We've got to live with it.' But I applaud him for being in the right spot.''

The Tigers surged home to win without forwards Bryce Gibbs, Gareth Ellis and Liam Fulton, and coach Tim Sheens hopes all will be available for Saturday night's clash with Canberra at Campbelltown Stadium.

The Raiders are also sweating on the fitness of Test prop David Shillington, who will undergo scans today for a calf injury sustained in Friday night's 20-4 loss to Brisbane, while Brett White returns from suspension and star fullback Josh Dugan (calf) is finally expected to make his first appearance of the season.

 

[innsaneink]

I dont believe some of you guys refs make mistakes that can turn a game all the time whether its a try or a crucial penalty so whats the problem.

You guys whinge when we lose and when we win you look for reasons why we could have lost.

Get over it the final score was 20-12 thats that.

The tigs have got rorted plenty of times so whats the problem.

Utai first try that was picked up as a forward pass but i was inline with that and it was line ball….A try if you ask me

Whats the matter mate?
Cant you discuss aspects of the game you just watched, or do you only like to discuss things that are favourable to your team?
Open your eyes!
Or just keep pretending some things dont happen

I started this thread as an experiment so to speak, I expected a lot of biased posts from posters with tiger goggles firmly fixed….pleased to be surprised and say the majority here are even, level headed and call a spade a spade....and can discuss the game rationally and adult like

 

[tiger4ever]

I dont believe some of you guys refs make mistakes that can turn a game all the time whether its a try or a crucial penalty so whats the problem.

You guys whinge when we lose and when we win you look for reasons why we could have lost.

Get over it the final score was 20-12 thats that.

The tigs have got rorted plenty of times so whats the problem.

Utai first try that was picked up as a forward pass but i was inline with that and it was line ball….A try if you ask me

Whats the matter mate?
Cant you discuss aspects of the game you just watched, or do you only like to discuss things that are favourable to your team?
Open your eyes!
Or just keep pretending some things dont happen

I started this thread as an experiment so to speak, I expected a lot of biased posts from posters with tiger goggles firmly fixed….pleased to be surprised and say the majority here are even, level headed and call a spade a spade....and can discuss the game rationally and adult like

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Lol good one….. ink ok it was a try when i seen it on slow motion but not at the ground where i was.

Some things do happen thats my point ink and what im saying is we got 1 that went our way for a change so whats the big deal its not the blunder of the century is it.

My apologies for you taking it personally.lol