Mathew Lodge

[GNR4LIFE]

If Packer and Lodge had no ability they wouldnt have got a second chance at any club and would not fit in "the culture"
However all can be overlooked/ forgiven for someone who is percieved to be talented.
Until the NRL/ clubs prevent players with criminal offences from playing the game, regardless of talent, dont know how you can make allowances for one over the other
**The defence of Packer is largely related to him wearing our colours**- bet there are plenty of other supporters from other clubs who are not so understanding or forgiving.

Absolutely. The ironic thing is that most were against him when he was linked to us, but predictably, people were always going to mellow towards him. I defend him, but I defended him before he signed, so I don’t count :smiley:

 

[Telltails]

If Packer and Lodge had no ability they wouldnt have got a second chance at any club and would not fit in "the culture"
However all can be overlooked/ forgiven for someone who is percieved to be talented.
Until the NRL/ clubs prevent players with criminal offences from playing the game, regardless of talent, dont know how you can make allowances for one over the other
**The defence of Packer is largely related to him wearing our colours**- bet there are plenty of other supporters from other clubs who are not so understanding or forgiving.

Absolutely. The ironic thing is that most were against him when he was linked to us, but predictably, people were always going to mellow towards him. I defend him, but I defended him before he signed, so I don’t count :smiley:

Yep - and I admit I wasnt so keen - but it is hard to argue that the NRL has not been significant in him getting back on track and that has to be a good thing.
It would be great if all offenders could turn it around like he has.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think there's a massive difference between two blokes having a stoush late at night around the pubs, which involved a fist fight that went way too far. To lodges scenario of throwing out insane death threats, breaking and entering and attacking random people in their home. Including women and kids.

lol… Are you trying to say if the pussy Packer beat up ran inside his home and locked the doors, Packer wouldnt of tried to knock his door down???

Your Dreamin!

Lol
*hic*
Sleep.it.off

not while the hypocrites are spruiking there moral high ground.

You can't have it both ways , we get rid of the no DH policy (which you agree with ) and then claim we are spruiking the moral high ground

If Lodge can get through 12 months of NRL without him dragging Benny out the back of Red Hill , running through Cooparoo and ripping the place apart some might cut him some slack

I'd love to see Lodge interviewed in regards to everything by someone , I hear he is hurried away from cameras at Red Hill in case he has another meltdown

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I think that legal action is being launched against him in Oz - could be for money. Over the years I hope he can and is forced to pay the fine

 

[Demps]

Imagine a front row paring of;
Nathan Brown & Matt Lodge though.
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Tough.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I think that legal action is being launched against him in Oz - could be for money. Over the years I hope he can and is forced to pay the fine

The NRL have been involved in helping Lodge find a settlement, as they want to see some sort of contribution to it.

 

[TrueTiger]

I have no sympathy for Lodge or anyone else who gets themselves in severe trouble from drinking grog,particularly these days with so much help available to get you on the right track,but,I think the issue is that they are high profile players in a high profile sport that excuses are made for them so they can play the game because of their ability and talent…
However,in Packers defense he has at least made a concerted effort to turn his life around and has shown remorse for his injustices..Like him or not,credit must be given for his facing up to his mistakes and addressing them..
Lodge on the other hand hasn't shown remorse and hasn't proven he can turn his life around yet...this is entirely up to him..
As far a criminal acts go and people who have been in gaol shouldn't play nrl,could be viewed as being discriminating,do the crime do the time scenario...
It reminds me of the time back in the 80s when our local football team had 2 players that were in a nearby gaol play for them,they were allowed out on day leave to play...both were very capable players...they both fully abided by the rules of their day pass and you couldn't have gotten 2 better blokes as people,they to were paying the penalty for their injustices and were redeeming themselves..
In all,not everybody is the same,some people better themselves and some keep re-offending,where do we draw the line...

People must be held accountable for their own actions in what ever form that is...it is up to them to chose their path in life....
I hope Lodge does become a better person ....its up to him..

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Imagine a front row paring of;
Nathan Brown & Matt Lodge though.
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Tough.

Tough in what way though? Both have shown that they couldn't fight their way out of a pavlova. I'd prefer a front row of RCG and Josh McGuire. Or Packer and Matulino!

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

Even after Lodge committed his atrocities in NY he then went on to assault his Girlfriend, something that the NRL & the Broncos were aware of and gave the green light to, Gees Old Uncle Wayne the Love Rat has some pull at the Ivory Towers that run the game.

 

[Marshall_magic]

I believe everyone deserves a second chance, however the Lodge circumstances are a little different for me. The NRL should make a part of his registration to submit a plan of paying what he owes to this family. By making it a non-issue he will not be made to feel accountable for his actions and will probably play up again.

To compare to Packer, he did his time, and (believe it or not) may have learnt something from the experience. If Packer messes up again with us then I would be disappointed if the club did not release him.

 

[NT_Tiger]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-05/matthew-lodge-incident-horrifying-says-nrl-gender-adviser/9510634?section=sport

 

[strrretch]

How unusual, A young bloke with alcohol and relationship problems . Even more strange….holier than thou hypocrites baying for blood. A "family" trying to gouge monetary "compensation" . Hope the guy gets on well with his life and the crap blows up in the face of his persecutors

 

[Bee-Em]

Yes seen the story and footage on ABC last night, very ugly drunken thuggery at its best. We all do stupid things when we are full of grog, but locking himself in a room with a woman and child scaring the life out of them is ridiculous, the fellow should be ashamed.

 

[supercoach]

This campaign against Lodge is disgraceful. There is no difference between the Matt Lodge incident and Russell Packer's. Both have committed horrendous crimes, both have faced punishment, and both have been given another chance by the NRL. If you are cheering for Packer next Saturday, you should also accept Matt Lodge back into the game of Rugby League.

I hope he rips in, behaves and has a great year!

No comparison at all. One served a full sentence, demonstrated remorse to the victim, took ownership of his crime and fulfilled everything the court asked him to do.

Mr Lodge I am afraid has shown no remorse to the victims and has not followed the court order.
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[sheer64]

How unusual, A young bloke with alcohol and relationship problems . Even more strange….holier than thou hypocrites baying for blood. A "family" trying to gouge monetary "compensation" . Hope the guy gets on well with his life and the crap blows up in the face of his persecutors

Wow, Pell may need you as a character witness.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

This campaign against Lodge is disgraceful. There is no difference between the Matt Lodge incident and Russell Packer's. Both have committed horrendous crimes, both have faced punishment, and both have been given another chance by the NRL. If you are cheering for Packer next Saturday, you should also accept Matt Lodge back into the game of Rugby League.

I hope he rips in, behaves and has a great year!

No comparison at all. One served a full sentence, demonstrated remorse to the victim, took ownership of his crime and fulfilled everything the court asked him to do.

Mr Lodge I am afraid has shown no remorse to the victims and has not followed the court order.
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Firstly, Packer didnt serve a full sentence. He was paroled on good behaviour 1/2 way through. Lodge served his sentence and demonstrated remorse and did as per the criminal conviction asked exactly as Packer did. While the punishment was different, both committed their crime and served their punishment.

The outstanding monetary order is a civil matter as the familys took him to court after his conviction. I wouldnt be paying it yet either. I'd say he will be successful in negotiating a settlement at half the value if he drags it out long enough. The only difference between the 2 scenarios is Packer was not subject to civil action as the victim chose not to persue the matter of compensation.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

How unusual, A young bloke with alcohol and relationship problems . Even more strange….holier than thou hypocrites baying for blood. A "family" trying to gouge monetary "compensation" . Hope the guy gets on well with his life and the crap blows up in the face of his persecutors

Gday Lodgey, how you doing?! What a load your post is.
Absolutely, plenty of young blokes have alcohol and/or relationship problem. What is not so common is young blokes with alcohol and relationship problems belting their missus and going on idiotic rampages threatening strangers with "tonight is the night you die" and terrorizing young kids. How someone defends this maggot's actions astounds me TBH.
Perhaps if it happened to your family you would see the reality in it all. Hope he breaks his hip on Thursday night and then gets forced to pay the whole amount of money owed to the innocent victims of this crime. Human waste.

 

[supercoach]

This campaign against Lodge is disgraceful. There is no difference between the Matt Lodge incident and Russell Packer's. Both have committed horrendous crimes, both have faced punishment, and both have been given another chance by the NRL. If you are cheering for Packer next Saturday, you should also accept Matt Lodge back into the game of Rugby League.

I hope he rips in, behaves and has a great year!

No comparison at all. One served a full sentence, demonstrated remorse to the victim, took ownership of his crime and fulfilled everything the court asked him to do.

Mr Lodge I am afraid has shown no remorse to the victims and has not followed the court order.
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Firstly, Packer didnt serve a full sentence. He was paroled on good behaviour 1/2 way through. Lodge served his sentence and demonstrated remorse and did as per the criminal conviction asked exactly as Packer did. While the punishment was different, both committed their crime and served their punishment.

The outstanding monetary order is a civil matter as the familys took him to court after his conviction. I wouldnt be paying it yet either. I'd say he will be successful in negotiating a settlement at half the value if he drags it out long enough. The only difference between the 2 scenarios is Packer was not subject to civil action as the victim chose not to persue the matter of compensation.

Dont buy your argument at all, but if he turns his life around as well as Packer and his victims get what they are owed, his re registration will be a good thing

 

[Silentio]

Fair dinkum.

Suddenly assaulting a fully grown footy player outside a nightclub is the same as busting into a stranger's home, smashing it up, making death threats to a kids and getting arrested at gunpoint?

Both are disgusting (one clearly more so) but we need to draw a line somewhere.

The line should have been drawn at Matt Lodge.

We have now set a messed up precedent for future bad behavior.

The heat should be applied directly at none other than Uncle Wayne Bennett.

Signing Lodge on the cheap was a desperate act from an increasingly desperate bloke who is struggling and should have retired a few years ago.

 

[Guest]

Fair dinkum.

Suddenly assaulting a fully grown footy player outside a nightclub is the same as busting into a stranger's home, smashing it up, making death threats to a kids and getting arrested at gunpoint?

Both are disgusting (one clearly more so) but we need to draw a line somewhere.

The line should have been drawn at Matt Lodge.

We have now set a messed up precedent for future bad behavior.

The heat should be applied directed at none other than Uncle Wayne Bennett.

Signing Lodge on the cheap was a desperate act from an increasingly desperate bloke who is struggling and should have retired a few years ago.

Agree, Lodge can count himself lucky to be alive to be perfectly honest.