Matterson the Grub

[Guest]

Alright. I've deleted enough posts in this otherwise stupid thread. Some people need to think before they post and most importantly, stick to the topic for a change. The alternative is I close the thread.

 

[Tiger5150]

I’m not supporting the whole Westy things in this thread but what I am going to support is that parramatta, the club and management and a lot (not all) of the supporters are putrid.
I came through the grades from U6 at Wenty, played rep at parra and trialed for a contract before realisation that I wasn’t good enough. all the time supporting the tigers! I have recently had my sons go thought to u17 in the area as well.
The amount of crap that went on during that time makes a sordid soap opera look good. I can’t compared to other clubs but the club and its staff and some supporters are scum.
If another member of my family wants to play I would heartily and strongly suggest they go somewhere else, anywhere else.
Just my opinion.

Im not sure if this happens everywhere, but a young kid bought my wifes car a couple of years ago. Nice kid, he was a junior rep at Parra (wish I could remember his name) and he wanted to go to the Tigers, Tigers wanted him, Parra said he could go but had to pay a massive transfer fee (my memory was something like $5k -$10K).

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Just about had my fill of first MM and now this clown throwing crap at the Tigers. Disrespectful dickheads.

What is is with Parra, is there no-one there in their management telling them to zip it.

The club is a cess pool , run by bogan , scum. It’s seriously a “westy” thing . (I grew up in that district) . Everything is everyone else’s fault at all times , and when it’s your fault it’s because someone else did it so why can’t you or because why shouldn’t you ? When’s it your turn ? Lol.
I know people are going to come at me , but that’s what I’ve noticed in my years . It’s not everyone who’s in the west, but those who have the “westy” mentality.
And Parra seem to have a culture of that . Both the board , the players , the fans , it’s never cause they’re dodge as all stuff , but because of some conspiracy or whatever.

Maybe you would be better off not supporting a club from an area you clearly have no respect for?

No mate , I grew up there . I’m not trying to offend people . Would it be better if I called the “what mate” mentality . Of which I’ve seen a lot where I grew up . And less in other places.
Life was tough for us all growing up, I’m not saying I don’t understand where it comes from , but it does exist .

What rubbish mate, you claimed the Westy mentality is to blame other people. I didn't grow up here but what a disgusting post.

What are you talking about ? I said it was a mentality that we called the westy mentality . Maybe it’s an offensive name. In which case I apologise.
But I saw it a lot where I grew up . And I see it a lot still from many of the same people , some of which are my family and friends of . If you think I’m wrong . Then that’s your opinion. Maybe call it “chip on your shoulder” or whatever you want to call it .
Actually read what I said instead of assuming i have bad intentions. Because I don’t . It’s an observation. Maybe I’m wrong . Maybe I’m stereotyping. It’s an unpopular opinion ! I get it . But just because it hurts peoples feelings doesn’t mean I’m wrong.

Those sort of people are everywhere mate, you can't attribute it to a geographic area and then be surprised when people call you out on it. I read what you said, you literally said that it is the Westy mentality to blame others and when that doesn't work to say everyone else does it too. I think what you said is crap, I'm not offended by it at all, I didn't even grow up in Sydney.

Ok cool mate , I don’t understand how can you say I’m wrong , if you didn’t grow up out in those areas.
Like I said , it’s an unpopular opinion , but I spend a lot of time in these areas associating with people for work , and I grew up there .
I also lived in the lower North shore for a few years , and found there was a lot of pomp and really obnoxious, entitled behaviour out there . Is anyone going to be offended by that ?
There is clear personality traits for every area.
In Darwin, when I lived there, there was a clear lack of effort into most things .
In Melbourne there was a real friendly cosmopolitan vibe , when I was there . But very artsy and extremely left centred . Yet this undercurrent of racism , which didn’t make sense.
When I was in goldy , there was a real , what about the Jones’ vibe , this sense of pretending you needed to be better .
Areas have identities . And personality traits. Both good and bad . I just pointed out a bad trait of the west , and people act offended .

Because I live here now? I'm sorry I'm not arrogant or judgmental enough to judge people on the areas they come from, I judge people on how they act and then I attribute those attributes to that person, not the area they are from. That does a diservice to those communities and makes it extremely hard for the youth from those areas to break stereotypes that are developed against them.

You obviously like to make assumptions about areas based on the people you meet, to the point of stating that Melbourne has an undercurrent of racism, despite you stereotyping people on where they grew up or live.

LOL ok mate . I’m arrogant for stating observations I made in places I lived . Melbourne is my favourite city in Australia. Full of amazing people Can I say everyone I grew up with looks to be killing it , and seems to be genuinely great human beings. Darwin has lots of chill people , really good to hang out with .
Stop grandstanding.its an observation. One based on a lifetime of living in certain areas. And a personality trait I see is very common.
You’re not even from there , just because you have a postcode there doesn’t mean you’re even what I’m talking about.

Not saying you are talking about me, couldn't care less if you were. I've worked in areas all my life where kids have had to overcome stupid stereotypical rubbish like your post just because of the area they grew up in.

I'm not grandstanding as I said I don't judge people based on where they are from, for example I don't need to know where someone is from to know that someone who makes assumptions about the personalities of people based on the area they are from is a tool.

LOL . Whatever dude . I’m not name calling you. I’ve tried to explain my point of view , based on a lifetime of viewing it.
Also I was one of those kids. And it wasn’t until people pointed it out , that I realised what it was.
So you can say what you want , I’ll base my opinions on the people I grew up with , the area I lived , the stories I heard , the attitudes that were portrayed and the general vibe that existed.

Yeah, at least I'm judging my opinion of you on your actions and not on my observations of where you are from.

What actions ? You’re way too defensive. I knew people would be.
As if you don’t form opinions of areas you go into ,whether they’re good or bad. It’s a natural threat response. You’re biologically wired to do this. I’ve just been able to generalise my opinions based on my experiences into a few words. Does it mean that’s all I have to say about them . No . It’s a brief description for arguements sake. Did I enjoy growing up in the west . Nope . It was a tough hard environment. 2 kids were killed at my school the following years of me leaving. One hanging herself the other a stabbing. And many people had the attitude I described earlier .

With you stating what you do with yourself , I would have thought you would have understood how and why , I can make these observations. I’m guessing you’re a counsellor or teacher.
So you know that kids from a certain upbringing are intrinsically more adept at threat evaluation. So they almost have a sixth sense , for being able to assess people , because you know , they have to . To keep safe . Do you think that goes away with age ? It doesn’t . It changes through time. Hopefully for the better.

Yeah I've taught in some of the supposedly hardest areas of Sydney, I have found many wonderful families in those areas that would do anything for you. The kids I taught are all different and I wouldn't stereotype any of them based on being from a certain area, I wouldn't have lasted in my job if I did.

Now you weren't talking about the safety of Western Sydney, you were accussing the people of Western Sydney of blaming others for their problems or acting in a bad way because of the excuse that others do to. That is simply rubbish mate so don't try and say its a defense mechanism, it was simply you looking down on the area, don't coat it as something else.

I'd also like to state that suicide does not make an area unsafe, I grew up in an area where the amount of people my age that I knew that committed suicide can't be counted on one hand, including 3 close friends. The area is not an area people would consider unsafe, it is just a country area that doesn't have the opportunities of other areas.

??? Defence mechanism ? Ah ,no mate . I’m sorry dude , the reason I haven’t replied in anger , is I believe you’re coming from a good place and have misunderstood my point .
I , ME, WE , US , called it the “westy mentality” doesn’t mean it’s in everyone . We talked about it growing up. I spent many times having conversations with people about it . I find it baffling how a guy who clearly only ever is peering through the looking glass , can claim a sense of superiority on this subject.
Especially when you rationalised my previous post to “defence mechanism” . It’s not a defence mechanism dude . It’s a skill forged through hardship.
Also the original post is an observation about how people justify their poor actions , with selfish reasoning. I called it “westy mentality” , because that’s where the concept came from . We were observing about ourselves . You’ve turned it into an attack on the west because it has “westy” as its title . But it’s a critique on anyone who has it . And it’s a true observation.

Hey mate, maybe after my long day I took your post in the wrong way, just didn't like your use of westy to describe a fault with people. I apologise if I took it the wrong way.

Nah it’s fine , that’s why I apologised straight away , back like 10 posts ago. I should have chose better wording. The rest was me trying to explain myself through text, which was getting lost because of lack of tone .
But my point about Parra is ? true . That club for whatever reason , just doesn’t have a good track record for doing the right thing. They didn’t when I was a kid ,through participating in thier system ,and they don’t now as an adult , whilst observing as a rival fan .
It’s stuff like this , is why I was so against the Harry grant stuff . I just don’t want to support a club who runs like that. Even if it is like that in the background .

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Every time i watch Parra play i hope for ACL injuries to MM & RM, i know i shouldnt but i cant help it.

 

[NT_Tiger]

I have turkeys. Sometimes they drop a big green slimy excrement near the verandah. Next time I step in it, I have a new name for it.

 

[Russell]

Doesn'tMatterson - he is just a sooky little boy!

 

[Tiger_Steve]

This seemed like a good thread to read if there was anything left to actually read.

 

[cochise]

This seemed like a good thread to read if there was anything left to actually read.

Sorry I had one of my rants lol, I'm in that sort of mood tonight.

Sorry everyone

 

[Tiger_Steve]

This seemed like a good thread to read if there was anything left to actually read.

Sorry I had one of my rants lol, I'm in that sort of mood tonight.

Sorry everyone

Was more a comment about the censorship lol

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

lol I still remember this guy's first interview in Parra colours. He stumbled through the entire thing, trying to say things like "can't wait to rip in with the boys" with no genuineness about it.

 

[hobbo1]

lol I still remember this guy's first interview in Parra colours. He stumbled through the entire thing, trying to say things like "can't wait to rip in with the boys" with no genuineness about it.

He needs a smack in the mouth ...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

lol I still remember this guy's first interview in Parra colours. He stumbled through the entire thing, trying to say things like "can't wait to rip in with the boys" with no genuineness about it.

He needs a smack in the mouth ...

Hopefully Mikaele obliges.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Who's Matterson? Was he the bloke that was here for 5 minutes? Don't give him any oxygen.

Agree that Matterson should not be commenting on players from the Tigers when he did not see out his contract with us. Just sour grapes, does not play for us now and a fair player at Parramatta but does not stand out like at the Tigers.

It was reported that he felt that Madge had made him play injured in some games last season and was not concerned for his welfare?
Well as long as i have known most players especially at the back end of the season are playing busted so that makes nil logic.

When he played for us he was one of our better performing players that season and can't faulty his effort.
However with that in mind his contract for this year would have been $350k and following $425k and considering what are paying others he would of been more likely thinking i can get paid more at Parramatta and go closer to winning a comp.
In reality he went to them on a 3 year deal worth 1.5 Million.

The lesson out of all this for the Tigers is stop paying players over the odds and have a more even balanced side in relation to payments. I think in this instance the Tigers had salary cap pressure and could also not pay what he wanted as a upgrade nevertheless they still stood there ground.

Personally i would like to adopt a policy that No player is paid over 10% of the current player salary cap of 9.5 Million.
That way agents know that asking anything above will not be considered.

There should also be a Win/Loss pool shared between all players selected say $500,000 per season based upon 20 games this season $35k Win $15k Loss.
Main 13 selected 100% of win pool / Bench players 75%

Lastly hear there chasing Kieran Foran (Bulldogs) must be linked to Madge's involvement with the Kiwi side, I don't really have any opinion apart from as long as we don't pay overs.

 

[sleeve]

NRL idea.All contracts between club and player deemed null and void if player does not play 1st grade for 6 rounds.This would benifit both parties,.The malingerers on big bucks could be moved on and players not given a chance are not hamstrung from moving on.We have to many players at all clubs on big contracts and not earning their money.Either club or player can make the call.

 

[cochise]

NRL idea.All contracts between club and player deemed null and void if player does not play 1st grade for 6 rounds.This would benifit both parties,.The malingerers on big bucks could be moved on and players not given a chance are not hamstrung from moving on.We have to many players at all clubs on big contracts and not earning their money.Either club or player can make the call.

No

 

[Geo]

NRL idea.All contracts between club and player deemed null and void if player does not play 1st grade for 6 rounds.This would benifit both parties,.The malingerers on big bucks could be moved on and players not given a chance are not hamstrung from moving on.We have to many players at all clubs on big contracts and not earning their money.Either club or player can make the call.

Sweet..we can get Tom Trbojevic in 7 weeks..

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

This Grub has been given 6 pages on this thread. He deserves nothing nil zip let's move on to more important things

 

[05TIGZZ]

How good is Brad Fittler, pretty much telling Matterson to shut his mouth and not worry about the tigers.

 

[Aubanon]

The goose had a sook in the lead up to the cronulla game last year coz the coach forced him to train with the flu.

Yet there were others doing everything to play (EG Robbie with a fracture in his leg)

 

[Tiger_Steve]

How good is Brad Fittler, pretty much telling Matterson to shut his mouth and not worry about the tigers.

What was said?