Mick enters a lion's den

Gary_Bakerloo

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**Mick Potter may have just entered rugby league's version of the ninth circle of hell**
MIDWAY through the unveiling of Mick Potter as the new coach of the Wests Tigers, chief executive Stephen Humphreys was asked if Potter had been the first choice.

Talk about a loaded question. Potter was stunned.

"How can you ask that question?" he said with a grin, looking at other reporters. "I'm sitting right here. I've got feelings."

Welcome to the jungle, baby. While Potter might have been the best available choice, he may well have been asked if the Tigers were his first choice.

A talented but underachieving side, with headstrong players in Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah having too much to say, with a board apparently split right down the Balmain-Wests divide, and a footy club rumoured to be struggling financially.

Throw in the increasingly messy imbroglio with Tim Sheens and you wonder if Potter had just entered rugby league's version of the ninth circle of hell.

Fortuitously, he's seen far worse. In July, Potter was made redundant as head coach when the Bradford Bulls were placed into receivership.

Those close to him told him to abandon the Super League and return to Australia, yet Potter stayed on, without pay.

"You start a job, you finish it," he said.

Potter then guided the Bulls to the brink of their first play-off spot for four years, despite the dire financial predicament.

"I think I served above and beyond what I needed to do there," Potter said yesterday. "I felt obliged to do that. It has made me a better coach. The reasons I want to coach aren't financial but because you love the game.

"You love to teach players some things and you love to test the players out and get the best out of them."

Humphreys flatly disputes the Tigers have financial issues, although they remain unprepared - or unable - to pay out the rest of Sheens' contract, which is close to $1 million.

Potter will also be one of the lowest paid coaches in the NRL on a deal said to be worth about $250,000 a season.

Sheens returns from annual leave next week and the Kangaroos coach seems unlikely to accept the offer of a development role.

"That ball is in his court at the moment," Humphreys said of Sheens' future. "As you know, we remain keen for Tim to play a senior role with us overseeing our development activities. Tim is considering that as well as some other possibilities. We continue to talk."

Asked if it was tenable to have Sheens stay on, with Potter now driving the bus, Humphreys said: "I think it can. It wouldn't want to be a role looking over Mick's shoulders. It's a completely separate role in our business that I have talked about. That will be up to Tim.

"I would hope and expect that Tim and Mick would have some dialogue about the team. We would be foolish not to try to tap Tim's experience here in that regard. At the same time I know Tim would want to give Mick all the space he needs to get on with his job."

Despite the uncertainly, the upshot for Potter is that he's being paid for this one.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
A talented but underachieving side, with headstrong players in Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah having too much to say, **with a board apparently split right down the Balmain-Wests divide**, and a footy club rumoured to be struggling financially.

I have posted this article here as I assume this is the correct part of the forum to discuss the quote in **bold**.

Without getting into what happened in 1999 etc - what is happening now? Surely someone can put some facts around the following questions:

What is causing the divide at Board level?
Will the divide be ongoing?
Where is the divide? Who are the "combatants"?
Could it kill the merger?

It would be great to have a frank and honest discussion about these issues.
 
Well note the word "apparently". For all this supposed crap about division Potter seemed to be the top pick throughout the process despite what Matt Parish and his supporters tried to suggest. The "delay" as such seemed to be more about the Sheens payout and the need for formal approval.

As for any other issues they were able to get the WT NSW Cup through. There may be some tensions (nearly all boards have them - Manly's seems disfunctional at times) but I see no real evidence of a division that interferes with the running of the club.
 
I can add - its 50% wests group (not really 50% western suburbs

50% owned by Balmain FC

50% owned by Wests group

3/5 Wests Ashfield
1/5 Magpies FC
1/5 Wests Campbelltown

The wests group have been divided in the past but are more 'united'. There is friction like any board but dont know what exactly would have divided them this time.

What is of issue is the financial situation of Balmain and how that may affect WT in the future (ownership) Wests Ashfield could buy out Balmain's share but that does not mean WT reverts back to Wests Magpies.
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@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
A talented but underachieving side, with headstrong players in Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah having too much to say, **with a board apparently split right down the Balmain-Wests divide**, and a footy club rumoured to be struggling financially.

I have posted this article here as I assume this is the correct part of the forum to discuss the quote in **bold**.

Without getting into what happened in 1999 etc - what is happening now? Surely someone can put some facts around the following questions:

What is causing the divide at Board level?
Will the divide be ongoing?
Where is the divide? Who are the "combatants"?
Could it kill the merger?

It would be great to have a frank and honest discussion about these issues.

What is causing the divide at Board level? _Humpty said on the Fox media conference that the board was unanimous in it's decision to appoint Mick Potter._

Will the divide be ongoing? _I have no doubt the WT board will do what is in the best interests of the Wests Tigers… even if it means killing of it's parents. I would hate to think that all board members would agree on everything. The more ideas and opinions the better._

Where is the divide? Who are the "combatants"? _Probably at football club level and those wanting the old school way instead of the Wests Tigers way._

Could it kill the merger? _The Wests Tigers is a powerful brand. The only thing that could kill of the merger is if the ARLC stopped the funding imo. Leagues club funding should be a thing of the past in coming years. I can see in the next 5-10 years both Balmain and Wests football clubs fading away and replaced with the WTDRLFC... whether that includes both junior districts is something that will probably be out of WT control._
 
@Yossarian said:
Well note the word "apparently". For all this supposed crap about division Potter seemed to be the top pick throughout the process despite what Matt Parish and his supporters tried to suggest. The "delay" as such seemed to be more about the Sheens payout and the need for formal approval.

As for any other issues they were able to get the WT NSW Cup through. There may be some tensions (nearly all boards have them - Manly's seems disfunctional at times) but I see no real evidence of a division that interferes with the running of the club.

I thought the ''delay'' was them ensuring they made the right choice. :neutral_face:
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Attn MTD!
Below is an example of a man giving his word:

@Mick Potter said:
"You start a job, you finish it," he said."
 
Yep. Read this earlier. It's probably a fair call. We're a club in a bad state right now and as much as Humphreys tries to deny it, he's not exactly being open and candid. Potter though is experienced enough to know he's got enough on his plate to let that bother him. His only focus needs to be football team. The rest will sort itself out.
 
@innsaneink said:
@Yossarian said:
Well note the word "apparently". For all this supposed crap about division Potter seemed to be the top pick throughout the process despite what Matt Parish and his supporters tried to suggest. The "delay" as such seemed to be more about the Sheens payout and the need for formal approval.

As for any other issues they were able to get the WT NSW Cup through. There may be some tensions (nearly all boards have them - Manly's seems disfunctional at times) but I see no real evidence of a division that interferes with the running of the club.

I thought the ''delay'' was them ensuring they made the right choice. :neutral_face:
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Attn MTD!
Below is an example of a man giving his word:

@Mick Potter said:
"You start a job, you finish it," he said."

Well actually what I said was:

"personally I'd rather they take the time to get things right"
"Yes I do think they're taking the time to get everything right and that includes the financials and Tim Sheens role."
 

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