Mick Potter - That was horrible

[Phoenixtigers18]

It is obvious that potter does not have the support of the dressing room. Whether or not that is because most of our playing group have had only one coach who knows but it doesn't really matter, the problem is he doesn't seem to have it. We are in big trouble if this is the case. On top of that we have no new ideas in attack, our defense is worse. People can defend him as much as they like saying its not his roster but would the same people be saying its not his roster if we were running in the top 4?????

 

[tigerpiesmatt]

as a long time fan I would have to say this season has been absolutely decimated by an horrendous injury toll to a lot of our topline players. Even though this has allowed the blooding of some fantastic young talent, no matter how good a player you have on the paddock you still need to have successful combinations out there and continual disruption due to injury has prevented this .I would not be concerned if Mr Potter left Benji and Blake out for the rest of the year and let some other youngsters find their feet a little in remaining games. Look to next year_…...Tedesco 1, Korobete2, simona 3, Lawrence 4, nuafaloma 5, Anasta/moltzen 6, brooks 7, sironen13, fulton 12, halatau 11, woods 10,farrah 9,galloway8, and on the bench we have bell, ava s...., plus a host of other upcoming talent. Blair off the bench until his contract expires._Any thoughts on a different line up to this? :sign:

 

[tigerpiesmatt]

Neil Henry as coach, he had a heap of talent in NQLD and did squat. Give Mick Potter a chance, if we can keep our roster on the paddock next year and not have most of them in the stands we should have a pretty good season. Potter has what it takes.

 

[system]

Blaming potter for this? Dumb and obviously uneducated.

I want pose a question to you guys. Do you think mick potter is a fan of the no look pass? I don't think so. Yet benji throws them every week. Benji is clearly going out there doing one thing and that's what he wants to do. Does not care one bit about potters plan.

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[phil1986]

Blaming potter for this? Dumb and obviously uneducated.

I want pose a question to you guys. Do you think mick potter is a fan of the no look pass? I don't think so. Yet benji throws them every week. Benji is clearly going out there doing one thing and that's what he wants to do. Does not care one bit about potters plan.

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Agree completely, if you remember back to nrls summertime at the start of the year.

Potter said it was about controlling our game, and playing smart, making the meters and earning the right to play the way we have done in the past!

Playing the percentages. Something that benji never seemed to understand.

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[southerntiger]

I like Mick Potter. He is a very decent man and has a wonderful work ethic. He has done well in bringing young players through and in moving some deadwood on. I am happy for him to be given to at least mid-next year for those reasons.

However, I also would not lose sleep if the club decided to part ways with him for the following reasons:

1\. As I and others have identified, he doesn't have the support of the dressing room. He may not be to blame for this. Regardless that is the way it is and I am not confident he can win it back.

2\. Our attack has been the worst I have ever seen it and I have been supporting the Tigers since 1985\. Even the bad old days with the likes of Baysari etc at 6 were better. We weren't great last year but we were a lot better than this year. The only real change since then has been Potter. I have seen no improvement in our attack despite it being abysmal since rd 1\. The lack of improvement is startling and is my greatest concern. Admittedly this may be connected with point 1.

3\. When I listen to him press conference I don't get the impression that he has any idea on how to improve things. It seems, and I appreciate that this may not be the case, that he is just going through the motions. His poor communication skills displayed in press conference also give me an idea of why we have the problem identified at point 1.

It's hard to blast Potter. He has been given a tough gig. But the toughness of that gig should not be used to ignore the fact that he may not have it.

I hope my fears are well and truly proven wrong and we kill it next year under Harry.

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[system]

Blaming potter for this? Dumb and obviously uneducated.

I want pose a question to you guys. Do you think mick potter is a fan of the no look pass? I don't think so. Yet benji throws them every week. Benji is clearly going out there doing one thing and that's what he wants to do. Does not care one bit about potters plan.

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Agree completely, if you remember back to nrls summertime at the start of the year.

Potter said it was about controlling our game, and playing smart, making the meters and earning the right to play the way we have done in the past!

Playing the percentages. Something that benji never seemed to understand.

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He has always been a low percentage player. That's why when one of his plays comes off its a miracle. And he is then crowned a genius. The flick pass to Richards. the behind the back pass to Simona. 9 times out of 10 those plays fail.

He is a very average player. And until people start to understand that which is starting happen now the better.

Potter has come to the tigers to coach a team basically being run by this fool. They have never seen eye to eye.

It will be a completely different side next year with young blood wanting to shine and listen to their coach. I'm very excited about it actually. It might mean for once in 8 years we have structure.

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[Phoenixtigers18]

Ill pose a question to you, if potter is not a fan of the no look pass etc why not hook benji and bring on sironen to 5/8???? He clearly can't motivate his players. How he left anasta/benji on the field last week is another example of him obviously not having a plan! His use of the bench is terrible at best! Be nice to hear some truths at these press conferences to actually show us he gives a crap that his so called 'game plan' has been not carried out!!!!

 

[system]

Ill pose a question to you, if potter is not a fan of the no look pass etc why not hook benji and bring on sironen to 5/8???? He clearly can't motivate his players. How he left anasta/benji on the field last week is another example of him obviously not having a plan! His use of the bench is terrible at best! Be nice to hear some truths at these press conferences to actually show us he gives a crap that his so called 'game plan' has been not carried out!!!!

He got slammed for benching benji once by the media. All week. It was terrible. They crucified him. What do you think it will be like dropping benji altogether in his last 4 or 5 games when we have no chance anyway ? It would be much worse.

You are a fool to think this potters fault. A rookie coach in his first year at a club that is a shambles. Not to mention the fact they were playing the same brand of football last year under a coach we won a premiership with.

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[Eddie]

I don't really want to start bagging Potter, he deserves next year to show us what he can do post clean out. SOme of these players have really got so bad that they are leaving a stench in the place. Similarly I see little value in Royce Simmons, Georgallis and maybe Skando. Potter with his own coaches, and a newish if young side as least has a chance to mould his own team.

For the most part I have been supportive of him. He has improved some of our young guys and cleared out some of our dead wood. However I am getting worried about the last months performances and the lack of motivation. Followed by the dead pan press conferences. The lack of connection he has with Farah and Fulton in there for me seems a bit of a worry. Robbie never mentioned him as one of the reasons he re-signed for 4 years. I haven't seen any great support from the players for the coach. There doesn't look a great bond although it is always tough to when your losing.

Based on this year i wouldn't be sacking Potter, nor would I be extending his deal. Lets see how we fare under him next season. Progress towards the Top 8 and in defence/playing style and he can gain an extension. More performances like today, and a similar league position and we can throw some of our money in 2015 maybe at a high profile coach.

 

[Phoenixtigers18]

Well is he his own coach or not!!! You said it yourself we are playing the same brand of football so the question is why do we even have him. If we are playing the same type of game that got sheens the flick why are we still playing that way???? At least the players liked sheens!! Could cop coming 15th if we were trying to adapt to a new style but we aren't.

 

[tigermaniac]

Well is he his own coach or not!!! You said it yourself we are playing the same brand of football so the question is why do we even have him. If we are playing the same type of game that got sheens the flick why are we still playing that way???? At least the players liked sheens!! Could cop coming 15th if we were trying to adapt to a new style but we aren't.

Under Sheens they were only show ponies, rep wise hardly any reached the best sides on merit. You make me laugh with the comment, is he his own coach.
I have a question for you, who was the last trainer to win a Melbourne cup with a show pony.
Mate you can't change the style with this stable, but with new blood anything is possible.

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[system]

Well is he his own coach or not!!! You said it yourself we are playing the same brand of football so the question is why do we even have him. If we are playing the same type of game that got sheens the flick why are we still playing that way???? At least the players liked sheens!! Could cop coming 15th if we were trying to adapt to a new style but we aren't.

Did you even read my post. Read all of it next time. We are playing the same brand of footy because they are not sticking to a plan. It is adlib footy. Always has been with benji in the side. Had a bit of success in 10 11 but was never going to last. You will always shoot yourself in the foot with that stile of play.

He is his own coach and he proved earlier this year when he did the 'unforgivable' in just benching him.
Getting rid of potter would be another dumb decision by the club.

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[Phoenixtigers18]

Ok, so we will all sit back and applaud mick potter for giving us absolutely no change no nothing run 15th and be happy about. Surely he can come up with a defensive structure better than the one that he has. Oh that's right it usually the teams that support the coach that put in more effort. We aren't trying and sorry some of that has to fall onto the coach. I never said sack him but if we don't see something midway through next year something has to be done of we will be battling parra for the spoon for the next 3 years

 

[system]

Ok, so we will all sit back and applaud mick potter for giving us absolutely no change no nothing run 15th and be happy about. Surely he can come up with a defensive structure better than the one that he has. Oh that's right it usually the teams that support the coach that put in more effort. We aren't trying and sorry some of that has to fall onto the coach. I never said sack him but if we don't see something midway through next year something has to be done of we will be battling parra for the spoon for the next 3 years

When have I applauded him? When have I said I am happy about what's going on? No I'm not. No I'm no applauding him.

I'm simply smart enough to know he is not to blame. He hasn't even had 1 year for f&$"$ sake.

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[Phoenixtigers18]

Well I'm sorry if I've misunderstood you. I am not into having him sacked and I often think that far too much blame goes to coaches, I'm just frustrated that people (not you) blow spoke up his arse and we are 15th and getting worse not better. I understand our roster is not great (and we are stuck playing benji) but look at say Penrith and their roster and they may not make the 8 but they are improving. That is what I would expect from us next year

 

[900large]

I guess the proof in the pudding will be next year, both in the performances of the tigers and those players he has let go.
By the way apart from benji (who wanted to leave who was actually offered an upgrade and extension) and ayshford which of the top17 have been offloaded? So what is this clean out I keep reading of.

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[Gary_Bakerloo]

Look at the starting line up and think who is playing rubbish now:

1\. James Tedesco - developing really well.
2\. David Nofoalumna - developing really well.
3\. Blake Ayshford - RUBBISH
4\. Chris Lawrence - struggling
5\. Tim Simona - developing really well.
6\. Benji Marshall - RUBBISH
7\. Curtis Sironen - developing really well.
8\. Jack Buchanan - fine
9\. Robbie Farah - fine
10\. Adam Blair - fine and very much improved
11\. Liam Fulton - becoming a leader
12\. Bodene Thompson - fine
13\. Sauaso Sue - developing really well..

14\. Ava Seumanufagai - developing really well.
15\. Keith Galloway - coming back from injury
16\. Ben Murdoch-Masila - very much improved
17\. Braith Anasta - RUBBISH

Therefore: Ayshford, Marshall and Anasta. Common denominator?

Marshall and Ayshford are gone
Anasta sees young talent coming through in the halves and back row. Being shopped around - will be gone

Lawrence is struggling.

Remove these players and you are left with a group of players who are either playing ok, developing or very much improved under Potter.

We are like Parramatta, but on a much lower scale. You have a mix of players who won't be here next season and those part of the coach's plans.

 

[jirskyr]

I agree Tim Sheens had to move on but to put in a rookie coach with a dysfunctional board and a team with "strong" personalities may not have been the right move (understanding he was probably the best from a poor field).

Mate there are only 3 kinds of coaches:
1) the good ones (employed)
2) the rookie ones
3) the ordinary ones (unemployed)

For starters Potter is no rookie, even if he hasn't coached NRL before. The replacements being bandied about - Walters, Barrett, Parish - they are all genuine rookies.

Or you can go find an experienced coach who is currently not a head , see how that goes - Brian Smith, Chris Anderson, Royce Simmons, Peter Sharp, Steve Folkes.

Let's be realistic here - any coach, even the worst ones in the world, need minimum two years to prove their worth. First year to take what they inherited and try to mould it, second year to produce.

We have peanuts to pay a coach with, and Potter took the deal. When Sheensie finally gets paid out end of next year (egads) we can reassess Potter's two-year run and make a decision then.

Guns back in holsters ladies.

 

[bp_tiger]

if thats the best potter can come up with in attack and defence then he needs to join benji and anasta and leave the club. and dont all jump on the band wagon that he has nothing to work with they are all 1st grade paid players either preform or drop them POTTER, that what u get paid to do.