Mitchell Moses Suspension Thread

@happy tiger said:
@Blake93 said:
The whole situation is being blown way out of proportion. No one uses the phrase "gay c**t" and intends it to be disrespectful towards homosexuals. Unfortunately the word 'gay' has become synonymous with the lesser due to its overuse by my generation but it doesn't mean that it is intended to offend the LGBT community

Sorry Blake , but you are a hypocrite

How many times have you had a go at me for making mock gay jokes at NSW

I had a go at you once for something that was INTENTIONALLY offensive towards the gay community. The phrase "gay c**t" is not intentionally offensive towards the gay community. Apples and oranges.
 
I look forward to the NRL clamping down on the pejorative use of the word bastard, as it is offensive to all those people born out of wedlock.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
I look forward to the NRL clamping down on the pejorative use of the word bastard, as it is offensive to all those people born out of wedlock.

Too funny

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I dont think it is ok to use Gay as derogatory term. Particularly if the player in question is gay, but either way.
It implies something is wrong with being gay, I hope these days are behind us.
If it was Mitch, and he cops a suspension or penalty, that is unfortunate, but a lesson learned.

As for his football, he is very talented and would have been rated by many as a better player than Brooks, thought he went well in the 20's and think he will be a good player in the future. Unlike Brooks who has quite a big frame naturally, MOses will have to work hard on his body to get it ready for NRL level.
 
in the heat of battle I would think worse than that would be said are we be coming a team of soft c**ks the game will be played in skirts, give us a break 😛ray: 😛ray:
 
I also demand the next player to refer to someone as a wanker cop 8 weeks as well, given that would be slanderous to roughly 50% of the Australian population.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
I also demand the next player to refer to someone as a wanker cop 8 weeks as well, given that would be slanderous to roughly 50% of the Australian population.

LOL.Wankers stand and unite.
 
How about this poor bugger:

_Meanwhile, NSW under 20s prop Matt Lodge is likely to get a rap over the knuckles from the NSWRL for having the word ‘‘c–t’’ written on his wrist strapping, which was removed by officials during the game._

Seriously, give players a break. "Catch, Unleash, Never give up and Tackle hard" are very common reminders for players. You can't expect them to be writing essays on their arms, so they must use acronyms.
 
Its a slur, it offends, it gives the media something to use to paint League as lower class and backwards….the NRL should and will come down on it.

You reckon people from the 50s used to say "n****r* wasn't offensive towards black people?
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
I also demand the next player to refer to someone as a wanker cop 8 weeks as well, given that would be slanderous to roughly 50% of the Australian population.

LOL.Wankers stand and unite.

Imagine a sea of chronic masturbators descending down on NRL HQ to start their protest campaign "Beating Off Injustice."
 
politically correct crap

things are said every day all around the world - if i took offence at all the crap that was thrown at me over the years FFS!!

No one, included the supposed "victim", was upset by it - just another example of the politically correct trying to brainwash the populace….harden up

"significantly more important things to worry about in the world than that " (and that last quote comes from several gay acquaintances)
 
The issue is we have to draw the line somewhere

So its OK to call someone gay buts it not OK to call someone black or coloured

Blake my closest mate of 40 years is gay , I helped him come out to his family who are strict Catholics

We have been through so much sh&t together its not funny

Bar going to work he didn't leave my side for probably 2 months when I lost my first wife and unborn child

I've been in fights with other blokes who have called him gay

When I use the term I'm joking and we quite often joke too each other about being straight and gay or players being straight or gay
 
Moses banned for two games for homophobic slur
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Wests Tigers and NSW Under-20s player Mitchell Moses has been banned for two games by the NRL for making a homophobic remark during Saturday's State of Origin match against Queensland.

Wests Tigers and NSW Under-20s player Mitchell Moses has been banned for two games by the NRL for making a homophobic remark during Saturday's State of Origin match against Queensland. Credit: Col Whelan Copyright: NRL Photos
The NRL has suspended Wests Tigers and NSW Under-20s player Mitchell Moses for two games for breaching the League’s anti-vilification policy with comments made during Saturday night’s State of Origin match at Sportingbet Stadium.

The league reported that Moses, 19, visited Rugby League Central on Monday morning to apologise for the offensive remark. Mitchell also apologised to the Queensland player involved, Canberra's Luke Bateman.

NRL Head of Football Todd Greenberg said Moses would also be required to undergo an anti-vilification education and awareness program as part of driving an inclusive sporting culture.

“The NRL has consistently made it clear that there is no place for any form of discrimination in our game and we will take firm action if it occurs,” he said.

“The player has accepted responsibility and apologised for his comments, which was taken into consideration in determining the penalty.

“After careful assessment, we have decided to issue the player with a two-match suspension.

“We will also require him to participate in a program to improve his awareness and understanding of the importance of eliminating discrimination, particularly homophobia, in the game.”

Mr Greenberg said all players should understand that they are role models for Rugby League.

“Our young players need to demonstrate they not only have great skill on the field but also have the right value set. This is part of being involved in and progressing Rugby League, which is a game for everyone.”

The NRL Match Review Committee reviewed the incident and recommended that the NRL act under the existing Anti-Vilification Code.

The NRL is currently canvassing advice on appropriate programs that are aimed at creating inclusive sporting cultures and eliminating homophobia in sport.
 
Fair enough in my opinion

They have put a line in the sand

Lets see what happens when a player of the Farah ,Inglis ,Gallen, DCE stature does it though
 
The only reason this was brought up is that it was caught on Fox microphones.

Referees hear this stuff, and worse, every single game, and yet nothing is done about it. We'd have no players in the NRL if everyone who said stuff along these lines was booted.
 
@alex said:
The only reason this was brought up is that it was caught on Fox microphones.

Referees hear this stuff, and worse, every single game, and yet nothing is done about it. We'd have no players in the NRL if everyone who said stuff along these lines was booted.

It's BS
Agree with above
Line drawn in sand so we will see a player or two suspended every week from now on from the NRL

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@tigertye said:
It wasn't the nicest comment but seriously people need to harden up. I'm positive a lot worse is said on a footy field than "you're a FGC." It's funny how no one had a problem with everyone at Leichardt screaming "Birdy's a wanker" yet they get up in arms everytime someone calls someone gay or a fag. People need to get off their high horse and get over it. Most people have sworn or said the wrong thing in their life, so move on.

I've got a gay mate and we all say the word gay and sometimes worse on a night out jokingly around him, or to him and he doesn't care less, he knows we don't care about his gender choices, but we just respect the bloke for the good he does. My partners uncle is gay as well, and he's exactly the same. If he was in a blue and it someone said it with intent then it would fire him up, but if it was just mates joking around he couldn't give a rats.

If the guy who was called a FGC, is actually gay and taken offence, maybe the comment backfired and was said in the heat of the moment. A simple personal apology should suffice.

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1) There is nothing 'hard' about using gay as an insult. There is nothing 'soft' about setting a clear line in the sand that homophobic slurs are unacceptable on the rugby league field.
2) There is a world of difference between in house jokes and comments that are broadcast to the public. Ask your mate what he thinks of 'gay' and 'homo' being tossed around as insults in the public domain. If he has no problems with it, then that's great for him. He clearly feels accepted by the community and comfortable in his sexuality. It is completely different for a teenager who is grappling with his/her sexual orientation. What do you think they feel when they hear a comment tossed around like that on the football field? Unwelcome comes to mind.
3) It has absolutely nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the individual the comment was directed at. Using the term as an insult implies there is something wrong with being homosexual. I doubt Moses believes that, but what he believes is irrelevant. It conveys that message. It conveys a message that gay men and women are not welcome in the game. What would your response be if someone called a Polynesian player an 'ab* c***'? Sure the player is not Aboriginal but it's still a highly offensive and derogates the Aboriginal community.
4) Equating wanker with a homophobic slur is shockingly stupid. As in incredible. What group of people does that marginalise? Just extraordinary you would try and equate the two and shows you have absolutely no understanding of the issue at hand.

I feel for Moses because I'm sure it is common on the field, and the fact he said it does not mean he is homophobic or has character flaws. I'm extremely happy the NRL has established a precedent. Homophobic slurs should be treated exactly the same as racist slurs. Completely unacceptable.

To those who claim it is a PR thing, I think that is an oversimplification. Or at least I hope that is an oversimplification. I would like to think the reason the game is cracking down on it is because it is offensive to a segment of the population and is no longer acceptable in Rugby League.
 
@alex said:
The only reason this was brought up is that it was caught on Fox microphones.

Referees hear this stuff, and worse, every single game, and yet nothing is done about it. We'd have no players in the NRL if everyone who said stuff along these lines was booted.

Yeah, and it's absolutely rubbish the NRL does nothing about it.

Hopefully the press this incident has attracted leads to a crackdown. It's absolutely inappropriate.
 
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