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tom620

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Just saw this in smh:

The Wests Tigers could be moving out of their Concord headquarters. Chief Operating Office Grant Mayer concedes they are looking at moving to either Sydney Olympic Park, Moore Park or possibly even Campbelltown.

"From my experience, we are a fair way behind the market leaders. Clubs such as Panthers, Eels, Bulldogs, Souths have all been gifted significant government grants for their training facilities. We need to make some very big decisions regarding our facilities now.

Concord needs significant investment, Sydney Olympic Park may be an option and the Moore Park Precinct should also be reviewed. Likewise Campbelltown. My clear aim is to help the Club develop world-class training facilities. The NRL can and will play a massive role here." - Grant Mayer

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/talkin-teams-tuesday-july-9-20130709-2pnog.html#ixzz2YWxEmgLs
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Quite stong words - especially 'My clear aim is to help the Club develop world-class training facilities. The NRL can and will play a massive role here'.
Whether the NRL do anything is another story, but surely the anti-AFL, anti-ALeague arguement might help establish something in Cambelltown.
 
Training base at Campbelltown with top line facilities. Home games at a redeveloped ANZ (game sharing memberships with Dogs, Souths, other ANZ teams). A couple of prestige games at boutique LO/CSS on sunshine timeslots. Adoption of a black jersey with gold/white double v.

Throw in a very solid junior program and a new found talent for recruitment and retention and the team could be going places.
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Ok not every detail is to the liking of all, but that would possibly be the best middle of the road consolidation without losing too much.
 
Can't they re-look at working out of UWS Campbelltown.

They would have a gym, office space, playing fields and access to the universities Sports Science, Sports management and Medical departments.

It also has a train station and bus stops nearby.

This would allow the UWS Magpies tertiary side, the Wests Magpies Harrold Matts, SG Ball and Ron Massey Cup to share the same faciltiies with the Wests Tigers U20's, NSW Cup and NRL side. They could also run training camp and development courses there for local Group 6 and Wests clubs.

It just makes sense! Probably why it wont happen.
 
@Demonborger said:
Training base at Campbelltown with top line facilities. Home games at a redeveloped ANZ (game sharing memberships with Dogs, Souths, other ANZ teams). A couple of prestige games at boutique LO/CSS on sunshine timeslots. Adoption of a black jersey with gold/white double v.

Throw in a very solid junior program and a new found talent for recruitment and retention and the team could be going places.
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Ok not every detail is to the liking of all, but that would possibly be the best middle of the road consolidation without losing too much.
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Pretty much as I see it ..the NRL want the majority of the Sydney based clubs out of the suburban grounds and into better stadium facilities. This really benefits a club like the Weststigers financially and gives them the 1 home ground.
As for the training facilities this is a huge cost to get right ,probable makes sense out Campbelltown way but feel it will be more an inner city based thing centrally located , at least things are being discussed that's a good thing . For the jersey colours been here long enough to leave that alone!
 
This is the key quote:

@tom620 said:
"The NRL can and will play a massive role here." - Grant Mayer
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It appears Wests are putting the ball in the court of the NRL, which is only fair. Why should Wests take all the costs/burdens of moving to a developing area? Hopefully the NRL has learned the lessons on the late 90's.
 
This quote was from the next edition of the CEO q and a. If someone could post it I. A threads it is great -I would but am. On my phone but its a good read
 
Courtesy of the official Wests Tigers website:

Inside Wests Tigers - Part 2: Coaching Staff

Tuesday 9 July 2013 5:07 PM
Inside Wests Tigers - Part 2: Coaching Staff

Wests Tigers new Chief Operating Officer Grant Mayer recently took questions from Wests Tigers fans across the Wests Tigers Social Network and Wests Tigers Fan Forum.

Wests Tigers Digital has compiled a series of articles, which will provide in-depth answers from Mayer and give Wests Tigers Members and fans an industry leading insight into their Club.

The series will cover multiple facets of the Wests Tigers business including recruitment, retention, salary cap, finances, governance, strategy, coaching staff, membership, communications, game day experience and more.

Wests Tigers Digital is pleased to provide:

Part 2 – Coaching Staff

Will Mick Potter be allowed to appoint his own coaching staff?

Absolutely.

It’s fair to say that the coaching staff that are here are specialists in their roles.

My job over this next short time is to look at our entire coaching and business structure to make sure that we are world’s best practice, and that will be on going.

I can guarantee you that we’ll certainly look at improving our structure and facilities.

Recruitment at Wests Tigers has been criticised, what is being done?

What we’ve done is put some strength and rigour around our recruitment process whereby it’s not simply left up to one or two people.

For everyone’s information, no recruitment manager is responsible for identifying, negotiating, buying and settling on a player.

That usually comes from a retention group and primarily from a coach.

Both my two previous clubs, Canterbury and Manly, have had this structure in place.

It’s a very multi-tiered approach to recruitment, to blame any one person is unwarranted.

It’s been said has been a culture of complacency amongst the playing group at Wests Tigers. Has this been addressed?

Wayne Bennett has a very a simple philosophy about his playing and coaching staff.

He looks at turning over 20-25% of his squad each year to avoid complacency.

Complacency has no place in successful teams. I am convinced that with the right people in place there will be no room for complacency.

Wests Tigers have endured a horrible run with injuries, are we doing things correctly in training?

It’s been a hot topic of conversation all year.

It’s fair to summarise it this way. There’s two types of injury – There’s impact injuries and there’s soft tissue injuries.

The vast majority of our injuries this year have been impact injuries. Therefore soft-tissue injuries, for example those incurred in training, haven’t been our concern.

We’ve obviously struggled in regards to numbers, but we’re quite satisfied we’re doing all the right things in training and in rehab.

A good example is Keith Galloway. Pectoral tears are normally season ending. Our rehab team will have him back after the bye.

The Wests Tigers appear to have the longest recovery periods compared to other clubs in the NRL. Do we need to spend more money is it simply bad lack?

It’s no secret that our in-house medical facilities need to be reviewed, however, we are satisfied with our current process.

Our physio staff have been very happy with regards to how quickly players have come back.

We’ve obviously had our share of long term injuries, Lote Tuqiri for example, but to break a humerus bone is a very rare thing indeed.

How do our training facilities stack up against our competition?

From my experience, we are a fair way behind the market leaders. Clubs such as Panthers, Eels, Bulldogs, Souths have all been gifted significant government grants for their training facilities.

We need to make some very big decisions regarding our facilities now.

Concord needs significant investment, Sydney Olympic Park may be an option and the Moore Park Precinct should also be reviewed. Likewise Campbelltown.

My clear aim is to help the Club develop world-class training facilities.

The NRL can and will play a massive role here.
 
@galahs said:
Can't they re-look at working out of UWS Campbelltown.

They would have a gym, office space, playing fields and access to the universities Sports Science, Sports management and Medical departments.

It also has a train station and bus stops nearby.

This would allow the UWS Magpies tertiary side, the Wests Magpies Harrold Matts, SG Ball and Ron Massey Cup to share the same faciltiies with the Wests Tigers U20's, NSW Cup and NRL side. They could also run training camp and development courses there for local Group 6 and Wests clubs.

It just makes sense! Probably why it wont happen.
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It's a great idea and one i'm sure has been considered. But firstly it would cost a lot for the club and perhaps the greater distance from the city could be a turnoff for potential signings?
 
@galahs said:
Can't they re-look at working out of UWS Campbelltown.

They would have a gym, office space, playing fields and access to the universities Sports Science, Sports management and Medical departments.

It also has a train station and bus stops nearby.

This would allow the _UWS Magpies tertiary side, the Wests Magpies Harrold Matts, SG Ball and Ron Massey Cup to share the same faciltiies with the Wests Tigers U20's, NSW Cup and NRL side_. They could also run training camp and development courses there for local Group 6 and Wests clubs.

It just makes sense! Probably why it wont happen.
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1..2..3..4..5..6..7 teams sharing facilities?? 😱pen_mouth: UWS Campbelltown facilities would have to be awfully big :nerd:

NRL, NSWC, NYC should all share facilities - that would be ~50-60 guys. I do think that it would be great if Wests Tigers players would spent some time mentoring the younger guys - provided we institute a good culture and not that boys club embarrassment that we have been. But all at the same place would cause queues for facilities and is beyond our resources i'd imagine. For longer term it could be something to strive towards.
 
@Snake said:
@Demonborger said:
Training base at Campbelltown with top line facilities. Home games at a redeveloped ANZ (game sharing memberships with Dogs, Souths, other ANZ teams). A couple of prestige games at boutique LO/CSS on sunshine timeslots. Adoption of a black jersey with gold/white double v.

Throw in a very solid junior program and a new found talent for recruitment and retention and the team could be going places.
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Ok not every detail is to the liking of all, but that would possibly be the best middle of the road consolidation without losing too much.

Pretty much as I see it ..the NRL want the majority of the Sydney based clubs out of the suburban grounds and into better stadium facilities. This really benefits a club like the Weststigers financially and gives them the 1 home ground.
As for the training facilities this is a huge cost to get right ,probable makes sense out Campbelltown way but feel it will be more an inner city based thing centrally located , at least things are being discussed that's a good thing . **_For the jersey colours been here long enough to leave that alone!_**
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I'm talking about the design - the club seems to be keen for a main jersey that is black, that has a white and gold double v. It is common to all the designs for the jersey comp. That and a gold reverse would be nice as our jersey design that we keep for identity/brand/image purposes.
 
I voted for Allianz Stadium as I hate watching regular season games at ANZ Stadium. Allianz has better atmosphere and is closer to the city (good for Friday/Monday games).

ANZ Stadium does have the benefit of cheaper ticket prices though. The Bulldogs constantly have great deals on - eg this week they're offering a family ticket for $20\. Given the limited capacity of Leichhardt and Campbelltown, we just can't compete with those sorts of prices.

Would love to see us build a 'Centre of Excellence' type thing out of Campbelltown. Would help a lot in developing our presence in the region.
 
Could someone explain the importance of a Centre of Excellence to me?

I mean i generally get how it helps players and stuff like that, but I'm on the fence on whether it's actually worth us spending that much money. Or is the gvm't supposed to pitch in?
 
@galahs said:
Can't they re-look at working out of UWS Campbelltown.

They would have a gym, office space, playing fields and access to the universities Sports Science, Sports management and Medical departments.

It also has a train station and bus stops nearby.

This would allow the UWS Magpies tertiary side, the Wests Magpies Harrold Matts, SG Ball and Ron Massey Cup to share the same faciltiies with the Wests Tigers U20's, NSW Cup and NRL side. They could also run training camp and development courses there for local Group 6 and Wests clubs.

It just makes sense! Probably why it wont happen.
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If its already there, it would make alot of sense!

I'm not a fan of playing at ANZ though… Its a prick of a place to get in and out, so therefore I'd prefer to play at SFS!
 
There is a hell of a lot of sense in moving out to Campbelltown given they're looking at a centre of excellence out there anyways. However, somewhere central to the entire fan base is always going to be preferred but i feel we should do what is best for the club. If it's easiest to set up in Campbelltown then so be it. We do it what it takes.
 
@pHyR3 said:
Could someone explain the importance of a Centre of Excellence to me?

I mean i generally get how it helps players and stuff like that, but I'm on the fence on whether it's actually worth us spending that much money. Or is the gvm't supposed to pitch in?
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As long as we don't demand a centre of excellence, which turns put to be in the same basket as the Gold Coast Titans centre of Excellence. I.E. Causes the club major debt, and financial heartache as we try to legally wrangle ourselves out of a massively 'over budget' piece of infrastructure…
I agree it would appear (if you go by reports about Concord), that we are along way behind other clubs! Eg. Dessie demanded The bulldogs invest $1M into their centre & training facilities, which was repaid to the club within a season (from merchandise sales when they made the GF)... The fact Maher is asking about it, says that all things are under review, not just the playing staff & management team. We are building to some big years ahead my WT friends. :sign:
 
Doesn't make any sense moving to Campbelltown .the squad is already up in arms with the current going ons .im sure I wouldn't be enticed to a Campbelltown based club if I lived in bondi or manly
 
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