Naiqama Defending

[innsaneink]

They're clearly not working together , no communication…all three of them.
Whether its a lack of trust of confidence who knows...hard to pinpoint one main protagonist....it seems they're all doing their own thing at different stages and in different games

 

[tiga4eva]

I agree Naiqama is at times clueless, but why is Nof always caught infield with his wing opponent scoring untouched on his outside.If it was Naiqamas misread I think the centre would more likely score. Nofo's positioning is abysmal.

 

[851]

I agree Naiqama is at times clueless, but why is Nof always caught infield with his wing opponent scoring untouched on his outside.If it was Naiqamas misread I think the centre would more likely score. Nofo's positioning is abysmal.

If Kev moves in Nofa has to follow, and that is whats happening, Kev rushes in when he doesn't have to, and the winger has to follow his centre in, and as happens the long ball gets us outside Nofa all the time, Kev's fault.

 

[pHyR3]

For mine, he's a winger who CAN play center. But it's not his best spot. With JAC moving on, I'd be looking at moving him back to the wing & shifting Rankin inside or playing Chee Kam. Both read the attack better, and won't expose the winger as often.

Yes, Kevin isn't great under the high ball. But he isn't the lone ranger there. But, he runs out of dummy half well & is a good finisher.

I thought wingers are generally meant to be fast
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

he sets up great tries all the time? he tore apart the chooks on that kick return with a great pass from memory

seen some other great stuff from him in attack.

he's very good in attack, his defense needs work though

 

[Winston]

:brick:
Couldn't agree more.
JT , you must understand that doing the same thing and expecting a different result is the first sign of insanity.
Which is where you are sending all of us loyal and pain enduring supporters.
Another post about your ability to read a game and pick a team , let alone coach a team will follow !!!
The fish rots at the head JT.
Wake up and smell the roses ….........Preferably in England !!!
Kev is great in attack but because if his inability to read attack he not only exposes himself but puts Nof at 6's & 7's because he cant trust his inside man.
Back to reggies or into the exit lounge and lets get the right person in the right positions .... across the team , coaching staff and board.
There are guys in this team bustin it every week and proud as punch to wear the jumper , but are getting let down by JT tryin to live in lala land with his bland form of footy.
Why would we keep Kev and let JAC go to Melbourne.Does the name Koribete ring any bells.
Lets finish this season on the up.
I am a proud Tigers supporter for over 40 years and just want what the team want..... Leadership !!!

 

[Tiger_Watto]

On our line Kevin looks worse… This is because he can't 'counter' his errors.

You guys expect too much from him. He is clearly a reserve grader who is a class above NSW Cup playing NRL and wouldn't get a start anywhere else.

Those moments when he starts moving backwards... Gone! (GI will be looking for him on Friday)

 

[Chevy]

Moses,Kev,Nofo=3 weak defenders=opposition scores

 

[Chainlink]

Okay, I dont know how/where to get stats so I quickly looked at vid highlights and here is my summation of the last few rounds only:

Total tries against since round 9 = 21
Left side : 6 (29%)
Middle : 4 (19%)
Right side : 11 (52%)
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Round 13 vs Roosters
• Try 1 - right edge - between Naqaima and Moses
• Try 2 - right edge - outside Nofa
• Try 3 - left edge - Chee Kam and Addo Carr
• Try 4 - middle - kick behind the line centre field
• Try 5 right side - missed tackle Moses - Naqaima rushed the line and took noone

Round 12 vs Broncos
• Try 1 - right edge. Outnumbered Nofa rushed and took noone
• Try 2 - left edge - offload
• Try 3 - left edge - kick

Round 11 vs Knights
• Try 1 - middle
• Try 2 - right edge between Moses and Chee Kam

Round 10 cs Bulldogs
• Try 1 - right side - outnumbered outside Nofa
• Try 2 - left edge break
• Try 3 - left side drop ball
• Try 4 - right edge Naqaima rush
• Try 5 - right edge Nofo came in not needed
• Try 6 - middle - long range break down middle
• Try 7 - middle

Round 9 vs Rabbitohs
• Try 1 - left side kick
• Try 2 - right side - Nofa bombed a bomb
• Try 3 - right side - Nofa rushed in and took noone
• Try 4 - right side - Naqaima rushed up and took noone while Nofa had dropped back for last tackle

MY OBSERVATIONS
• Most our tries on the right were from relatively close range.
• A fair proportion of the tries scored down left side and middle were longer range tries, kicks or offloads. Far far less obvious bad defensive reads.
• Naqaima is definitely guilty of rushing out of the line but not affecting any tackle or taking an attacker.
• Nofa is certainly not guilt free and is also guilty of jamming in when not required
• communication between Moses, Naqaima and Nofa is clearly not good enough.
• It would be interesting to go back further amd see if something has changed in our defensive structure since the early rounds as I don't recall such obvious defensive issues on the right early in the season.

This is just my view of a quick highlight package scan of tries against. It doesnt take into account how many GOOD defenaive reads were made or how many tries we scored down each side.

 

[Harvey]

They should tether Nofa to a dog run along the side line with about 5m slack. Then tie Kev to Nofa with about 10m of rope.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

It's almost laughable now, he doesn't get dropped he's just allowed to make the same mistakes every week. Teams are targeting that side as part of their game plan now, we need to stop the rot and send him back to reggies until he learns to read the defence a lot better.

It makes you wonder if Taylor and/or whoever is our defence, actually goes and talks to him and tells him that his defence is crud, and woks with him to improve it?
That's what infuriates me most about the team, All teams have problems of some sort, but most seem to do at least something about ir( especially when it's as glaringly obvious as this one, ) but nothing ever seems to be happening about it.
Either drop him to work on it or work with him to change what he does on the field.
There's very few repercussions in this club for repeated failures, in first grade.

 

[Chevy]

This pair are atrocious in defence,throw in moses and you have 3 paper thin defenders in a row,what is even more criminal is that there is no repercussions for their short comings from selectors.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

For mine, he's a winger who CAN play center. But it's not his best spot. With JAC moving on, I'd be looking at moving him back to the wing & shifting Rankin inside or playing Chee Kam. Both read the attack better, and won't expose the winger as often.

Yes, Kevin isn't great under the high ball. But he isn't the lone ranger there. But, he runs out of dummy half well & is a good finisher.

I thought wingers are generally meant to be fast
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Problem is when we get one of those, we put a for sale on him then someone puts the finishing touches on him and gets the benefit.
I feel sorry for Rankin at times.
He gets played out of position, does ok , but maybe ,not to first grade standard, gets criticised, and watches players playing in a position more suited to him, who Have trouble in putting two good games together , but are there week in ,week out, no matter how badly they play
Must be frustrating .

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Personally, because of Moses that Right side Defence needs to look like

Nofo
MCK
Mitch
Garlic Mayo
Woods/Taylor/Ava

And the right side attack

Mitch
Mayo/Teddy
MCK
Nofo

 

[happy_tiger]

I know people are bagging Moses's defence , but he has improved a heap so far this season alone

Far better than Brooks , that's for sure

 

[tigermac88]

It's almost laughable now, he doesn't get dropped he's just allowed to make the same mistakes every week. Teams are targeting that side as part of their game plan now, we need to stop the rot and send him back to reggies until he learns to read the defence a lot better.

It makes you wonder if Taylor and/or whoever is our defence, actually goes and talks to him and tells him that his defence is crud, and woks with him to improve it?
That's what infuriates me most about the team, All teams have problems of some sort, but most seem to do at least something about ir( especially when it's as glaringly obvious as this one, ) but nothing ever seems to be happening about it.
Either drop him to work on it or work with him to change what he does on the field.
There's very few repercussions in this club for repeated failures, in first grade.

Yep spot on, it all comes back to accountability which unfortunately doesn't apply to most players. I thought we were finally going to see players getting dropped for poor form when Sirro was dropped a few weeks back but it appears not.

 

[tigermac88]

Personally, because of Moses that Right side Defence needs to look like

Nofo
MCK
Mitch
Garlic Mayo
Woods/Taylor/Ava

And the right side attack

Mitch
Mayo/Teddy
MCK
Nofo

You could also swap Moses put the second rower outside of him in defence, but that wouldn't work with a player like Aloiai I suppose as he's too slow… I honestly don't know what the answer is there are a few ways to try and fix it but I just know that we can't keep doing the same thing and expecting it to fix itself.

 

[madunit]

The issue is Moses constantly commits himself to the decoy runner running at his inside shoulder. That's not his responsibility in a sliding defence.

So everyone slides then Moses goes straight. I can't explain wtf Kev is doing, but he almost always does it wrong. Rushes up and in way too early, the play usually goes on after he has essentially run away. Nofo has no option but to hold back and hope that he has numbered up on one of three players coming towards the line.

The problem starts with Moses but becomes a catastrophe thanks to Kev.

 

[madunit]

Best solution is to have Farah defend wider of the ruck. He can keep the line together.

 

[851]

Best solution is to have Farah defend wider of the ruck. He can keep the line together.

Best solution is to have some accountability in team selections like the coach was going on about today, but clearly it was only words not actions as Kev was still in the team. :bash

 

[Chevy]

Best solution is to have somebody that can tackle,Chee kam plugged that problem area on our RHS well against the Broncos then got dropped for non-tackling Kev the following game,grazy.