Had Livestream last year and it was really cool to be able to watch games during odd times.
Does anyone know if it works in USA??
Does anyone know if it works in USA??
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@palms said:First of all the NRL will need to sort out their own backyard. I purchased an NRL Game Pass for the weekend (even though I could of streamed the weekend from elsewhere) to give it a shot and basically support the game I love, and I could not watch one game through the thing. It would continually take me back to the purchase page even though I had already paid for my pass and I know I was not in the minority on this one as the same thing happened to my brother and I saw hundreds of complaints online. The service was a disgrace last year, and in this day and age online content and more importantly, not delivering on paid content is absolute amateur hour.
@jirskyr said:@Yossarian said:I wonder if the NRL doesn't miss a trick by not having their own smart tv capable app and taking less from Foxtel. Personally I'd pay $20 for a specialised NRL channel and ditch Foxtel.
NRL are currently holding off doing this because NRL is so key to Foxtel subscriptions and Foxtel pay a lot of money for it. A significant mass of people still subscribe to the traditional FTA and pay-TV models. I don't think NRL can currently generate enough subscriptions via online services to risk cutting into Foxtel's pie.
But they did signal their intent by inviting Google (and I think Netflix) to the last round of TV rights discussions. I think as more and more people move towards on-demand online services like Netflix and Spotify, and as internet streaming becomes faster and with larger download allowances, we will see a critical mass of people moving away from traditional pay-TV.
I predict the continuing decline and perhaps even death of FTA and traditional pay TV, much like video/DVD rentals. Everything is moving online and people are starting to expect a broad array of on-demand content, particularly the more savvy and younger tech users.
To me, it's kind of like entertainment on a plane over the last 30 years. It used to be just one movie on the screen at the front, then they introduced overhead screens on the side rows, then individual TVs on every headrest. Single movies became looping movie channels, then on-demand films. Films broadened to TV shows, documentaries, sport, news etc. Try going on a plane now that just has 6 movies playing on loop, you can't even pause them to sleep or go to the toilet - worst travel ever!
So when the NRL thinks we have this critical mass of online viewers, I expect it will move away from a relationship with Foxtel towards developing it's own direct-to-TV and -device content. Initially it will need to partner with online providers (like it does now with Telstra), and perhaps the infrastructure will remain so complicated that the NRL can never truly manage all it's own content and distribution. But ultimately you'd think they'd want to cut out the middle-man licences and obtain profits directly from viewers and advertisers.
@Yossarian said:@jirskyr said:@Yossarian said:I wonder if the NRL doesn't miss a trick by not having their own smart tv capable app and taking less from Foxtel. Personally I'd pay $20 for a specialised NRL channel and ditch Foxtel.
NRL are currently holding off doing this because NRL is so key to Foxtel subscriptions and Foxtel pay a lot of money for it. A significant mass of people still subscribe to the traditional FTA and pay-TV models. I don't think NRL can currently generate enough subscriptions via online services to risk cutting into Foxtel's pie.
But they did signal their intent by inviting Google (and I think Netflix) to the last round of TV rights discussions. I think as more and more people move towards on-demand online services like Netflix and Spotify, and as internet streaming becomes faster and with larger download allowances, we will see a critical mass of people moving away from traditional pay-TV.
I predict the continuing decline and perhaps even death of FTA and traditional pay TV, much like video/DVD rentals. Everything is moving online and people are starting to expect a broad array of on-demand content, particularly the more savvy and younger tech users.
To me, it's kind of like entertainment on a plane over the last 30 years. It used to be just one movie on the screen at the front, then they introduced overhead screens on the side rows, then individual TVs on every headrest. Single movies became looping movie channels, then on-demand films. Films broadened to TV shows, documentaries, sport, news etc. Try going on a plane now that just has 6 movies playing on loop, you can't even pause them to sleep or go to the toilet - worst travel ever!
So when the NRL thinks we have this critical mass of online viewers, I expect it will move away from a relationship with Foxtel towards developing it's own direct-to-TV and -device content. Initially it will need to partner with online providers (like it does now with Telstra), and perhaps the infrastructure will remain so complicated that the NRL can never truly manage all it's own content and distribution. But ultimately you'd think they'd want to cut out the middle-man licences and obtain profits directly from viewers and advertisers.
Yes I understand all this particularly the worth to Foxtel. What I'm saying if they could get enough FTA people who don't have Fox to sign up to their own service plus got Foxtel subs who really only want league it would be interesting to see if the numbers held up. US sports seem to favour a bit of a mix between dedicated steaming, cable and FTA.
Just an interesting angle to me.
@Yossarian said:Yes I understand all this particularly the worth to Foxtel. What I'm saying if they could get enough FTA people who don't have Fox to sign up to their own service plus got Foxtel subs who really only want league it would be interesting to see if the numbers held up. US sports seem to favour a bit of a mix between dedicated steaming, cable and FTA.
Just an interesting angle to me.
@jirskyr said:@Yossarian said:Yes I understand all this particularly the worth to Foxtel. What I'm saying if they could get enough FTA people who don't have Fox to sign up to their own service plus got Foxtel subs who really only want league it would be interesting to see if the numbers held up. US sports seem to favour a bit of a mix between dedicated steaming, cable and FTA.
Just an interesting angle to me.
It will happen like that, just not for the current or next TV deals which expire in 2022\. NRL cannot offer a TV service without breaking their contract with Foxtel, but I expect they are keeping a very close eye on the number of subscribers to the Digital Pass.
Perhaps by 2023 they will have the online subscription base to embolden them to take it to TV. Bearing in mind the cost to set up (or buy) the infrastructure that will allow them to televise footy without a third party.
@Yossarian said:Sadly the digital pass is rubbish. Well to me anyway. Unless i can watch on my smart TV I'm not budging. The AFL is pretty much ready to do all this tomorrow.
@jirskyr said:@Yossarian said:Sadly the digital pass is rubbish. Well to me anyway. Unless i can watch on my smart TV I'm not budging. The AFL is pretty much ready to do all this tomorrow.
Without having tested myself, I believe there are a number of methods of streaming mobile devices to TV that Digital Pass does not block. NRL cannot program against every single device or cable, however I myself would be wary that some methods would ultimately be blocked if common enough for the NRL to address.
I'm actually going to do it this year, having given up Foxtel. I'll post my experiences.
@Sataris said:What is the quality of the broadcast like?
I'm on a 1gbps connection so I expect it to be able to stream Full HD
@Spartan117 said:Had Livestream last year and it was really cool to be able to watch games during odd times.
Does anyone know if it works in USA??
@Yossarian said:@jirskyr said:@Yossarian said:Yes I understand all this particularly the worth to Foxtel. What I'm saying if they could get enough FTA people who don't have Fox to sign up to their own service plus got Foxtel subs who really only want league it would be interesting to see if the numbers held up. US sports seem to favour a bit of a mix between dedicated steaming, cable and FTA.
Just an interesting angle to me.
It will happen like that, just not for the current or next TV deals which expire in 2022\. NRL cannot offer a TV service without breaking their contract with Foxtel, but I expect they are keeping a very close eye on the number of subscribers to the Digital Pass.
Perhaps by 2023 they will have the online subscription base to embolden them to take it to TV. Bearing in mind the cost to set up (or buy) the infrastructure that will allow them to televise footy without a third party.
Sadly the digital pass is rubbish. Well to me anyway. Unless i can watch on my smart TV I'm not budging. The AFL is pretty much ready to do all this tomorrow.
@Fade To Black said:Weren't Foxtel supposed to be dedicating a channel solely to rugby league? Just like the AFL channel. Sure I heard that somewhere.
@Sataris said:So I didn't read the fine print and live matches are not available overseas.
Cancelled immediately, thank god for the free trial. Will probably go back to pirating matches.