NSW SOO Team

[Goose]

A few notes on peoples teams. I cant believe everyone is putting idris in without reservations?? Defensively takes poor options all the time, and he always comes back in which looks great but often ineffective even if he does bump off a few defenders, I actually reckon if he came in one position as a second rower he would be dynamic, he could do everything he was good at and not worry about reading the game so much.

Also Bird is a myth, way too many stupid mistakes and aggression is one thing, but it is useless if it results in giving away 3 penalties a game. He got big wraps in game 3 last year he madfe 4 errors, missed 6 tackles and gave away 3 penalties who cares if he is "built for origin"

The penrith boys, Lewis (i love him) is unfortunately out of form and now injured would be hard to pick and Jennings is playing absolutely rubbish, which is a shame. Gordon on the other hand as been his excellent self.

My team
1 Duggan
2, Hayne (his best spot IMO)
3\. Lyon
4 Gasnier
5 Gordon (Uate, B Morris also options, but we need a GK)
6\. Carney
7\. Pearce
13\. Fensome (dont expect many to agree, will tighten up the middle, the others will provide go forward)
12\. Gallen
11\. Creagh
10\. Tim Grant
9\. Robbie
8\. Snowden

Reserves
M. Aubusson (dont expect anyone to agree, fantastic player, could slot into the backs if required)
Galloway
Watmough
T Mannah

the side will look nothing like this however

 

[Marshall_magic]

Now, what I would go with

1\. Hayne (far too good to leave out. has almost won games before off his own brilliance, must play)
2\. Uate (love watching the thriller burn down the sidelines)
3\. Idris (finally living up to the hype. gave Inglis a bath, the talent is there)
4\. Lyon?? (no one really standing out, Jennings is playing himself out of a walk up start)
5\. Gordon (goal kicker. Morris for me is very poor positionally in defence, and Gordon is just as fast)
6\. Carney (another guys with X factor, no brainer)
7\. Pearce (level footing with Mullen right now, but he has a great combination with Carney, and we need to stick with a halfback, if Mullen does get the nod, leave him there for the series at very least)
8\. Snowden (was strong in his debut last year, deserves another crack)
9\. Ennis (Farah needs to have surgery, and doesn't deserve it on his 2011 form)
10\. Tolman (Hit up machine)
11\. Gallen (no brainer)
12\. Lewis © (most complete player NSW has, can do it all and play anywhere)
13\. Bird (have him roam, and hit the fringes)

14\. Gidley (may cop some heat for this, but he's played well when on the field this year, and did well in this spot last year, sub him on for Ennis late in the first half, then leave him on for the rest of the game. use him and Ennis in tandem for the last 15 minutes, with one of the ball playing backrowers coming off)
15\. Watmough (impact player, give him good ball on the fringes)
16\. Mannah (in great form)
17\. Learoyd Lahrs (impact player, done very well for NSW in the past)

Qld must laugh every time Lyons is picked He is Inglises Speed bump as seen two weeks ago

Who's a better option for the centres. Lawrence and Morris are injured and Jennings has been garbage so far this year. Idris will mark up against Inglis anyway, hopefully he gives the dropkick another bath.

 

[happy_tiger]

With the plethera of forwards NSW have maybe Luke Lewis could play in the centres . Morris should be back soon anyway if he is fit he should possibly get it But personally would like to see both Morris brothers on wings

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

A few notes on peoples teams. I cant believe everyone is putting idris in without reservations?? Defensively takes poor options all the time, and he always comes back in which looks great but often ineffective even if he does bump off a few defenders, I actually reckon if he came in one position as a second rower he would be dynamic, he could do everything he was good at and not worry about reading the game so much.

Also Bird is a myth, way too many stupid mistakes and aggression is one thing, but it is useless if it results in giving away 3 penalties a game. He got big wraps in game 3 last year he madfe 4 errors, missed 6 tackles and gave away 3 penalties who cares if he is "built for origin"

The penrith boys, Lewis (i love him) is unfortunately out of form and now injured would be hard to pick and Jennings is playing absolutely rubbish, which is a shame. Gordon on the other hand as been his excellent self.

My team
1 Duggan
2, Hayne (his best spot IMO)
3\. Lyon
4 Gasnier
5 Gordon (Uate, B Morris also options, but we need a GK)
6\. Carney
7\. Pearce
13\. Fensome (dont expect many to agree, will tighten up the middle, the others will provide go forward)
12\. Gallen
11\. Creagh
10\. Tim Grant
9\. Robbie
8\. Snowden

Reserves
M. Aubusson (dont expect anyone to agree, fantastic player, could slot into the backs if required)
Galloway
Watmough
T Mannah

the side will look nothing like this however

Pretty good side Goose. Grant & Fensom are good wild card picks. Creagh is a pillow though and will offer nothing.

I've made my reservations about Hayne known already. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Cultured Bogan
I've got two questions about your side
1.Do you expect Ennis to play 80min at hooker?
2.What happens if a back goes down in the first 5min of the game?

1\. Ennis would play 80 mins, he plays 80 minutes for Canterbury at the moment does he not? Whoever I selected at hooker would be expected to play 80 mins.
2\. Lewis from second row in centres/wing, Bird if the five eighth goes down. Gordon could slide to FB to accommodate Dugan.

 

[happy_tiger]

A few notes on peoples teams. I cant believe everyone is putting idris in without reservations?? Defensively takes poor options all the time, and he always comes back in which looks great but often ineffective even if he does bump off a few defenders, I actually reckon if he came in one position as a second rower he would be dynamic, he could do everything he was good at and not worry about reading the game so much.

Also Bird is a myth, way too many stupid mistakes and aggression is one thing, but it is useless if it results in giving away 3 penalties a game. He got big wraps in game 3 last year he madfe 4 errors, missed 6 tackles and gave away 3 penalties who cares if he is "built for origin"

The penrith boys, Lewis (i love him) is unfortunately out of form and now injured would be hard to pick and Jennings is playing absolutely rubbish, which is a shame. Gordon on the other hand as been his excellent self.

My team
1 Duggan
2, Hayne (his best spot IMO)
3\. Lyon
4 Gasnier
5 Gordon (Uate, B Morris also options, but we need a GK)
6\. Carney
7\. Pearce
13\. Fensome (dont expect many to agree, will tighten up the middle, the others will provide go forward)
12\. Gallen
11\. Creagh
10\. Tim Grant
9\. Robbie
8\. Snowden

Reserves
M. Aubusson (dont expect anyone to agree, fantastic player, could slot into the backs if required)
Galloway
Watmough
T Mannah

the side will look nothing like this however

Pretty good side Goose. Grant & Fensom are good wild card picks. Creagh is a pillow though and will offer nothing.

I've made my reservations about Hayne known already. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Tim Grant will be awesome at SOO level imo Think that Woods will be at same level in 2-3 years

 

[TIGER]

Weymen out long term, should be there if fit

Weyman has been totally dominated in every origin game he has played, he's a slug! even if he was the fittest man in the world he shouldn't be anywhere near a blues jersey.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Weymen out long term, should be there if fit

Weyman has been totally dominated in every origin game he has played, he's a slug! even if he was the fittest man in the world he shouldn't be anywhere near a blues jersey.

I'm glad someone else realises this.

 

[TIGER]

Cultured Bogan
I've got two questions about your side
1.Do you expect Ennis to play 80min at hooker?
2.What happens if a back goes down in the first 5min of the game?

1\. Ennis would play 80 mins, he plays 80 minutes for Canterbury at the moment does he not? Whoever I selected at hooker would be expected to play 80 mins.
2\. Lewis from second row in centres/wing, Bird if the five eighth goes down. Gordon could slide to FB to accommodate Dugan.

80min in soo is a different ball game to regular comp. Ennis would be useless after he knocked up, you need someone on the bench who can provide spark and threaten around the ruck but also fill a position if a outside back goes down, shuffling players is no good because it weakens two or three positions and NSW are weak enough as it is. So your saying if Dugan went down you would shift your winger to fullback and move you backrower to wing what a mess that would be. If you have Gidley on the bench he just slots in at fullback and you lose nothing. He's the modern day Craig Wing, and thats probably the only way he gets selected because i don't rate him other than his utility value.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Cultured Bogan
I've got two questions about your side
1.Do you expect Ennis to play 80min at hooker?
2.What happens if a back goes down in the first 5min of the game?

1\. Ennis would play 80 mins, he plays 80 minutes for Canterbury at the moment does he not? Whoever I selected at hooker would be expected to play 80 mins.
2\. Lewis from second row in centres/wing, Bird if the five eighth goes down. Gordon could slide to FB to accommodate Dugan.

80min in soo is a different ball game to regular comp. Ennis would be useless after he knocked up, you need someone on the bench who can provide spark and threaten around the ruck but also fill a position if a outside back goes down, shuffling players is no good because it weakens two or three positions and NSW are weak enough as it is. So your saying if Dugan went down you would shift your winger to fullback and move you backrower to wing what a mess that would be. If you have Gidley on the bench he just slots in at fullback and you lose nothing. He's the modern day Craig Wing, and thats probably the only way he gets selected because i don't rate him other than his utility value.

Why would it be a mess? Gordon has played a fullback numerous times and has filled the role quite ably, and Lewis started on the wing.

I have selected players where they should be playing, and have contingencies to cover injuries. Hookers are 80 minute players, Smith plays 80 minutes. What's NSW excuse? If your hooker doesn't fit in with the team dynamic in the first place, why field him? Using utilities in Origin is overrated. It hasn't worked for NSW for 5 years. Pick another prop or back rower so you don't get flogged up the middle every single year so the likes of Farah, Wallace, Pearce and Barrett aren't left to make poor 5th tackle options.

It's been the same issue for the last five years, and you want more of the same? I'm a QLD supporter, and I actually want to see NSW play well. NSW have ample ball playing backrowers who can move the ball much better than the Maroons and they opt for a utility every year so soon as Gidley runs on, you are missing a pig in the middle or out wide and get found out.

 

[Marshall_magic]

With the plethera of forwards NSW have maybe Luke Lewis could play in the centres . Morris should be back soon anyway if he is fit he should possibly get it But personally would like to see both Morris brothers on wings

No, Lewis hasn't played in the centres for several years and when he was last a regular centre he wasn't going that well. When he did move into the back row it rejuvinated his career. It would be like playing Ben Creagh in the centres.

 

[Jazza]

My side:

1\. Dugan
2\. Uate/B.Morris
3\. Idris
4\. J.Morris - I know he is injured but he is due back in about 2-3 weeks
5\. Gordon

6\. Carney
7\. Pearce

8\. Snowden
9\. Ennis - Farah needs to fix his injury up and I admit, in relation to the other NSW hookers around Ennis has probably been the best.
10\. Douglas
11\. Lewis
12\. Gallen
13\. Bird

14\. Galloway
15\. T Mannah
16\. Watmough
17\. TLL

18th man. Topou - Has started the season on fire, could provide some headaches with his hard running and offloading ability.

No bench utility, forwards to rotate with each other with the props being straight swaps for each other. This ensures maximum freshness that is needed to ensure we get over the QLD forwards. If there's an injury in the backs, Lewis can play anywhere and Gordon can play full back if needed. If there's an injury in the halves, either Lewis or Bird can move there. I think Lewis can play some hooker if needed as well.

 

[happy_tiger]

With the plethera of forwards NSW have maybe Luke Lewis could play in the centres . Morris should be back soon anyway if he is fit he should possibly get it But personally would like to see both Morris brothers on wings

No, Lewis hasn't played in the centres for several years and when he was last a regular centre he wasn't going that well. When he did move into the back row it rejuvinated his career. It would be like playing Ben Creagh in the centres.

Ok then it will have to be Gasnier in centres then My side

 

[happy_tiger]

1 Hayne
2 Morris
3 Gasnier
4 Idris
5 Morris
6 Carney
7 Pierce
8 Snowden
9 Gidley
10 Grant
11 Gallan
12 Lewis
13 Anasta
14 TLL
15 T Mannah
16 D Hunt
17 Heighington

 

[happy_tiger]

Sorry wanted to explain reasons for this side . All positons are covered by a replacement even goal kicking . Farah and Ennis not picked as I believe that your hooker must be able to go 80 minutes at origin level and Robbie isn't fit enough with injury . Anasta combination with Carney and Pierce gets him lock role and also back up kicker and good field goal kicker (VI in Origin games) . Dugan not picked due to injury issues . Bird not picked due to to being penalty prone . No backs on bench due to utility players in second row and lock .

 

[you_know_who]

So over Origin its not funny. I hope that none of our players get picked anyhow. The NSW selectors never ever pick there team on form and just pick players out of position all the time as well, thats why we have been flogged every game for the past 5 years. And Ricky Stuart is quoted as saying in the press that he would be happy to win just one game, what a joke that is.

 

[stryker]

So over Origin its not funny. I hope that none of our players get picked anyhow. The NSW selectors never ever pick there team on form and just pick players out of position all the time as well, thats why we have been flogged every game for the past 5 years. And Ricky Stuart is quoted as saying in the press that he would be happy to win just one game, what a joke that is.

Nsw time is coming if they pick the side on form. .and dont believe what ricky says. he wants a 3-0 score card.

 

[Rorko]

I seriously dont know how anyone has left Uate out of their teams, hes one of if not the best winger in the comp, With that said

1\. Hayne
2\. Uate
3\. Gasnier
4\. Idris
5\. Morris/Gordon
6\. Carney (GK)
7\. Mullen/Pearce
8\. Snowden
9\. Farah
10\. Tolman
11\. Learoyd-Lahrs
12\. Creagh
13\. Gallen ©

14\. Gidley
15\. Douglas
16\. Weyman
17\. Merrin

 

[TIGER]

From what i've seen of Carney and Pearce this season and especially the NZ game they couldn't possibly be picked as the halves pairing, that pass Pearce threw with his back turned to the defence that went to nobody and a Warriors player scoped it up and scored that says it all and Carney may as well of stayed in Australia because he is doing nothing. Good luck selectors on picking the best of the worst players to form a NSW team.

 

[MacDougall]

1\. Hayne
2\. Uate
3\. Idris
4\. Gordon
5\. Ferguson
6\. Carney
7\. Hodkinson
8\. Snowden
9\. Farah ©
10\. Tolman
11\. Gallen
12\. G Stewart
13\. Anasta

14\. Grant
15\. Mannah
16\. Learoyd-Lahrs
17\. Ayshford