Nsw Young guns vs Queensland Young guns (GREAT READ)

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Can 2019 NSW State of Origin team beat Queensland after passing of Maroon champs?
Tim Elbra The Daily Telegraph January 21, 2014 12:00AM

HOW does Josh Dugan v Ben Barba grab you, NSW State of Origin fans?

And do we finally have a fair fight in the halves with Adam Reynolds and Luke Brooks v Daly Cherry-Evans and Anthony Milford?

Can Andrew Fifita bully the likes of Josh McGuire in the front-row?

And will Boyd Cordner ultimately prove a better backrower than Josh Papalii?
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Within the next five years, a collection of Maroon champions will have left the scene. It will be the Blues' chance to get back on even footing.
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Taking into account which players may be phased out of both sides over the next five years, we've had an educated guess as to how the next-¬generation Maroons and Blues may look.

All of a sudden, Queensland doesn't have an obvious edge in class. Here is a look at the key areas. (Ages of players based on 2019).

QUEENSLAND 2019

1\. Ben Barba (29) 2\. Justin O'Neill (27) 3\. Dane Gagai (28) 4\. Greg Inglis (32) 5\. Edrick Lee (26) 6\. Anthony Milford (24) 7\. Daly Cherry-Evans (29) 8\. Josh McGuire (28) 9\. Jake Friend (28) 10\. Matt Scott (33) 11\. Chris McQueen (31) 12\. Josh Papalii (26) 13\. Matt Gillett (30). Interchange: 14\. Michael Morgan (27) 15\. Korbin Sims (27) 16\. Aidan Guerra (30) 17\. Dylan Napa (26)

Teenage ace Anthony Milford at this month's Queensland Emerging Origin squad…
Teenage ace Anthony Milford at this month’s Queensland Emerging Origin squad session.Source: News Limited
NSW 2019

1\. Josh Dugan (28) 2\. Will Hopoate (26) 3\. Jarryd Hayne (30) 4\. Michael Jennings (30) 5\. Jorge Taufua (27) 6\. Luke Brooks (24) 7\. Adam Reynolds (28) 8\. Andrew Fifita (29) 9\. Mitch Rein (28) 10\. Aaron Woods (27) 11\. Boyd Cordner (26) 12\. Josh Jackson (28) 13\. Trent Merrin (29). Interchange: 14\. Josh Reynolds (29) 15\. Ryan James (27) 16\. David Klemmer (25) 17\. Bryce Cartwright (24)

Budding NSW and Wests Tigers superstar Luke Brooks during last season's Ho...
Budding NSW and Wests Tigers superstar Luke Brooks during last season’s Holden Cup.Source: News Limited
EXPERIENCE

Nine players from this NSW line-up have already played Origin, while just six of the Queenslanders have been there before. So the nod here goes to the Blues - although, let's face it, the guys who have played for NSW during the current era haven't had a great time of things.

Also, halfback Cherry-Evans will likely be a seasoned Maroons superstar five years down the track and is the only half from either team to have played Origin.

We could have left Mitchell Pearce in the NSW team, given he is still just 24, but ran with the widely held view that Rabbitohs playmaker Adam Reynolds will get a crack at the No.7 jersey in coming years.

Both sides will retain a strong core of experience in the forwards. Should Jarryd Hayne still be in action for the Blues, he could overtake former captain Brad Fittler's record of 31 games for NSW.

VERDICT: NSW

SPINE

Based on the fact Cherry-Evans should cement himself in the champion category in coming seasons, you've got to go with Queensland here.

Halfback rival Reynolds is an unknown property at the higher level and yet to assert himself in the high-stakes world of NRL finals - to the extent that he was deemed not ready for Origin as Souths bombed out last season.

With Milford and Brooks at five-eighth, you have a potential superstar on either side, though both teenagers are unproven quantities so early in their careers.

Brooks is the great white hope of NSW, so highly regarded he has been branded the next Andrew Johns.

Future Queensland hooker Jake Friend was unlucky not to get a nod for the World Cup campaign, so we'll give him the thumbs up over promising Dragons rake Mitch Rein.

In the battle of the fullbacks, it's a case of splitting hairs between two brilliant but erratic talents in Barba and Dugan.

VERDICT: Queensland

Our future NSW team has four big men who boast Origin experience. Then there are the rookies: Titans prop Ryan James, Bulldogs backrower Josh Jackson, Dogs prop David Klemmer and Penrith tyro Bryce Cartwright.

Queensland also have four capped players, while their new men are Josh McGuire, Korbin Sims, Aidan Guerra and Dylan Napa.

The already-blooded Blues forwards should be in their prime, led by reigning Dally M positional players of the year - prop Andrew Fifita and ¬second-rower Boyd Cordner.

Maroons prop Matt Scott will by then be channelling Petero Civoniceva as a veteran, but Papalii will likely grow into a monstrous force.

The Blues enjoy an edge in size through three monsters in Fifita, James and the hugely promising Klemmer.

VERDICT: NSW
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OUTSIDE BACKS

Our theoretical Blues are huge and powerful on the flanks. The only newcomer is Manly wing dynamo Jorge Taufua.

Established stars Jarryd Hayne and Michael Jennings will still be carving up in the centres and one-game NSW superstar Will Hopoate will be back on the wing after his Mormon mission.

The Maroons aren't bad ¬either. Greg Inglis should be in Immortal territory by then. Justin O'Neill, Dane Gagai and Edrick Lee are handy talents. But outside of the incomparable Inglis the Blues look to have an edge in class here.

VERDICT: NSW
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WHO WILL WIN?

NSW has claimed three of our four categories, so on that basis we can declare the Blues will reclaim supremacy in the future.

However, as we've stressed above, Queensland's ownership of budding great Cherry-Evans is a massive factor in the Maroons' favour.

Also significant will be the incredible culture of success developed by the Maroons during their unprecedented eight-series winning streak in Origin - which could stretch to a decade and beyond before their champion players call it quits.

Will NSW be capable of beating Queensland in coming seasons?

Certainly the teams look much more even on paper.
 
good read! although no idea why they chose 2019 as the year, it's too far in the future! notice how all the players selected are at least 26 except brooks? it's cause we have no idea about the even younger talents coming up and how they will fair.

they shoulda done 2017 imo, but it's still a good article (especially from the daily telegraph).

surprised there was no mention of nofoaluma too. have heard a bit of talk from non-tigers fans and other forums that he could be playing origin within a couple of years. we'll see if he really has what it takes during 2014.
 
So NSW finally win a series in 2019

So that will be after 13 straight series defeats

At this rate we will run out of Avatars for Sabre (or the artist formally known as Saber)

SOO could be dead before 2019
 
@happy tiger said:
So NSW finally win a series in 2019

So that will be after 13 straight series defeats

At this rate we will run out of Avatars for Sabre (or the artist formally known as Saber)

SOO could be dead before 2019

LOL i reckon you toads will win again in 2014 and then our young guns will bring the heat.
 
As long as Qld, win the next 2 yrs so it's 10 in a row then nsw can win one I spoze. :slight_smile:

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I don't watch SOO anymore, its pointless. It should be called State of Choice.

SOO was introduced to stop Qld talent being selected for NSW because they played in the NSWRL competition so they were eligible to play for that state.

The rules are so absurd now that it's embarrassing. And we still can't get it right. The young fella just recently told he has to play for NSW because he only ticked one box out of five????? He was born and bred in Qld FFS!

One simple rule when it comes to "State of Origin" - where were you born?

Yep there will always be someone, somewhere who feels hard done by. But show me your birth certificate and I'll tell you who you play for!

There are many sports where people emigrate and qualify under certain rules (cricket, swimming, rugby etc) but none of them use the term "State of Origin"

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I thought it was cause he fulfilled the MAJORITY of those 5 or 6 rules for NSW, like first junior club and things like that.

but you're right, that was abysmal.
 
I do agree the rules are stupid …. Birth certificate for sure it's where you're born but I still want my state to win go Qld.

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:roll what a stupid article.
The conjecture within is the type a 14 year old comes up with. I wouldn't expect anymore than 2/3rds of those named will be around in 2019.
Some will leave the NRL, some will retire early due to injury, whilst others will not make the squads due to the influx of youth.
Anyway, whatever gives NSWelshmen hope I guess… :crazy
 
@stryker said:
:roll what a stupid article.
The conjecture within is the type a 14 year old comes up with. I wouldn't expect anymore than 2/3rds of those named will be around in 2019.
Some will leave the NRL, some will retire early due to injury, whilst others will not make the squads due to the influx of youth.
Anyway, whatever gives NSWelshmen hope I guess… :crazy

so winning the NYC comp and SG Ball comp twice means the tigers have a good opportunity to capitalise on the youth coming up but the blues winning U20s origin twice means nothing.
 
Not saying that at all. I agree the blues have a good nursery and that is my point. It is folly to predict who will win the 2019 series when there could well and most probably will be players in that series who havent even played top grade yet.
That's why it is a silly article. How about concentrating on getting the 2014 line up correct instead of relying on retirements to attain victory. That is admitting defeat and is laughable.
 
@stryker said:
Not saying that at all. I agree the blues have a good nursery and that is my point. It is folly to predict who will win the 2019 series when there could well and most probably will be players in that series who havent even played top grade yet.
That's why it is a silly article. **How about concentrating on getting the 2014 line up correct instead of relying on retirements to attain victory. That is admitting defeat and is laughable.**

Good point….....I agree as well,we will see what happens in 2014 i guess.
 
I don't think the article was meant to be taken too seriously… A bit of fun to fill in the offseason and sell a few newspapers to league loving fans

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