Our Club History vs the roarters

crazycat

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/in-demand-smith-blown-away-by-roosters/100658112

Why is Brandon Smith blown away by the history of Easts?

Yes, the club has a history and its fans. Souths have 'the book of Feuids' or whatever detailing their skirmishes.

We have the Proud history of the Magpies, underdogs and poor working class guys who have fought all the way every day. Tommy, our Lidcombe sausage sizzle, us fighting tooth and nail. Likewise Balmain, Elias, Blocker Roach and much much more history.

Why is the flight deck impressing people. Or more to the point why are people not looking at us and seeing a Combined Rugby history to rival both Easts and Souths???

Somehow Easts can brag about their culture while flicking mitchell pearce like a used towel. Yet we dont get treated the same?

I think were trying to build culture right. I was glad to hear Nathan Cayless talk about Granville as his stomping grounds. He gets it. Do we as a Club get it?
 
@crazycat said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512137) said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/in-demand-smith-blown-away-by-roosters/100658112

Why is Brandon Smith blown away by the history of Easts?

Yes, the club has a history and its fans. Souths have 'the book of Feuids' or whatever detailing their skirmishes.

We have the Proud history of the Magpies, underdogs and poor working class guys who have fought all the way every day. Tommy, our Lidcombe sausage sizzle, us fighting tooth and nail. Likewise Balmain, Elias, Blocker Roach and much much more history.

Why is the flight deck impressing people. Or more to the point why are people not looking at us and seeing a Combined Rugby history to rival both Easts and Souths???

Somehow Easts can brag about their culture while flicking mitchell pearce like a used towel. Yet we dont get treated the same?

I think were trying to build culture right. I was glad to hear Nathan Cayless talk about Granville as his stomping grounds. He gets it. Do we as a Club get it?


I take your point but in one of the articles I read it finished with the cheese being super impressed at the club (Roosters) looking after players once their footy is finished. Jobs for the boys for life. Add to that a real possibility of multiple premierships and its not really a hard choice imo.
 
@tigerbalm said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512143) said:
@crazycat said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512137) said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/in-demand-smith-blown-away-by-roosters/100658112

Why is Brandon Smith blown away by the history of Easts?

Yes, the club has a history and its fans. Souths have 'the book of Feuids' or whatever detailing their skirmishes.

We have the Proud history of the Magpies, underdogs and poor working class guys who have fought all the way every day. Tommy, our Lidcombe sausage sizzle, us fighting tooth and nail. Likewise Balmain, Elias, Blocker Roach and much much more history.

Why is the flight deck impressing people. Or more to the point why are people not looking at us and seeing a Combined Rugby history to rival both Easts and Souths???

Somehow Easts can brag about their culture while flicking mitchell pearce like a used towel. Yet we dont get treated the same?

I think were trying to build culture right. I was glad to hear Nathan Cayless talk about Granville as his stomping grounds. He gets it. Do we as a Club get it?


I take your point but in one of the articles I read it finished with the cheese being super impressed at the club (Roosters) looking after players once their footy is finished. Jobs for the boys for life. Add to that a real possibility of multiple premierships and its not really a hard choice imo.

I can see the cheese fitting in quite well in the eastern suburbs party life.

It's all about history.
 
Its as blatant as it can be - without crossing the obvious line.
It is obvious how they are able to pay "unders" and it isn't to "win a premiership" which is the stock standard line; it is that they are "looked after" for life. Give up 200K or so now for a few years to be set for life after that.
Anyone who also buys the whole "Nick just called the guys to see how they are from LA because he cares" - seriously, what a coincidence that a busy business man called, from LA, a couple of retired footballers to check on them - just as they also happened to be on the golf course with the hottest signing prospect at the moment"...seriously.... powers that be have their heads so far up themselves..... they just don't care.
 
I would find it hard to not sign for the Roosters. I would totally sign for unders if it meant being in a good working environment. I'm sure all of you have worked in a toxic place at one point in your life. These guys are already earning so much money that a small paycut barely even registers.

Playing in a bad team might not be what makes you happy.
 
@tigerbalm said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512143) said:
@crazycat said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512137) said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/in-demand-smith-blown-away-by-roosters/100658112

Why is Brandon Smith blown away by the history of Easts?

Yes, the club has a history and its fans. Souths have 'the book of Feuids' or whatever detailing their skirmishes.

We have the Proud history of the Magpies, underdogs and poor working class guys who have fought all the way every day. Tommy, our Lidcombe sausage sizzle, us fighting tooth and nail. Likewise Balmain, Elias, Blocker Roach and much much more history.

Why is the flight deck impressing people. Or more to the point why are people not looking at us and seeing a Combined Rugby history to rival both Easts and Souths???

Somehow Easts can brag about their culture while flicking mitchell pearce like a used towel. Yet we dont get treated the same?

I think were trying to build culture right. I was glad to hear Nathan Cayless talk about Granville as his stomping grounds. He gets it. Do we as a Club get it?


I take your point but in one of the articles I read it finished with the cheese being super impressed at the club (Roosters) looking after players once their footy is finished. Jobs for the boys for life. Add to that a real possibility of multiple premierships and its not really a hard choice imo.

Exact same thing we got fined for with Robbie. But ours was unfortunately documented.
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512150) said:
I would find it hard to not sign for the Roosters. I would totally sign for unders if it meant being in a good working environment. I'm sure all of you have worked in a toxic place at one point in your life. These guys are already earning so much money that a small paycut barely even registers.

Playing in a bad team might not be what makes you happy.

I Agree and I would also sign with them but I think the reason most are pissed is because the NRL is meant to have a salary cap so the comp is at a semi even playing field.
A club like us offers a club legend a job for when he finishing playing and we get ripped over the coals and get our salary cap effected for 2 years...
Yet Clubs like the Roosters have like 10+ Rep players and even last year with all the injuries they could still put out a team each week that most bottom 8 teams could only dream of having... They have ex players helping with recruitment and playing Golf at top line courses (of course it would be fully paid for - Wink Wink ) ..

Clearly they know how to rort the system and good for them but I think the NRL need to step in and address how players are accounted for - How they do that I'm not sure if its a draft, points system, IDK TBH but for me I am over the same teams every year in the finals..

And before people comment YES we need to get better at this process to improve.

I think the Storm Management and players would be pissed with Smith after his interview.. .
 
the Sydney Roosters are an exception to many a rule in sport. miniscule local junior base, low memberships and crowds and a very very small catchment area. the reason for the exception? Nick Politis. he's a genius, and as much as I despise them, he is the best Chairman in the country by a distance.

the chooks were irrelevant for years until Gus turned them into a respectable footy side and bought Fittler. with Politis' help they created a juggernaut and never looked back. I would say we have far more history on both sides of the joint venture and WT itself, it's just that we don't have the pulling power and influence that Politis and Gus have/had. Trent Robinson is a brilliant coach and Mitch Aubusson is one of the greatest clubmen ever, but it all comes back to what Uncle Nick, Gus and Freddy built in the 90s.
 
@magpie_magic said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512146) said:
@tigerbalm said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512143) said:
@crazycat said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512137) said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/in-demand-smith-blown-away-by-roosters/100658112

Why is Brandon Smith blown away by the history of Easts?

Yes, the club has a history and its fans. Souths have 'the book of Feuids' or whatever detailing their skirmishes.

We have the Proud history of the Magpies, underdogs and poor working class guys who have fought all the way every day. Tommy, our Lidcombe sausage sizzle, us fighting tooth and nail. Likewise Balmain, Elias, Blocker Roach and much much more history.

Why is the flight deck impressing people. Or more to the point why are people not looking at us and seeing a Combined Rugby history to rival both Easts and Souths???

Somehow Easts can brag about their culture while flicking mitchell pearce like a used towel. Yet we dont get treated the same?

I think were trying to build culture right. I was glad to hear Nathan Cayless talk about Granville as his stomping grounds. He gets it. Do we as a Club get it?


I take your point but in one of the articles I read it finished with the cheese being super impressed at the club (Roosters) looking after players once their footy is finished. Jobs for the boys for life. Add to that a real possibility of multiple premierships and its not really a hard choice imo.

I can see the cheese fitting in quite well in the eastern suburbs party life.

It's all about history.

The history of white powder

And it's free
 
We, as a combined club, find it difficult to embrace our history for fear of offending the other half of the joint venture. To counter this, the club is trying start our history at 2000, making us one of the younger teams in the competition. We still don't have one home ground.
 
@tiger_scott said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512172) said:
We, as a combined club, find it difficult to embrace our history for fear of offending the other half of the joint venture. To counter this, the club is trying start our history at 2000, making us one of the younger teams in the competition. We still don't have one home ground.

That's a good point. Luckily we at least have 2005.
 
I'm going to let you all in on a suspicion i have. Most RL players would not know tradition if they tripped over it coming out of the local nightclub. What they want is personal/team glory and financial reward. Any thing else they talk about is BS.
Note: there maybe the odd exception but they are very far in between.
 
Personally, there's no comparison - there's Wests Tigers (aka incl. Magpies and Tigers since 1908) and then there's ........ NOBODY.

We are the only club in my mind, the only club that I care about, the only club that I hold close to my heart, mind and spirit, in good times and not, Wests Tigers will be my only choice ever.
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512150) said:
I would find it hard to not sign for the Roosters. I would totally sign for unders if it meant being in a good working environment. I'm sure all of you have worked in a toxic place at one point in your life. These guys are already earning so much money that a small paycut barely even registers.

Playing in a bad team might not be what makes you happy.

You call between $100 and $300K per season a small paycut? It's not like these guys are choosing Roosters for $30K less... what did they report the Warriors were offering Manu, in the vicinity of $1M? Bet your bottom dollar Roosters aren't paying Manu $1M, and if so, he's taking a several hundred thousand dollar haircut to stay at Roosters.

All I ever hear footballers say is how short careers can be and how you need to set yourself up, how it can all be over in an instant, how so many footballers don't make it... but they will also turn down half a million to a million bucks over a 3-year deal? Naah
 
@jrtiger said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512159) said:
the Sydney Roosters are an exception to many a rule in sport. miniscule local junior base, low memberships and crowds and a very very small catchment area. the reason for the exception? Nick Politis. he's a genius, and as much as I despise them, he is the best Chairman in the country by a distance.

the chooks were irrelevant for years until Gus turned them into a respectable footy side and bought Fittler. with Politis' help they created a juggernaut and never looked back. I would say we have far more history on both sides of the joint venture and WT itself, it's just that we don't have the pulling power and influence that Politis and Gus have/had. Trent Robinson is a brilliant coach and Mitch Aubusson is one of the greatest clubmen ever, but it all comes back to what Uncle Nick, Gus and Freddy built in the 90s.

You can thank Rupert Murdoch for destabilising the competition in 1995 and providing the opening for Roosters to make their power play.
 
@kiwitiger said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512228) said:
I'm going to let you all in on a suspicion i have. Most RL players would not know tradition if they tripped over it coming out of the local nightclub. What they want is personal/team glory and financial reward. Any thing else they talk about is BS.
Note: there maybe the odd exception but they are very far in between.

I'd ask Cheese to name 2 or 3 players from the Roosters 1975 Premiership team... hell even the 2002 or 2013 teams, could he manage 4 or 5 players?
 
@kiwitiger said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512228) said:
I'm going to let you all in on a suspicion i have. Most RL players would not know tradition if they tripped over it coming out of the local nightclub. What they want is personal/team glory and financial reward. Any thing else they talk about is BS.
Note: there maybe the odd exception but they are very far in between.

Nailed it. Most nrl players couldn't spell tradition let alone understand it's meaning.
 
@rustycage said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512309) said:
@kiwitiger said in [Our Club History vs the roarters](/post/1512228) said:
I'm going to let you all in on a suspicion i have. Most RL players would not know tradition if they tripped over it coming out of the local nightclub. What they want is personal/team glory and financial reward. Any thing else they talk about is BS.
Note: there maybe the odd exception but they are very far in between.

Nailed it. Most nrl players couldn't spell tradition let alone understand it's meaning.

Yep, tradition and pride and loyalty to your club and jumper is for us stupid supporters....
 
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