Outside backs

[Nelson]

I don’t even think Douhie passes the ball to Jimmy... it’s like he’s scared for some reason..

Douhie should be bringing the defenders in and passing through to JTJ for a quick run..

Imo, even family and friends think that JTJ doesn’t get enough ball... BUTTT he should be going out and finding it..

He does go looking for the ball, he was showing up on the opposite side of the field yesterday and gets in and tries to work out of dummy half.

Yeah he goes in, takes a pointless sideways run out of dummy half and then bludges around behind play and out of position for the rest of the attacking set. He's rarely in a position for a structured play to be made on his edge.

We don't need him to take runs out of dummy half. We don't need him to run 20 metres sideways and put himself out of position while he slowly ambles back with hands on hips. He has produced nothing doing these things and nor has he looked like producing anything. He should just stick to the basics and present as an option in the line and as an option for attacking kicks...and preferably he should do that in reggies until he shows some marked improvement in fitness.

 

[mike]

I don’t even think Douhie passes the ball to Jimmy... it’s like he’s scared for some reason..

Douhie should be bringing the defenders in and passing through to JTJ for a quick run..

Imo, even family and friends think that JTJ doesn’t get enough ball... BUTTT he should be going out and finding it..

He does go looking for the ball, he was showing up on the opposite side of the field yesterday and gets in and tries to work out of dummy half.

Yeah he goes in, takes a pointless sideways run out of dummy half and then bludges around behind play and out of position for the rest of the attacking set. He's rarely in a position for a structured play to be made on his edge.

We don't need him to take runs out of dummy half. We don't need him to run 20 metres sideways and put himself out of position while he slowly ambles back with hands on hips. He has produced nothing doing these things and nor has he looked like producing anything. He should just stick to the basics and present as an option in the line and as an option for attacking kicks...and preferably he should do that in reggies until he shows some marked improvement in fitness.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Go figure.

 

[cochise]

I don’t even think Douhie passes the ball to Jimmy... it’s like he’s scared for some reason..

Douhie should be bringing the defenders in and passing through to JTJ for a quick run..

Imo, even family and friends think that JTJ doesn’t get enough ball... BUTTT he should be going out and finding it..

He does go looking for the ball, he was showing up on the opposite side of the field yesterday and gets in and tries to work out of dummy half.

I do see this, but still - doesn’t get enough ball really.

That is due to game plan and the players inside him.

So really, the game plan comes from the coach, so it’s the coaches problem you’re saying?

Or are the players not following the game plan.. hahah

I think it is coming from the coach, we play very flat in attack and both our halves go right to the line on the majority of plays.

 

[cochise]

I don’t even think Douhie passes the ball to Jimmy... it’s like he’s scared for some reason..

Douhie should be bringing the defenders in and passing through to JTJ for a quick run..

Imo, even family and friends think that JTJ doesn’t get enough ball... BUTTT he should be going out and finding it..

He does go looking for the ball, he was showing up on the opposite side of the field yesterday and gets in and tries to work out of dummy half.

Yeah he goes in, takes a pointless sideways run out of dummy half and then bludges around behind play and out of position for the rest of the attacking set. He's rarely in a position for a structured play to be made on his edge.

We don't need him to take runs out of dummy half. We don't need him to run 20 metres sideways and put himself out of position while he slowly ambles back with hands on hips. He has produced nothing doing these things and nor has he looked like producing anything. He should just stick to the basics and present as an option in the line and as an option for attacking kicks...and preferably he should do that in reggies until he shows some marked improvement in fitness.

I could count the times he has been given the ball in space on one hand. Doueihi is extremely difficult to run off has he has a very awkward running style. His biggest strength is actually his biggest weakness for players playing outside him.

 

[Nelson]

I don’t even think Douhie passes the ball to Jimmy... it’s like he’s scared for some reason..

Douhie should be bringing the defenders in and passing through to JTJ for a quick run..

Imo, even family and friends think that JTJ doesn’t get enough ball... BUTTT he should be going out and finding it..

He does go looking for the ball, he was showing up on the opposite side of the field yesterday and gets in and tries to work out of dummy half.

Yeah he goes in, takes a pointless sideways run out of dummy half and then bludges around behind play and out of position for the rest of the attacking set. He's rarely in a position for a structured play to be made on his edge.

We don't need him to take runs out of dummy half. We don't need him to run 20 metres sideways and put himself out of position while he slowly ambles back with hands on hips. He has produced nothing doing these things and nor has he looked like producing anything. He should just stick to the basics and present as an option in the line and as an option for attacking kicks...and preferably he should do that in reggies until he shows some marked improvement in fitness.

I could count the times he has been given the ball in space on one hand. Doueihi is extremely difficult to run off has he has a very awkward running style. His biggest strength is actually his biggest weakness for players playing outside him.

You should probably reserve judgment on that until you see someone other than Roberts playing outside him in the centres...

 

[Cairnstigers]

With people suggesting we try Laurie in the halves with Doueihi, what are people's thoughts on leaving Laurie at Fullback and trying Liddle to partner Doueihi in the halves
We could then have Brooks in the 14 Jersey

Just on Liddle
Defence is solid
Can play 80 minutes
Can pass left and right
Can dart out from Dummy Half with his speed
Has spent enough time in the game to know what a half is ment to do
Does he possess a kicking game ? Can't do any worse could he

The biggest question is, can he think quicker and come up with better plays/Options then Brooks

I think I would rather try that option then moving Laurie

Having both Simpkin and Liddle on the field would help our defence I assume
Both capable of making in excess of 50 tackles

Besides, didn't we have both on the field at the same time in the Manly trial
And we haven't seen it since

 

[cochise]

I don’t even think Douhie passes the ball to Jimmy... it’s like he’s scared for some reason..

Douhie should be bringing the defenders in and passing through to JTJ for a quick run..

Imo, even family and friends think that JTJ doesn’t get enough ball... BUTTT he should be going out and finding it..

He does go looking for the ball, he was showing up on the opposite side of the field yesterday and gets in and tries to work out of dummy half.

Yeah he goes in, takes a pointless sideways run out of dummy half and then bludges around behind play and out of position for the rest of the attacking set. He's rarely in a position for a structured play to be made on his edge.

We don't need him to take runs out of dummy half. We don't need him to run 20 metres sideways and put himself out of position while he slowly ambles back with hands on hips. He has produced nothing doing these things and nor has he looked like producing anything. He should just stick to the basics and present as an option in the line and as an option for attacking kicks...and preferably he should do that in reggies until he shows some marked improvement in fitness.

I could count the times he has been given the ball in space on one hand. Doueihi is extremely difficult to run off has he has a very awkward running style. His biggest strength is actually his biggest weakness for players playing outside him.

You should probably reserve judgment on that until you see someone other than Roberts playing outside him in the centres...

Mate, I was saying this before Roberts had ever played outside him. He had the same issue playing at fullback.

 

[Sco77y]

Laurie is very safe but he is so small. The difference between a Laurie and a turbo is that the big fullbacks can push through that half break into the open field.

Noticed this too, and I'm trying not to compare him with Corey Thompson, but have we made the same mistake here? Corey Thompson was pretty solid, skills wise. Always gave 100%, but just wasn't a game breaker, or at the very least trusted to hold down a key position. The general consensus being that he was just too small.

Anyone else concerned this is what we're headed for again?

 

[cochise]

With people suggesting we try Laurie in the halves with Doueihi, what are people's thoughts on leaving Laurie at Fullback and trying Liddle to partner Doueihi in the halves
We could then have Brooks in the 14 Jersey

Just on Liddle
Defence is solid
Can play 80 minutes
Can pass left and right
Can dart out from Dummy Half with his speed
Has spent enough time in the game to know what a half is ment to do
Does he possess a kicking game ? Can't do any worse could he

The biggest question is, can he think quicker and come up with better plays/Options then Brooks

I think I would rather try that option then moving Laurie

Having both Simpkin and Liddle on the field would help our defence I assume
Both capable of making in excess of 50 tackles

Besides, didn't we have both on the field at the same time in the Manly trial
And we haven't seen it since

I would try Madden before Liddle.

 

[getagrip]

do you look at Laurie at 6 and trying nofo at fullback

Nothing to lose at this stage.

Adam D at 6 is working for me but he just needs a decent 7.
I think we give Madden a go as you never know until you try. Cini is a must for me as he consistently over 200m a game and works his backside off. Amore is also a must as he is a meter eater.

I've frequently been told on the forum that our half-back steers the team around on the park and is most important to our attack, while the five eighth mostly brings our outside backs into the game. So on that assumption, how exactly does Doueihi escape criticism?
As poor as our outside backs have looked they don't seem to be getting adequate ball and as much as I like him as a player, he's not sharp enough to distribute the ball evenly.

I understand the flaws in Luke's game and that he doesn't exactly assert himself as a team leader but there's a number of issues in this team overall with all our spine members showing some deficiencies in one or two vital areas of their games.

There should be little or no room for error for the whole team.

I would like to see how this team functions with a different number 7. If Madden can bring to this team a smoothness that Brooks doesn't, then part of the problem is solved. All I have seen lately is Douehi taking on more of Brook's responsibilities and getting bogged down.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

with nofo at 1 it takes away the defensive reads and his running the ball back is abd has always been very good.

 

[cochise]

with nofo at 1 it takes away the defensive reads and his running the ball back is abd has always been very good.

No thank you

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

do you look at Laurie at 6 and trying nofo at fullback

Nofo doesn't jump for the high ball on the wing what would he do at FB

 

[hobbo1]

do you look at Laurie at 6 and trying nofo at fullback

Nofo doesn't jump for the high ball on the wing what would he do at FB

I know Saab is a giraffe but Nuffoluza’s attempt at a jump was downright laughable ..
why not wait until Saab catches it then belt him ..

 

[Snake]

do you look at Laurie at 6 and trying nofo at fullback

Nofo doesn't jump for the high ball on the wing what would he do at FB

The Chairman would have to Rubber stamp that positional move for Nofo!

 

[balmain boy]

Most bizarre thread ever. People criticising the only two backs that have showed any kind of good form and ability whatsoever, yet are praising Jtj who's been utterly useless and like a doll bludger just getting his paycheck while putting in the minimal amount of work possible.

And even talk of Nof playing fullback?! That's just frightening. He's not even good enough to play on the wing. Needs a spell on NSW cup