OFFICIAL Pathways - KOE General Discussion

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Halbrowne61 said:
Given the change in first grade coach do you think Lambkin will survive without Sheens or will there be a flow on effect ?
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I really hope we freshen things up at this level and take a good look at how we progress players through our senior pathways. I believe at a junior level with all our cubs programs we are well on track and offering those kids great opportunites to further their game.. However, utilising our best juniors beyond this and the disconnect between Flegg, Cup and NRL has been terrible.

Our KOE team this year has been so ordinary. From selections, game plan, interchange use, we haven't got much right at this level. Lambkin might have been great with the Westfields kids, but I just don't know whether he has what it takes to get our players ready for NRL. The majority of our 2023 debutants appeared to play more Flegg than cup this year before debuting. Lambkin seems a great bloke, but I would be hoping we look to make changes.
 
There might be a role for Lambkin within our pathways systems but not as coach of the reserves. The performances of our reserve grade sides have been terrible ever since Drinkwater left to play in the ESL. These players are important back up to the top side and should be coached by a quality coach. Maybe it's time to give Robbie Mears a promotion.
 
coivtny said:
There might be a role for Lambkin within our pathways systems but not as coach of the reserves. The performances of our reserve grade sides have been terrible ever since Drinkwater left to play in the ESL. These players are important back up to the top side and should be coached by a quality coach. Maybe it's time to give Robbie Mears a promotion.
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Are we looking at the performance of the team or, the number of young players passing through the NSW Cup to the NRL team? To me the latter is far more important to WTs which survives on development.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
Are we looking at the performance of the team or, the number of young players passing through the NSW Cup to the NRL team? To me the latter is far more important to WTs which survives on development.
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I agree player development is number one but if a team is poorly coached you'll not get development either. Generally players will develop in a good team, coached well. The quality teams usually have well-performed reserve grade teams.
 
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coivtny said:
I agree player development is number one but if a team is poorly coached you'll not get development either. Generally players will develop in a good team, coached well. The quality teams usually have well-performed reserve grade teams.
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That is all true. In our case we just don't have the depth quality teams do so in a way our NSW Cup coach will always be up against it.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
That is all true. In our case we just don't have the depth quality teams do so in a way our NSW Cup coach will always be up against it.
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I'm not sure Paws. A few years ago the Sharks were not much better than we are now. They slowly built and took a few of our discards along the way and now they are one of the top clubs and will stay that way for years to come. They have very good juniors and their reserve grade side (Newtown) is a very good side. If we manage ourselves well there' s no reason we can't reach similar heights. But the front office (Pascoe etc) is our biggest obstacle. Fix that and we're on our way.
 
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I'm not sure Paws. A few years ago the Sharks were not much better than we are now. They slowly built and took a few of our discards along the way and now they are one of the top clubs and will stay that way for years to come. They have very good juniors and their reserve grade side (Newtown) is a very good side. If we manage ourselves well there' s no reason we can't reach similar heights. But the front office (Pascoe etc) is our biggest obstacle. Fix that and we're on our way.
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Sharks have done well and a lot of work went into their Pathways system. Hopefully one of the main architects of that will agree to come to WTs. I agree if we can get our act together WTs will be a force.
 
coivtny said:
There might be a role for Lambkin within our pathways systems but not as coach of the reserves. The performances of our reserve grade sides have been terrible ever since Drinkwater left to play in the ESL. These players are important back up to the top side and should be coached by a quality coach. Maybe it's time to give Robbie Mears a promotion.
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We had a good coach in reserve grade - Ben Gardiner - until the club moved him into a FG assistant, followed by showing him the door. Another bad decision by our Zurich Overlords.

You don't get to the bottom of the ladder through bad luck. It comes from a sustained effort of bad decisions. Not retaining Ben Gardiner is one of the many bad decisions our club has made over the last few years, not even accounting for the dumb stuff they did pre-Madge.
 
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CONFIRMED TEAM:

WESTERN SUBURBS MAGPIES
1. Israel Ogden
2. Sione Hopoate
3. Josh Feledy
4. Semisi Kioa
5. Jay Kirk
6. Zane Camroux
7. Brandon Wakeham
20. Aitasi James
9. James Valevatu
10. Tukimihia Simpkins
11. Brandon Tumeth
12. Jack Boyling
13. Sione Fainu

14. James Roumanos
15. John Tuivaiti
16. Tom Freebairn (c)
17. Kit Laulilii

18. Aden Perry
Coach: Wayne Lambkin
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Not sure if anyone cares but our boys got absolutely smashed by the Jets. Predictably so...
 
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The Knock On Effect NSW Cup - Round 26 vs. Roosters

Sunday, August 27 - 2:00 p.m. AEST
Wentworth Park, Sydney

WESTERN SUBURBS MAGPIES
1. Israel Ogden
2. Sione Hopoate
3. Tommy Talau
4. Semisi Kioa
5. Jay Kirk
6. James Valevatu
7. Brandon Wakeham
8. Aitasi James
9. Tom Freebairn (c)
10. Tukimihia Simpkins
11. Brandon Mansfield
12. Jack Boyling
13. Sione Fainu

14. James Roumanos
15. John Tuivaiti
16. Aden Perry
17. Kit Laulilii

18. Rob Miller
Coach: Wayne Lambkin

INS: Tommy Talau, Brandon Mansfield, Aden Perry

OUTS: Josh Feledy (Jersey Flegg), Brandon Tumeth (Jersey Flegg), Zane Camroux
 
KingRobbie said:
The Knock On Effect NSW Cup - Round 26 vs. Roosters

Sunday, August 27 - 2:00 p.m. AEST
Wentworth Park, Sydney

WESTERN SUBURBS MAGPIES
1. Israel Ogden
2. Sione Hopoate
3. Tommy Talau
4. Semisi Kioa
5. Jay Kirk
6. James Valevatu
7. Brandon Wakeham
8. Aitasi James
9. Tom Freebairn (c)
10. Tukimihia Simpkins
11. Brandon Mansfield
12. Jack Boyling
13. Sione Fainu

14. James Roumanos
15. John Tuivaiti
16. Aden Perry
17. Kit Laulilii

18. Rob Miller
Coach: Wayne Lambkin

INS: Tommy Talau, Brandon Mansfield, Aden Perry

OUTS: Josh Feledy (Jersey Flegg), Brandon Tumeth (Jersey Flegg), Zane Camroux
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Last round of KOE Cup for the year. If we are genuine about improving our rosters across the board, this should be the final time we see many of these names appear on a team list.
 
Rob Miller into the halves - played halfback for Roosters Jersey Flegg team who topped the table last year although finished the season on the bench by the looks of it. Guess we are desperate for halves so no issue with someone new coming in
 
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