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Is it just me or is Mick Potter starting to look pretty average as a Coach?

Are we doing what Parramatta did with Kearney saying…. "he needs time, he needs time, he needs time, he needs time, he needs time... and then after a bit of time actually passes we realise he's just crap and has to go?"

I'm not a negative boo boy. I just haven't seen any evidence of all the things he's cracked up to be. He talks a good fight, but havent seen anything special in terms of team spirit, motivation, tactics, mongrel, fitness or team culture.
 
The culture we have is the problem.

Personnel changes are the only thing that will rectify it
 
@TIGERS said:
Is it just me or is Mick Potter starting to look pretty average as a Coach?

Are we doing what Parramatta did with Kearney saying…. "he needs time, he needs time, he needs time, he needs time, he needs time... and then after a bit of time actually passes we realise he's just crap and has to go?"

I'm not a negative boo boy. I just haven't seen any evidence of all the things he's cracked up to be. He talks a good fight, but havent seen anything special in terms of team spirit, motivation, tactics, mongrel, fitness or team culture.
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Na,

He hasn't had the luxury of being able to do hat he has wanted to do this year, due to
Injuries.

No coach regardless of how goo they are could compete with the depleted squad we have had at times.

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Just look at the mess he's walked into….look at the big picture overall and you'll see mitigating circumstances of why we are where we are right now

The Sheens debacle.
The injury situation
The poor recruitment of seasons past
The $2 shop strength training conditioning staff
The financial problems the above four create
Humpty under pressure and standing down
BLC redevopment drama
Wests Cambo pulling out of JV
The boys club culture thats permeated over several years

Potter's not GOD
Its going to take time.....I'm just not sure Potsy will be given the time required

At least Junior development seems to be thriving, one area Sheens excelled in, the pathways system
 
I will judge Potter next year.. Its clear he has inherited a club and players with attitude issues - I'm sure he has realised this and will weed them out next year…I expect we will look; play and act like a totally different club in 2014...else Potter will not be renewed...simple as that...
 
@innsaneink said:
Just look at the mess he's walked into….look at the big picture overall and you'll see mitigating circumstances of why we are where we are right now

The Sheens debacle.
The injury situation
The poor recruitment of seasons past
The $2 shop strength training conditioning staff
The financial problems the above four create
Humpty under pressure and standing down
BLC redevopment drama
Wests Cambo pulling out of JV
The boys club culture thats permeated over several years

Potter's not GOD
Its going to take time.....I'm just not sure Potsy will be given the time required

At least Junior development seems to be thriving, one area Sheens excelled in, the pathways system
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spot on Ink!
 
@innsaneink said:
Just look at the mess he's walked into….look at the big picture overall and you'll see mitigating circumstances of why we are where we are right now

The Sheens debacle.
The injury situation
The poor recruitment of seasons past
The $2 shop strength training conditioning staff
The financial problems the above four create
Humpty under pressure and standing down
BLC redevopment drama
Wests Cambo pulling out of JV
The boys club culture thats permeated over several years

Potter's not GOD
Its going to take time.....I'm just not sure Potsy will be given the time required

At least Junior development seems to be thriving, one area Sheens excelled in, the pathways system
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spot on Ink!
 
@alexaki said:
I will judge Potter next year.. Its clear he has inherited a club and players with attitude issues - I'm sure he has realised this and will weed them out next year…I expect we will look; play and act like a totally different club in 2014...else Potter will not be renewed...simple as that...
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Not sure if the cleanout will be possible over just one year.
We may have to let contracts run their course…we have no money.
That and the sheer size of the problem...it dwarfs the usual recruitment retention scenario each club has from season to season.
Each year though it should get easier.......... if we get it right from the start
Time will tell
 
Kearney effectively killed Parra from the ground up.

Potter on the other hand has nurtured and invested in our next gen. Only time and hard work will get us out of this.
 
@LaT said:
Kearney effectively killed Parra from the ground up.

Potter on the other hand has nurtured and invested in our next gen. Only time and hard work will get us out of this.
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Didn't help he walked into Anderson's mess, much like Potter with Sheens.
 
Too early to judge for reasons mentioned already. I think he even knows that too. From the post match press conferences and his general demeanour there seems to be no panic or concerns of his job security. In fact, I truly believe he is looking at the bigger picture of the club and team and striving for long term results instead of quick fixes.

It's a busted club. Lets face it. And you can't expect 1 man to fix years of snowballing problems in 1 season.

I think Potter will be good for West Tigers. In the long term.

I truly hope i don't eat my words. But pretty confident i wont.
 
Anderson wasn't that bad, the board dumped him prematurely IMO.

The parra board definitely suffer from a case of "the grass is always greener".
 
What about the recruitment? guys like Carl Webb, Chirs Walker, Chris Hicks. Guys 5 yrs past their use by date. They weren't signed by Kearney, but he inherited them.
 
woods and farah have gone up a gear after playing under potter. they are playing with a lot more toughness than they played last year. even fulton, who used to be just a tackling macine nowadays tackles as hard as anyone in the team.

we all saw moltzen this year play better and putting his body on the line more than he ever has.

2 rounds ago our whole 1-5 was different than what it was last year or the year before that, our forwards didnt have heighno, ellis, gibbs or galloway- some of the pillars of our forward pack since '10.

the only real senior in our forward pack is blair compared to what sheens had.

apart from benji, i have seen players improve under potter. im yet to see what he can do with lawrence and ayshford as they have been poor this year but im willing to wait.

leaving all that injury/depth excuses alone, imo he has done quite well with whatever he was given.

the only real complaint i've seen here on the forum re team selection is not the presence of groat but as watto said in another thread: groat and spence are both 50/50

not to mention our forwards are running straight instead of sideways. something he said when he started here was that he wanted to see us earn the right to play at the other end and despite the mindblanks benji had against brons, imo he has instilled that culture in the team.
 
Consider the difference in sides like the Storm when they are missing 3 players. Do we think poorly of Craig Bellamy if his team underperforms around Origin time?
 
What about them? Mistakes were made, sure. DA was a good coach, but the Parra board thought they had the next Bellamy and blew their wad.
 
@LaT said:
What about them? Mistakes were made, sure. DA was a good coach, but the Parra board thought they had the next Bellamy and blew their wad.
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Yeah, mistakes were made that really put Kearney on the back foot from the get go, but that seems to be a non factor, it was all his fault.
 
It's a work in progress as far as Potter goes, for a lot of reasons listed by previous posts.

The one real positive is that he is giving young players a go (sure, an injury toll has probably forced his hand in a number of instances,) but I feel in the long run it will probably help him make informed decisions on which players to retain and which ones to give the heave-ho.

Could well see a few players who were part of Sheens long term plan marched on.
 
There was an article a few weeks back posted on this forum, that I think showed his biggest positive, that being his calm nature and demeanour in the face of turbulent times.

No doubt he didn't expect things to be this difficult on and off the field, but he hasn't lost his lid or cired boo hoo about his and the Tigers prediciment (atleast not in public). Unlike Royce who in the box against the bunnies looked to have given up all hope in the team .

I think he knows he has a big task and he is just chipping away week by week. There's definatley things I haven't agreed with and I haven't really seen any change in team gameplans, but considering the injury toll I don't think he has been able to stamp himself on the Tigers yet. Gotta give him time and hopefully at the back end of the season we get close to a full squad for him to tinker with. Because lets face it, the pre season has gone out the window with half those players in rehab.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@LaT said:
What about them? Mistakes were made, sure. DA was a good coach, but the Parra board thought they had the next Bellamy and blew their wad.

Yeah, mistakes were made that really put Kearney on the back foot from the get go, but that seems to be a non factor, it was all his fault.
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It would be nice to live in a black and white world with nothing in between, but reality beckons.

Kearney inherited a work in progress and left it a wreck. Source: life long Parra fans.
 
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