Round 1 Team

@turkeytiger03 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308815) said:
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308805) said:
Daine Laurie reminds me of a former superstar named Ben Barba . They look eerily similar in playing style.

He kind of reminds me of the Melbourne fullback we let go. There’s not much to him .... but he’s all quality!!

Yea fair enough , I don’t see that comparison. He seems more skilful personally than Paps. Paps is like a bolt of electricity , he looks like he’s been shot out a gun half the time. Laurie looks , for lack of a better word , graceful to me . Which is how I used to view Ben Barba . Before I realised how that’s the exact opposite of who Ben is as a human .
 
I think Mbye has to be in fb come round 1. The bloke has been training all off-season there and is apparently killing it. Unfair for the bloke to give up his spot given he hasn't been able to trial.

Laurie is the fill in 6 for round 1.

Then once doueigh is back, we can decide who is the number 1.
 
@jc99 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308801) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308770) said:
@jc99 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308747) said:
@willow said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308718) said:
@tigerballs said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308706) said:
@willow said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308639) said:
After today's final hitout...

1. Laurie
2. Nofoaluma
3. JTJ
4. Joey L
5. AJ
6. Mbye
7. Brooks
8. Tamou
9. Liddle
10. Mighty Joe O
11. Garner
12. LL Cool J
13. Twal

14. Simpkin
15. Seyfarth
16. Stefano
17. Mikaele

18. Simpkins
19. Tuilagi

Throw Musgrove and Blore into the mix and we're looking formidable.

I think I'd swap Seyfarth for Tuki while Blore is out.

Just watching the game again at the moment - Tuki certainly shows promising signs, there's a LOT of upside to this kid. Has a great offload too.

I'm surprised we stole him off cowboys to be honest they rated him up there. Guess he saw he has a bigger chance of first grade here plus the kiwi connection with madge helps

Heard the opposite but anyway ...they were concerned with how slowly he was dealing with the switch from union to league .....3 different dyed in the wool fans ....one with small links back to the club

Well I can't see it. He looks like a league player to me

I can tell you from someone in their org that they rated him highly but they are stacked in the back row and didn't think he would get an opportunity for a fair amount of time. They did the trade because they lack outside backs.
 
Having a crack after today

Laurie
Nofa
Jet
BJ
AJ
Madden (AD back rd 2)
Brooks
Tamou
Liddle
Joffa
Luciano
Garner
Twal

J Simpkin
Packer
Stefano
Simpkins
 
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307820) said:
@innsaneink said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307813) said:
@cktiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307812) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307704) said:
Aj might be quicker but Talau breaks tackles easy and great finisher! He averaged 2nd most metres behind Alioia last year. Talau over Aj for me.

If Gebbie ever gets here I’d put him on the wing.
Heaps faster and more elusive than both of them.

Can he catch and tackle?
Too many forget this part of the game

I think people are also worried we won't score points..Brooks sucks blah blah Benji gone..

Well for the only team to concede 20+ point per game 10+ weeks in a row (NRL record)..i would say defence will determine our fate more than anything in 2021..if that is not dramatically improved ..forget it..

Well umm we scored points..Brooks didn't suck and Benji who..

Still 2 of Manly's TRIES were soft..need better against better opposition..that is everyone else bar Dragons..
 
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308882) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307820) said:
@innsaneink said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307813) said:
@cktiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307812) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307704) said:
Aj might be quicker but Talau breaks tackles easy and great finisher! He averaged 2nd most metres behind Alioia last year. Talau over Aj for me.

If Gebbie ever gets here I’d put him on the wing.
Heaps faster and more elusive than both of them.

Can he catch and tackle?
Too many forget this part of the game

I think people are also worried we won't score points..Brooks sucks blah blah Benji gone..

Well for the only team to concede 20+ point per game 10+ weeks in a row (NRL record)..i would say defence will determine our fate more than anything in 2021..if that is not dramatically improved ..forget it..

Well umm we scored points..Brooks didn't suck and Benji who..

Still 2 of Manly's TRIES were soft..need better against better opposition..that is everyone else bar Dragons..

1 was a mistake , the other a magic ball , and the third an individual run. Really 2 moments of brilliance and a garbage try . Still the hole wasn’t filled so Joe o had to sprint across to fill the void . And got stepped inside . Joe was in the tackle , so I don’t know what side of the defence was doing .
 
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308927) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308882) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307820) said:
@innsaneink said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307813) said:
@cktiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307812) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307704) said:
Aj might be quicker but Talau breaks tackles easy and great finisher! He averaged 2nd most metres behind Alioia last year. Talau over Aj for me.

If Gebbie ever gets here I’d put him on the wing.
Heaps faster and more elusive than both of them.

Can he catch and tackle?
Too many forget this part of the game

I think people are also worried we won't score points..Brooks sucks blah blah Benji gone..

Well for the only team to concede 20+ point per game 10+ weeks in a row (NRL record)..i would say defence will determine our fate more than anything in 2021..if that is not dramatically improved ..forget it..

Well umm we scored points..Brooks didn't suck and Benji who..

Still 2 of Manly's TRIES were soft..need better against better opposition..that is everyone else bar Dragons..

1 was a mistake , the other a magic ball , and the third an individual run. Really 2 moments of brilliance and a garbage try . Still the hole wasn’t filled so Joe o had to sprint across to fill the void . And got stepped inside . Joe was in the tackle , so I don’t know what side of the defence was doing .

The "magic ball" was a misread by Roberts who had a good game except for that
 
@jadtiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308976) said:
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308927) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308882) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307820) said:
@innsaneink said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307813) said:
@cktiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307812) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307704) said:
Aj might be quicker but Talau breaks tackles easy and great finisher! He averaged 2nd most metres behind Alioia last year. Talau over Aj for me.

If Gebbie ever gets here I’d put him on the wing.
Heaps faster and more elusive than both of them.

Can he catch and tackle?
Too many forget this part of the game

I think people are also worried we won't score points..Brooks sucks blah blah Benji gone..

Well for the only team to concede 20+ point per game 10+ weeks in a row (NRL record)..i would say defence will determine our fate more than anything in 2021..if that is not dramatically improved ..forget it..

Well umm we scored points..Brooks didn't suck and Benji who..

Still 2 of Manly's TRIES were soft..need better against better opposition..that is everyone else bar Dragons..

1 was a mistake , the other a magic ball , and the third an individual run. Really 2 moments of brilliance and a garbage try . Still the hole wasn’t filled so Joe o had to sprint across to fill the void . And got stepped inside . Joe was in the tackle , so I don’t know what side of the defence was doing .

The "magic ball" was a misread by Roberts who had a good game except for that

How’s it a misread if the backrower goes through, and you’re looking at your opposite centre ? Other than he didn’t jam in. Every magic ball ever passed is a misread somewhere.
 
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308989) said:
@jadtiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308976) said:
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308927) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308882) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307820) said:
@innsaneink said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307813) said:
@cktiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307812) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307704) said:
Aj might be quicker but Talau breaks tackles easy and great finisher! He averaged 2nd most metres behind Alioia last year. Talau over Aj for me.

If Gebbie ever gets here I’d put him on the wing.
Heaps faster and more elusive than both of them.

Can he catch and tackle?
Too many forget this part of the game

I think people are also worried we won't score points..Brooks sucks blah blah Benji gone..

Well for the only team to concede 20+ point per game 10+ weeks in a row (NRL record)..i would say defence will determine our fate more than anything in 2021..if that is not dramatically improved ..forget it..

Well umm we scored points..Brooks didn't suck and Benji who..

Still 2 of Manly's TRIES were soft..need better against better opposition..that is everyone else bar Dragons..

1 was a mistake , the other a magic ball , and the third an individual run. Really 2 moments of brilliance and a garbage try . Still the hole wasn’t filled so Joe o had to sprint across to fill the void . And got stepped inside . Joe was in the tackle , so I don’t know what side of the defence was doing .

The "magic ball" was a misread by Roberts who had a good game except for that

How’s it a misread if the backrower goes through, and you’re looking at your opposite centre ? Other than he didn’t jam in. Every magic ball ever passed is a misread somewhere.


Its a misread because he dosent adjust to a backrow forward coming into his area of defence which he would be coached to do.Apart from that as i said he had a good game
 
@hammertime said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308854) said:
I think Mbye has to be in fb come round 1. The bloke has been training all off-season there and is apparently killing it. Unfair for the bloke to give up his spot given he hasn't been able to trial.

Laurie is the fill in 6 for round 1.

Then once doueigh is back, we can decide who is the number 1.

Agree, we haven't seen what Mbye can do yet?
 
I understand what people are saying re mbye. However what we have missed for a very long time is the fullback that is on the spot when people make a break. Laurie was that guy and as a result we sniffed out a few tries we wouldn't have got over the last few years.
Mbye was always a good defensive centre but Laurie is something else
 
@tigerwest said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308993) said:
@hammertime said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308854) said:
I think Mbye has to be in fb come round 1. The bloke has been training all off-season there and is apparently killing it. Unfair for the bloke to give up his spot given he hasn't been able to trial.

Laurie is the fill in 6 for round 1.

Then once doueigh is back, we can decide who is the number 1.

Agree, we haven't seen what Mbye can do yet?

I see the point here, but I mean, he has played fullback before at WT, and trained there in previous off seasons.

I thought he deserved to be there by default unless Laurie is a standout in the trials. Yesterday changed my mind.

If Laurie is going to be the eventual fullback anyway, makes sense to put him there from round 1 if he's ready so he grows into the role.

I'm honestly not sure where Mbye fits in now. Possibly at 6, but Madden did a pretty good job there yesterday.
 
@jadtiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308976) said:
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308927) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308882) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307820) said:
@innsaneink said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307813) said:
@cktiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307812) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307704) said:
Aj might be quicker but Talau breaks tackles easy and great finisher! He averaged 2nd most metres behind Alioia last year. Talau over Aj for me.

If Gebbie ever gets here I’d put him on the wing.
Heaps faster and more elusive than both of them.

Can he catch and tackle?
Too many forget this part of the game

I think people are also worried we won't score points..Brooks sucks blah blah Benji gone..

Well for the only team to concede 20+ point per game 10+ weeks in a row (NRL record)..i would say defence will determine our fate more than anything in 2021..if that is not dramatically improved ..forget it..

Well umm we scored points..Brooks didn't suck and Benji who..

Still 2 of Manly's TRIES were soft..need better against better opposition..that is everyone else bar Dragons..

1 was a mistake , the other a magic ball , and the third an individual run. Really 2 moments of brilliance and a garbage try . Still the hole wasn’t filled so Joe o had to sprint across to fill the void . And got stepped inside . Joe was in the tackle , so I don’t know what side of the defence was doing .

The "magic ball" was a misread by Roberts who had a good game except for that


I don't see it as Roberts fault he was left marking 2 players - Manly had 3 on 2 on that side - had Roberts come in Schuster would have just gone out the back to the FB who would have been unmarked. The problem was Tuialagi was too slow to slide across and take Schuster which would have allowed Douehi to slide and pick up the eventual try scorer.
 
@weststigerman said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1309000) said:
@tigerwest said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308993) said:
@hammertime said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308854) said:
I think Mbye has to be in fb come round 1. The bloke has been training all off-season there and is apparently killing it. Unfair for the bloke to give up his spot given he hasn't been able to trial.

Laurie is the fill in 6 for round 1.

Then once doueigh is back, we can decide who is the number 1.

Agree, we haven't seen what Mbye can do yet?

I see the point here, but I mean, he has played fullback before at WT, and trained there in previous off seasons.

I thought he deserved to be there by default unless Laurie is a standout in the trials. Yesterday changed my mind.

If Laurie is going to be the eventual fullback anyway, makes sense to put him there from round 1 if he's ready so he grows into the role.

I'm honestly not sure where Mbye fits in now. Possibly at 6, but Madden did a pretty good job there yesterday.

At this stage of Madden's career the rest of the team, including Mbye, are way ahead. Madden is a work in progress, but progressing nicely.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308863) said:
Having a crack after today

Laurie
Nofa
Jet
BJ
AJ
Madden (AD back rd 2)
Brooks
Tamou
Liddle
Joffa
Luciano
Garner
Twal

J Simpkin
Packer
Stefano
Simpkins

1. Laurie
2. Nofa
3. Jet
4. BJ
5. AJ
6. Mbye (Madden hoprefully)
7. Brooks
8. Tamou
9. Liddle
10. Joffa
11. Lucy
12. Tuilagi
13. Twal

14. Stefano
15. Simpkins
16. Mikaele or Garner
17. Simpkin
 
@jadtiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308990) said:
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308989) said:
@jadtiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308976) said:
@strongee said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308927) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1308882) said:
@geo said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307820) said:
@innsaneink said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307813) said:
@cktiger said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307812) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Round 1 Team](/post/1307704) said:
Aj might be quicker but Talau breaks tackles easy and great finisher! He averaged 2nd most metres behind Alioia last year. Talau over Aj for me.

If Gebbie ever gets here I’d put him on the wing.
Heaps faster and more elusive than both of them.

Can he catch and tackle?
Too many forget this part of the game

I think people are also worried we won't score points..Brooks sucks blah blah Benji gone..

Well for the only team to concede 20+ point per game 10+ weeks in a row (NRL record)..i would say defence will determine our fate more than anything in 2021..if that is not dramatically improved ..forget it..

Well umm we scored points..Brooks didn't suck and Benji who..

Still 2 of Manly's TRIES were soft..need better against better opposition..that is everyone else bar Dragons..

1 was a mistake , the other a magic ball , and the third an individual run. Really 2 moments of brilliance and a garbage try . Still the hole wasn’t filled so Joe o had to sprint across to fill the void . And got stepped inside . Joe was in the tackle , so I don’t know what side of the defence was doing .

The "magic ball" was a misread by Roberts who had a good game except for that

How’s it a misread if the backrower goes through, and you’re looking at your opposite centre ? Other than he didn’t jam in. Every magic ball ever passed is a misread somewhere.


Its a misread because he dosent adjust to a backrow forward coming into his area of defence which he would be coached to do.Apart from that as i said he had a good game

How do you know what their defensive structures are ? He went through just slightly left of the centre corridor , to me it was a lack of communication from all involved , especially AD (I believe it was him). The way I read it , was roberts stayed out , AD was sliding with his inside man , and stopped dead at schuster , where he should have kept going to Turbo junior .

I’m not saying Roberts shouldn’t have jammed , but that’s I read it in the moment , not 1 persons error , but a lack of communication when sliding .
 

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