TEAM LIST Round 5 vs Parra

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upthetigers said:
So everyone is in agreeance our middle and edge forwards will dominate. So Parra's plan will be to play on the edges without earning the right through the middle.

So playing around with AI...

Using the sideline as a defensive tool is a high-level tactic where edge defenders, particularly wingers and centers, force attackers toward the touchline, effectively using the boundary as an extra defender. This approach relies on "out-in" movement, where defenders stay outside their man to compress their space, or by "sliding" to force the play into the corner.

Key methods of using the sideline in defense include:
  • Forcing the Sideline Tackle: Wingers and centers aim to get their hips in close and utilize their outside shoulder to move the attacker over the sideline, as often executed by the Panthers and Storm.
  • The "Slide" Technique: Instead of aggressively jamming in, defenders might turn their hips and slide with the attacking team. By holding their position on the edge and moving backward at an angle (sometimes up to 45 degrees), they force the attacking team toward the corner, buying time for defenders from the inside to scramble and support.
  • Trusting the Inside Edge: This strategy relies heavily on the winger, who is the last defender, trusting their inside center to manage the inside runner, allowing the winger to dedicate themselves to the sideline.
  • High-Edge Pressure: Some teams, such as the Penrith Panthers, keep their edges very high to cut down the time and space available, forcing play wide and making it easier to drag the attacker into touch.
  • Rushing/Jamming: In some scenarios, rather than sliding, the edge defender may suddenly rush in to cut off the pass to the winger, banking on the fact that if they force the ball carrier to turn back, they will have to contend with incoming teammates, often resulting in a tackle near the sideline.
@Jolls what are your thoughts on the edge defense for this game? is this where the game will be won and lost?
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These really are tools that can be used in the defensive plan and they, for me, form clubs in the golf bag. We need to be adept at using all of the clubs and switching clubs as required. If you rely completely on one methodology teams can pick you apart - especially a team with someone like Moses and Prezet driving it. I think that we will try to keep it simple and cut down their time and space - executing a defensive plan similar to what Souths did against us. So we need to be wary of the kick in behind to "keep us honest'. I don't see too much fo a change from what we executed against the Wahs as they had a similar threat wth Boyd and Metcalf.

You hear a lot of talk about the defensive line being connected - and this is the key. If you want to force the opposition out and use the sideline you need to keep the player on your outside shoulder and force them out of room. If you want to cut time and space you want them on the inside shoulder and jamming them when the opportunity arises and this is where the connection is critical - and where there were errors on the left edge last week. When a player turns in we all need to turn as well and that may mean leaving your man for the outside (if somone is running a line outside of your inside man but inside your shoulder). The overlap has to be dealt with by the scramble defence using the fullback and players coming across applying inside pressure.

Anyway, my best guess is that we will try to cut time and space by using an up an in approach (high edge pressure) and if they try to go around will force them towards the sideline to use it as an extra defender. If Moses uses his kicking game to keep us honest then it is simply a matter of trusting the inside man to make the right decision and staying connected to defend as a unit.
 
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We need to get up in scum bags face all game, like we did to warriors. Their half was lost and had nothing due to our line speed. Fir once can we repeat it against the massive tool??
 
Tiger Tarl said:
Agreed. The fact that we're winning games with teenagers filling in and players out of position is great but would still much prefer our starting backline of:

1. Bula
2. Turuva
3. To'a
4. May
5. Makasini

We got a glimpse of a May/Makasini left edge in the trials, but are yet to see the true potential just yet. Salivating thinking about it. Or maybe I'm just hungry...
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Rumours doing the media rounds is that Starford Toa is fit & will be somewhere in the 19 named on game day.
 
I was led to believe that he was named in cup, but looking at the team lists that were put out he is not there and there are a number vacant positions with no one named.

Very confusing. 😕
 
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Makasini still being picked in the centers makes me nervous
The tremendous team performance in NZ can somewhat mask his failings in this game .
If you add up his lost balls his missed tackles and the penalties he incurred
It was a big number .
He got better as game went on but atm I think he is at best a winger
With a lot more games he will be a possible star
 
I hope we test out their fullback replacing Longi. Lots of high kicks and kicks into the ingoal.

Lets dominate the middle, mount some pressure, and score points off the back of it.

Parra will likely be throwing the ball around, attacking from their half, and they could make costly mistakes.

Grind out a win like Penrith and Melbourne does.
 
Lestronge said:
That is never true . How do I know ? Our winning percentage when he played for us. . If you’re the reason for 2-3 tries a game and you set up 1-2 , or even if it’s 2-3 , you’ve just expelled a whole bunch of wasted energy .
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WAS IT YOU

Who said once we fix the edge's / backrow it will solve alot of the Tigers problems I think it was and you said it more than a few times
 
upthetigers said:
I hope we test out their fullback replacing Longi. Lots of high kicks and kicks into the ingoal.

Lets dominate the middle, mount some pressure, and score points off the back of it.

Parra will likely be throwing the ball around, attacking from their half, and they could make costly mistakes.

Grind out a win like Penrith and Melbourne does.
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I’d hardly call what Penrith did to the Eels as a grind. More like a slice and dice.
But I do think it will be a grind this week, long as we don’t try and play to not lose rather than play to win.
(PS just mo re Toa, imo bring him back gradually. He’s too fragile otherwise)
 
upthetigers said:
I hope we test out their fullback replacing Longi. Lots of high kicks and kicks into the ingoal.

Lets dominate the middle, mount some pressure, and score points off the back of it.

Parra will likely be throwing the ball around, attacking from their half, and they could make costly mistakes.

Grind out a win like Penrith and Melbourne does.
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Other than Moses, Iongi posed the only real attacking threat in the Eels team. He's not there so I don't really see where there points come from if Moses is kept quiet.
 
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