Scott Woodward picks us for the spoon!

@tig_prmz said:
think we should sticky this thread. heaps of motivation for players + pump us up as fans

The players pay zero attention to these things as should the fans. The fans should take a leaf out of the players book and not give a damn but they never do, they always get emotional ''how dare they not rate us :rant ''

At the end of the day a season isn't based on what the Media think, its what the players do. Focus on that
 
@Guest said:
@Tbone said:
I didn't see his 2012 predictions, but saying he was right just because he didn't back the tigers for a premiership is misleading. Did he pick the tigers to come 2nd, 4th, or 16th? 15 out of 16 punters would have got it right on the flip of a coin. How did his other 2012 predictions stack up? I stand to be corrected if he picked say 6 of the top 8 and 3 of the bottom 5.

From memory almost no one on this forum agreed we should have been installed favorites last year.

**He said the tigers would struggle because of the uncertainty of the halves. He was exactly right about that**. I still think he predicted us to go well but thought it was crazy for the tigers to be favorites.

Believe me I hope he is wrong but his accuracy of the key issue that would hurt us last year was right. You have to give him that.

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Well he must have used a crystal ball - the only reason there was uncertainty in the halves is because Tedesco was injured in the first game.
 
@AmericanHistoryX said:
@tigsta said:
His Preview does worry me.

He makes a lot of good points… One in particular is leaving BMM out of the starting side to accomodate Anasta. Im a big supporter of Anasta but he wont hit the ball up hard like a backrower should and that may hurt us. I hope not though.

I have no idea though why people are tipping us for the spoon. It just baffles me...

So you rather BMM ahead of Anasta. Is this what worries you?

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Bratih is rubbish there is not one person who is not a tigers fan that isnt laughing at us right now signing him. Where stuck with him sadly it was a Sheens signing, Id rather have Siro at Lock, we don't need Bratih from things I have heard he's a selfish kind of player and well look at last years stats he never runs the ball!
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
I predict that Golden will tip us for the spoon in the live game thread if we lose a game early in the yr

I am staying away from the live game threads this year seriously, I'm over all that
 
@Guest said:
@Tbone said:
I didn't see his 2012 predictions, but saying he was right just because he didn't back the tigers for a premiership is misleading. Did he pick the tigers to come 2nd, 4th, or 16th? 15 out of 16 punters would have got it right on the flip of a coin. How did his other 2012 predictions stack up? I stand to be corrected if he picked say 6 of the top 8 and 3 of the bottom 5.

From memory almost no one on this forum agreed we should have been installed favorites last year.

He said the tigers would struggle because of the uncertainty of the halves. He was exactly right about that. I still think he predicted us to go well but thought it was crazy for the tigers to be favorites.

Believe me I hope he is wrong but his accuracy of the key issue that would hurt us last year was right. You have to give him that.

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The havles were not the reason we were bad last year. the storm did pretty well with a fullback playing at 5/8 the bulldogs did pretty well with their halfback out and there 2nd halfback out halfway through the year.

it was our mental attitude soft defence and lack of size in the forwards
 
@cktiger said:
@Guest said:
@Tbone said:
I didn't see his 2012 predictions, but saying he was right just because he didn't back the tigers for a premiership is misleading. Did he pick the tigers to come 2nd, 4th, or 16th? 15 out of 16 punters would have got it right on the flip of a coin. How did his other 2012 predictions stack up? I stand to be corrected if he picked say 6 of the top 8 and 3 of the bottom 5.

From memory almost no one on this forum agreed we should have been installed favorites last year.

**He said the tigers would struggle because of the uncertainty of the halves. He was exactly right about that**. I still think he predicted us to go well but thought it was crazy for the tigers to be favorites.

Believe me I hope he is wrong but his accuracy of the key issue that would hurt us last year was right. You have to give him that.

_Posted using RoarFEED 2013_

Well he must have used a crystal ball - the only reason there was uncertainty in the halves is because Tedesco was injured in the first game.

Thats where you are wrong ck, Moltzen remained halfback for the next 3 games I think with Humble at fullback. Because moltzen failed dismally we were sheensified by Moving marshall to 7\. Ayshford to 6\. that failed then we moved Lawrence to 6\. Fail again.. Lets try FULTON my all time favourite which obviously failed.

Im not saying this was the be all and end all for us but it certainly was a major contributing factor and he seen it prior to the season starting. I think he deserves credit for that alone.
 
@Golden said:
@AmericanHistoryX said:
@tigsta said:
His Preview does worry me.

He makes a lot of good points… One in particular is leaving BMM out of the starting side to accomodate Anasta. Im a big supporter of Anasta but he wont hit the ball up hard like a backrower should and that may hurt us. I hope not though.

I have no idea though why people are tipping us for the spoon. It just baffles me...

So you rather BMM ahead of Anasta. Is this what worries you?

_Posted using RoarFEED 2013_

Bratih is rubbish there is not one person who is not a tigers fan that isnt laughing at us right now signing him. Where stuck with him sadly it was a Sheens signing, Id rather have Siro at Lock, we don't need Bratih from things I have heard he's a selfish kind of player and well look at last years stats he never runs the ball!

I think he will be a good thing for us, but we wont know until we get under way. Tomorrow nights trial might give us an idea. I think we will absolutely trounce Parra at campbelltown

However, Im going to be more concerned about how many tries our first grade line up lets in… That will be interesting.
 
@tigsta said:
@cktiger said:
@Guest said:
@Tbone said:
I didn't see his 2012 predictions, but saying he was right just because he didn't back the tigers for a premiership is misleading. Did he pick the tigers to come 2nd, 4th, or 16th? 15 out of 16 punters would have got it right on the flip of a coin. How did his other 2012 predictions stack up? I stand to be corrected if he picked say 6 of the top 8 and 3 of the bottom 5.

From memory almost no one on this forum agreed we should have been installed favorites last year.

**He said the tigers would struggle because of the uncertainty of the halves. He was exactly right about that**. I still think he predicted us to go well but thought it was crazy for the tigers to be favorites.

Believe me I hope he is wrong but his accuracy of the key issue that would hurt us last year was right. You have to give him that.

_Posted using RoarFEED 2013_

Well he must have used a crystal ball - the only reason there was uncertainty in the halves is because Tedesco was injured in the first game.

Thats where you are wrong ck, Moltzen remained halfback for the next 3 games I think with Humble at fullback. **Because moltzen failed dismally** we were sheensified by Moving marshall to 7\. Ayshford to 6\. that failed then we moved Lawrence to 6\. Fail again.. Lets try FULTON my all time favourite which obviously failed.

Im not saying this was the be all and end all for us but it certainly was a major contributing factor and he seen it prior to the season starting. I think he deserves credit for that alone.

You must have a poor memory - the only reason Moltzen was moved to fullback was because Humble couldn't handle it back there.
Considering he had trained at half the entire off season you would have thought Sheens might have put Meaney there , or even Ryan , rather than disrupt the halves.
However , as we all know, after round 3 saw a revolving door in the halves that I hope doesn't happen this year.
 
Thats where you are wrong ck, Moltzen remained halfback for the next 3 games I think with Humble at fullback. **Because moltzen failed dismally** we were sheensified by Moving marshall to 7\. Ayshford to 6\. that failed then we moved Lawrence to 6\. Fail again.. Lets try FULTON my all time favourite which obviously failed.

Im not saying this was the be all and end all for us but it certainly was a major contributing factor and he seen it prior to the season starting. I think he deserves credit for that alone.
You must have a poor memory - the only reason Moltzen was moved to fullback was because Humble couldn't handle it back there.
Considering he had trained at half the entire off season you would have thought Sheens might have put Meaney there , or even Ryan , rather than disrupt the halves.
However , as we all know, after round 3 saw a revolving door in the halves that I hope doesn't happen this year.

That's not the way I saw it. Tim Moltzen had a shocker for a bout 3 to 4 games in the halves where he did nothing, Humble was going well at fullback IMO, not great, but no where near as bad as Moltzen was going in the 7.

dont think Moltzen was moved to fullback because of Humbles poor performance.
 
Miller should have been put at halfback and given a go, Sheens was puzzleing with the way he brings in rookies

this is a guy who was going to put McDonnell on the wing for the grand final if Richards was out, this was also a guy who gave Lui a debut game in a must win game against Parra in 09, he also put in BMM for his debut in the semi against roosters and BMM made our first eror which turned the game.

I could never understand Sheens logic he seems he would throw a rookie into a big game and go all season not giving them a run.
 
@Golden said:
Miller should have been put at halfback and given a go, Sheens was puzzleing with the way he brings in rookies

this is a guy who was going to put McDonnell on the wing for the grand final if Richards was out, this was also a guy who gave Lui a debut game in a must win game against Parra in 09, he also put in BMM for his debut in the semi against roosters and BMM made our first eror which turned the game.

I could never understand Sheens logic he seems he would throw a rookie into a big game and go all season not giving them a run.

Correct Miller should have been given a decent go.

Im very suspicious about the selections of the team last year. I dont think Sheens was the only one to blame. I think a few players (benji) had their input into team selections, and that might explain why Moltzen was never dropped despite his woeful performances.
 
@cktiger said:
@Guest said:
**He said the tigers would struggle because of the uncertainty of the halves. He was exactly right about that**. I still think he predicted us to go well but thought it was crazy for the tigers to be favorites.

Believe me I hope he is wrong but his accuracy of the key issue that would hurt us last year was right. You have to give him that.

_Posted using RoarFEED 2013_

Well he must have used a crystal ball - the only reason there was uncertainty in the halves is because Tedesco was injured in the first game.

That's not true: there was uncertainty in the halves because no-one knew whether Moltzen would be able to play there. Moltzen didn't move to full back until a few weeks into the season (ie well after Tedesco's injury), and it only happened at all because he was useless at half back. In fact the only impact Tedesco's injury had on the half situation was giving Moltzen somewhere else to play when he got booted out of the 7 shirt for being rubbish. I still occasionally have a bitter chuckle when I recall the two or three occasions on which Moltzen took the fifth tackle kick, and inevitably dinked one 20 metres downfield straight into the arms of the onrushing full back.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
If Moltzen was such a success at halfback thats where he would have stayed regardless of Tedesco

One thing that was painfully apparent when Moltzen did play halfback were several things:

1\. No organising game
2\. No running game
3\. No passing game

Which is = predictable and non-threatening, which in turn = more pressure on Robbie and Benji. Anyway, looking forward to seeing the improvements Moltzen has made in his game at fullback, and whether he's good enough to keep Tedesco out this season.
 
Funny thing is , Willow , is that he had all those things his whole career playing half.
He only got three games last year behind a pack that was going backwards.
They bought Miller in for the 4th game and he failed behind a badly beaten pack as well.
It doesn't matter who plays half this year - if our pack doesn't stand up they're on a hiding to nothing.
I am really hoping Potter puts some starch into the forwards so the backs can do their stuff.
 
Scott who?

So many things wrong with this guy's arguments.

- We have the worst 25 in the comp? Has he not seen the Penrith squad?! We have the NZ Captain, the 2012 NSW Origin player of the series, arguably two of the brightest youngest backs in the game with Tedesco and Koro, arguably the best young forward in the game with Woods, and throw in some experience and class like Anasta and Lawrence and I truly believe we have one of the best balanced teams in the NRL.
- Doesn't recognise Potter's achievements as player or coach
- Moltzen will be our game breaker? Had form towards the end of 2012? PUH-LEASE
- Praises Miller's game then calls him average?
- Thinks Marshall would be a good fullback? He's obviously never paid attention to his defensive problems
- Doesn't know why we recruited Anasta but says we have inexperience in the halves. THAT'S WHY. We need his leadership and direction, he's a great recruit. Says the Roosters failed to turn him into a lock, but they made the GF with him in the backrow.
- Yes Ben Murdoch is on the way up, but IMO he is best used as an impact player off the bench. If he bothered to actually watch the way he plays he'd know this.
- Pettybourne came from the Roosters apparently
- No excitement in our squad apart from Benji and Farah, yet has a wet dream over Koro early in the piece.

He could not sound like any more of a bumbling fool if he tried
 

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