Sheens and his favorable team selections

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ron_burgandy

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the dropping of cayless has got me thinking, why does sheens give some players alot and i mean alot of opportunities to prove themselves yet others seem to get no chance when given time in grade?

example of not being given reasonable opportunities are

gower
ohara
harris
reick
crockett
graham

now these guys arent superstars but were pretty solid first graders (exception of gower) who performed well there but never really got consistant game time to mould into the tigers style of play

mean while underperforming players have maintained spots for years or a whole season under sheens like:

collis
fitzy
payne
galea
lolesi
halatau
morris
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so is there a "boys club" culture at the tigers as to why some under-performers get time after time to come good
 
It definitely appears so Collis especially used to peeve me…he'd have 6 weeks off then walk straight back into the team, play a month of very mediocre footy, get injured again and when he recovered he'd walk straight back into the team all over again.

I just never got that...at least Morris tried his guts out every game for us - most on that list did not.
 
Ron you're a day late for April Fools… Most of the people you list as deserving more game time had major defects in their games and deserved to be out of the team.
 
:laughing: it's a gee up surely….

Everyone knows it's Politics....
 
no gee up, like payten has had a couple of lean years really offering nothing gibbs had under performed for several before the back end of last year.

it just seems some get more of a chance to prove themselves, nick graham was a very solid FG fotballer for the sharks same as harris for manly, we dump off cashmere who did nothing wrong in games he played.

it just seems like the majority of buy in players get less chance then other under performers who have been in the system for a while
 
Ron the only thing I will say is that very few players not picked in first grade have gone on to make solid first grade careers elsewhere.

BTW I always liked Cashmere and didnt quite understand why we let him go.
 
We also had jeff lima play for balmain for 5 years. He would have signed a contract for a pie and coke after every game. Now he is a 2 time grand final winner and starter for nz who we tried to buy back for $200k plus
 
fergiefurr,

I think you better be careful with Lima. My understanding is that there was more to this than was made publicly available. Apparently the club looked after Jeff very well.
 
Some good points but you went overboard with the players mentioned…
There are very few players who we have let go who we have missed except in the prop department.
Cashmere, Tandy and Lima have all done quiet well since not being wanted.

Matt Rieck and Fitzy is a good example of what you are saying. Fitzy had a period of terrible games before finally being dropped in 2005\. Rieck came in and had a couple of more than solid games, namely against Manly and Newcastle. Had a bad game against the storm at Leichhardt and then was never seen again.

A lot of the time it's not rational to drop multiple players at once. But it did seem like a lot of people get more than a go. But then again that was due to our lack of depth.

I know it's my namesake but Lolesi was the best buy in 2006 for that calendar year, bang for buck. Played all bar one game and played out of position to cover for the hundreds of injuries we incurred.
 
Rieck didnt make it because of attitude as I understand. Other people are in a better position to talk but my understanding is that the club assisted Lima by releasing him. I dont know any of the details.
 
Hell of a lot goes on behind the scenes than we the punters dont see. From a bloke on the hill, I have seen us struggle up front for years, than we let a guy like Tandy go and you scratch your head< but we are not privy to what actually is going on seven days a week. Its all about the team and not individuals
 
you forgot robert lui who he continues to persist with when realistaclly he's not gonna win us a comp
 
I don't know about a 'Boys Club'. Can't the coach have plans. If said players aren't in those plans, they aren't likely to get the chances someone in the plan is.
 
@MIGHTY_TIGER said:
you forgot robert lui who he continues to persist with when realistaclly he's not gonna win us a comp
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Im all for moltzen to be half but a bit early to make a call that Lui wont win us a premiership and that sheens is persisting with him. Lui has not really played many games to be persisted with and he has shown in the lower grades that he has talent. Whether he can reproduce it in 1st grade consistently is a bit too early to call.
 
@MIGHTY_TIGER said:
you forgot robert lui who he continues to persist with when realistaclly he's not gonna win us a comp
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Rather silly comment to be making considering Lui is only 20 years old and has half a dozen FG games to his name thus far.
 
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