Sheens' legal move confirms Wests Tigers a club in crisis

Numbnuts. The description of the board yet. Its pretty telling that it come from someone who's not a supporter.
 
Sheens by all accounts is in talks with the dragons ..so probable wants this matter finalised .
He still is being paid by the Tigers so is still employed !I see where the club is coming from so a settlement has to be reached . After all no top 8 I will walk !
 
Normally I can't stand kent but that's the best footy related article I've ever read, perfectly echoes my thoughts.

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@Snake said:
Sheens by all accounts is in talks with the dragons ..so probable wants this matter finalised .
He still is being paid by the Tigers so is still employed !I see where the club is coming from so a settlement has to be reached . After all no top 8 I will walk !
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You see where the club is coming from? Lets just stop paying him without trying to settle it?? Thats ridiculous. And his comment about walking was said about the 2011 season. Happy to be proven wrong though.
 
Thats one way of looking at it. Still paying him, well bring the stubborn fossil back for next year and make him see out his contract. Then sack him again. I think it would be brilliant !!
 
the team can't fold.

who else am I going to pick each week to win **25-18**. :laughing: :wink:

at the moment the skies are dark and clouds of doom are hanging overhead.
they will pass
they always do.

I would dearly like to see wests-tigers once again be a competitive team, before I lam dead and buried..
 
Hey Ink, you said to cancel our licence and that you're over it.
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Why all of a sudden get upset when someone replies to your post?
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Methinks that you're not over it at all.
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You are just like me and everyone else on here…pissed at our performances. Pissed at the circumstances, pissed at the lack of respect that some of our players have for the jumper, for the club, for their team mates and especially pissed at their attitude towards the fans.

Yeah Im frustrated - but for someone to suggest this current mess should meet anyones requiremnts is a joke.

Upset at the suggestion I find another club.
I just love the ''true supporters''

I try to tell myself Im not going to be affected by this mess....keep a distance, but watching again last night, reading the stories today, being here now - yeh Im not over it....the team chose me, more than 40 years back....the caring will never stop, just the levels wane I guess
 
@weststigers4life said:
Paul Kent on Saturday: Incompetent Wests Tigers board is at heart of club's problems

ROYCE Simmons was at work Thursday when his wife called and, forever the loving type, she went at him gently.

"I just saw you're big fat head on television," she said. "You look terrible. You've just been sacked."

Simmons was a little embarrassed.

"If I'd known I was going to be sacked I would have worn a better shirt," he said.

**It was impossible for him to know his sacking was coming, though, when the Wests Tigers announced Thursday that he and two other of Michael Potter's support staff were sacked as the board ordered an urgent coaching restructure.\
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It was impossible to know mostly because Simmons told the club eight weeks ago he had taken another job and would be leaving.**

So had Steve Georgallis, another coach let go.

The whole announcement was a poorly thought out PR stunt from a board out of its depth and intent on covering its own inadequacies.

They are trying to convince Wests Tigers fans they are on top of it when they couldn't be more under it if they put themselves in front of the 440 to Leichhardt.

Fans are being misled by a board under intense financial pressure which has done such a poor job of running the football club as a business (which is its charter) it has turned its attention to running the football team, which it knows even less about, in a bid to show the public competency.

Numbnuts.

The disrespect to use Georgallis and Simmons as a PR stunt to win public approval highlights a board that needs to be treated very suspiciously by Wests fans.

And now they have Potter in their sights. Unnamed sources, leaked half-truths, they are all contributing to undermine Potter's authority when anybody that has been around the game long enough knows there is nothing surer to undermine a coach and a club than what this board is getting up to.

Fans need to remove them.

Potter's crime is he had the temerity to do what should have been done at the club years ago, and put Benji Marshall in his place.

Earlier this year Tim Sheens said on NRL360 that "players sack coaches".

The game's most experienced coach when sacked last year, Sheens was gone after losing the support of Marshall and other senior players once the likes of Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington left for Cronulla.

The day after his NRL360 comments, Marshall sought out Tigers media manager Wayne Cousins asking if he was putting out a press release denying Sheens' claim. It was one of the few times Marshall was told "no".

Similarly, Potter is under pressure after a fallout with Marshall earlier this year when his form forced Potter to drop him. Rumblings soon began within the club.

Some board members, knowing Marshall's marketing value to the club, began wondering if Potter was up to NRL standard.

They argued he was a rookie coach, never mind that he has been coaching since 1996, or a hell of a lot longer than they were board members.

It set in place a chain of opinion that has failed to stop even though Marshall has now declared he is leaving the club and, more pressing for Potter, now it has become clear he is barely of NRL standard.

There are 15 other NRL coaches who all know Marshall is no longer up to the NRL.

Troubling for Potter, though, he is under pressure to keep selecting Marshall because of the risk of public backlash and a board without the courage to back him.

This Tigers board blows whichever way the wind blows.

What the board hasn't counted on is the turn of public opinion against Marshall.

A Daily Telegraph poll through the week published results yesterday showing 71 per cent of fans believe Potter shouldn't pick Marshall anymore.

The fans know what the board, if it knew anything about football, should have figured out long ago.

Marshall is no longer up to it.

Instead, Potter is under intense pressure to continue selecting Marshall for two big reasons: his 200th game comes in round 25 and a sentimental core that believes Marshall deserves the "fairytale ending" at the club.

How do you run a club like that?

There are some real games left where Potter could blood the likes of future halves Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses. But what are they, except the club's future?

Potter is now on borrowed time. It's clear his NRL career rides on next season.

Just one man's opinion, but I'd tell the board where they could put themselves under the 440, for all I care, and I'd start working on making next year work.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/paul-kent-on-saturday-incompetent-wests-tigers-board-is-at-heart-of-clubs-problems/story-fni3fh9n-1226694405131
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Just on the bold bit…the club didnt name which support staff contracts hadnt been extended.
They never said sacked, and they werent named

With this in mind, the club has decided not to extend the contract of three existing members of our support staff for 2014\. For avoidance of doubt, these decisions are not performance based and these individuals involved have been informed.

Still....only Farah has said Simmons told him during origin he was off to Penrith, did Simmons Georgy & Leeds inform the club?
 
I really can't see how this can carry on it just seems to be one thing after another and the common denominator is the board, the NRL really need to step in and take control I can't see any other way,we are slipping into an abyss.
Maybe that will give the NRL an easy out we just fall on our swords,it will only benefit one organisation and that's soccer I'll refuse to support any other NRL team or the NRL in general and ill go to soccer.
But at the end of the day the club only has itself to blame,we all suffer because of it.
 
@gallagher said:
You see where the club is coming from? **Lets just stop paying him without trying to settle it??** Thats ridiculous. And his comment about walking was said about the 2011 season. Happy to be proven wrong though.
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How do you know they haven't tried to settle it gallagher?
 
@Saber said:
Anybody interested in organising a march to remove the board?
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I would come for sure. I know my friends who support would come. We should do it outside the next home game. March to the ground together with banners etc.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
And to think people scoffed when i said we were as much of a rabble as Parra. I wasn't informed enough to makes such statements and apparently Parra fans said their club was more of a rabble then us therefore it was true

And now look at us
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Waahhh don't criticise me!

Anywho:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/lack-of-sponsorship-prompted-parramatta-to-sack-ceo-ken-edwards/story-fnca0von-1226680406459
 
@barra said:
@gallagher said:
You see where the club is coming from? **Lets just stop paying him without trying to settle it??** Thats ridiculous. And his comment about walking was said about the 2011 season. Happy to be proven wrong though.

How do you know they haven't tried to settle it gallagher?
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Fair point barra. But it would seem they've put it in the too hard basket. To just stop paying him isnt a solution.
 
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