Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

jirskyr said:
Cmon, how petty and shallow a comment is that, questioning whether or not he's got the work ethic to improve performances just because he's taking a break.

The bloke signed on as Head Coach of the wooden spooners, could have sat back doing his cushy media job, and then you question that he is somehow uncaring or uncommitted to turning things around.
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That’s a weak response. You didn’t answer my question about Bellamy or any of the other top coaches for that matter.

It doesn’t matter what I think of him, if the media are aware of his Fiji trip and he’s not getting results it doesn’t make him or the club look good.

I’ve made my point.
 
The game Nsemba just played on the weekend he touched the ball 3 times in the first half. There were 2 soft cock runs and a try where he bumped off a halfback.
You need a pack good enough to do his work and carry him for the flashes of good play he produces. We don't have that.
I hope Richo isn't looking at outside backs over there. I would say the best winger in Super League at the moment is Abbas Miski.
 
weststigerman said:
That’s a weak response. You didn’t answer my question about Bellamy or any of the other top coaches for that matter.

It doesn’t matter what I think of him, if the media are aware of his Fiji trip and he’s not getting results it doesn’t make him or the club look good.

I’ve made my point.
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Bellamy is holidaying in QLD. Wayne is held up at his farm on bye weeks not at work
 
A week off is a week off. If anyone thinks a coach's head is not in the game during the season despite the scenery I think they are fooling themselves. This is probably as much about looking out for the coaches family and loved ones who are very much impacted by the demands placed on being married/ partnered to a FG coach.
 
hank37w said:
Thanks for that.

Do you think he has given Rugby Union away in favour of League permanently or do you think he is just testing the water to see if he can make the transition successfully?

When I saw the mention of a player by the name of Edmed I thought it must have been another younger son or relative.
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Tane will be in the Wallabies squad for this year - he's still playing rugby (?) for NSW .
 
weststigers said:
Am I a prick for being happy that no Tigers were selected?
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I thought that almost immediately when I heard the teams announced...but then realised just as quickly it will probably make no difference to us whatsoever.

Origin is another facet of the game that shows me just how much
I have lost interest and passion for NRL and Origin....I used to get so pumped back in the day when Eastlakes was calling & Gus was doing his preambles.
Tommy albeit briefly, Price Kenny, King Wally, Artie, Close slapping Grothe on the tryline and MG & the King listening intently to David Manson .Still watch pretty much every game but maybe ive just matured
 
weststigerman said:
That’s a weak response. You didn’t answer my question about Bellamy or any of the other top coaches for that matter.

It doesn’t matter what I think of him, if the media are aware of his Fiji trip and he’s not getting results it doesn’t make him or the club look good.

I’ve made my point.
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If Benji tries to be Bellamy or Bennett he will surely fail.
Benji has to be Benji.
Ask yourself this, do you think Bellamy or Bennett copied anyone else? They succeed because they are uniquely themselves.
Winners trust their own instincts, value their own opinions, they don't copy.
And who gives a rats how it looks to anyone? That's how losers think.
 
Todd Packer said:
The game Nsemba just played on the weekend he touched the ball 3 times in the first half. There were 2 soft cock runs and a try where he bumped off a halfback.
You need a pack good enough to do his work and carry him for the flashes of good play he produces. We don't have that.
I hope Richo isn't looking at outside backs over there. I would say the best winger in Super League at the moment is Abbas Miski.
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Thanks for the intel TP. What about that Wigan prop Tyler Dupree? It seems not much in positions of our need in SL atm - backrow, middle, outside backs.
 
Furious1 said:
Probably.There was an article last year where he talked up wanting to be the captain of this club. In the same article he basically spoke about wanting higher honours and that to get them you have to be at a top 8 club.
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I don't get the hype around Stef, he is as soft as dogshit. He plays one or two worthwhile games a year, people keep saying he is young blah,blah, Haas, Fisher Harris etc were kicking arse consistently when they were young. He is not worth 800,000 plus for a soft prop. Hopefully Richo and Benji are looking at cheaper more effective options, if he doesn't want what we offer, let me piss off.
 
Robbie's Love Child said:
I don't get the hype around Stef, he is as soft as dogshit. He plays one or two worthwhile games a year, people keep saying he is young blah,blah, Haas, Fisher Harris etc were kicking arse consistently when they were young. He is not worth 800,000 plus for a soft prop. Hopefully Richo and Benji are looking at cheaper more effective options, if he doesn't want what we offer, let me piss off.
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I’ve never seen so many changing emotions around a player. One minute he’s a vital cog in the engine, the next he’s a pillow, the next he’s back to being imperative to our future. I can’t keep up.
 
Benji going is a bad look

He could’ve stayed and actually reviewed tape or come in when no one is around to try and work out a new plan around our attack

When you’re losing …. players look at the “boss” to get inspiration and follow their lead.

If he doesn’t understand this then it’s bc he grew up with perhaps a different, privileged mind set than other players bc he was a unique one off talent who - yes hard to work really hard - but he never had to work hard to get his talent - he had it like no one else.

People say “generally” talented players make bad coaches and vice versa bc they didn’t have to work as hard as the toilers for their success. Yes Billy slater is killing it but he grew up with the storm system. Benji grew up with sheens saying “score 32 if they score 30… and play what you see don’t worry about building pressure”.

Benji is not Wayne or Craig - he hasn’t learnt the respect as a coach. His reputation as a great has given him a slight grace period with younger players who looked up to him but after 8,9,12 losses in a row we everyone starts to lose faith.

. If he doesnt get results quick and it looks like not only Steff but juniors like galvin and others don’t sign extensions bc they ( them, their managers or family) want to be in successful clubs… I think he’ll be shown the door or at least another senior assistant will be brought in

API not making origin despite people saying it’s a good thing is absolutely horrendous for us

Shows other players at our club they get penalized in our club bc of our results

He was a certainty before 8 losses on the trot

Benjis “eyes up football” is so bad. He or Robbie never created a consistent winning team for us when they were players - always good or bad… not like Billy slater at the storm or fitzy at roosters.

Steff not signing an extension already means he will 99% go… unless we offer him so much more than someone else. Who can blame him tho?

Most likely 3 wooden spoons in a row!!! That’s so so bad.
 
It's all opportunity cost with Stefano ! We sign him now in a panic and throw money at him like we normally do or do we say this is your value to us and if that's not your opinion you can take an offer elsewhere. The cost is we lose him and he improves ( in a better side he may or he may not be that good at all) or we sign him and in 2 years we are complaining about the club signing players to big contracts and not producing the goods.
 
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