@2041 they were down in the dumps for years mate ! Great analogy and if it has any ring of truth then we’ve got a lot longer to go before we have enough centrelink advancements to even dabble on some less-than ideal long term , overpaid signings... I reckon we’re stuck until either a couple come good or the ultimate ‘leave you high n dry dealer’ decides to take back a few of his unwanted discarded (unlikely)