Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Shooter Mcgavin]

For another club, Mbye at 400k is not a bad option. If we had him at that price he wouldn't get half the criticism he gets here.

Just thinking about it, if he was gone, I have no idea who'd play fullback if Doueihi was unavailable, so we'd need to find someone who can cover.

From the top of my head new recruit Asu Kepaoa can play fullback if needed. Also Nofa from memory played it a little way back before his first grade days. Most likely stop gaps however but if Dylan Smith leaves maybe we can replace with a like for like

 

[avocadoontoast]

For another club, Mbye at 400k is not a bad option. If we had him at that price he wouldn't get half the criticism he gets here.

Just thinking about it, if he was gone, I have no idea who'd play fullback if Doueihi was unavailable, so we'd need to find someone who can cover.

From the top of my head new recruit Asu Kepaoa can play fullback if needed. Also Nofa from memory played it a little way back before his first grade days. Most likely stop gaps however but if Dylan Smith leaves maybe we can replace with a like for like

If we're getting rid of Mbye and paying a big chunk of his salary you'd hope they have someone lined up.

 

[Shooter Mcgavin]

Mybe and Reynolds are both worth about $350-$400k to us...Brooks a little less.
Shldnt pay any more of future contract than this number
Having said that,Mybe is a round for TWO more years and we shld be a little more generous.Really need to get rid of at least one of em
They also need to be replaced..hope Madge has a plan?He didnt for Corey

Think there were whispers that we had hoped roosters would release Asu early to us as we had already signed him for 2021 onwards. However, the club should’ve made sure it was a sure thing before going down that path. Injury to Roberto didn’t help either, but absolutely could’ve been handled better by the club

 

[JC99]

For another club, Mbye at 400k is not a bad option. If we had him at that price he wouldn't get half the criticism he gets here.

Just thinking about it, if he was gone, I have no idea who'd play fullback if Doueihi was unavailable, so we'd need to find someone who can cover.

From the top of my head new recruit Asu Kepaoa can play fullback if needed. Also Nofa from memory played it a little way back before his first grade days. Most likely stop gaps however but if Dylan Smith leaves maybe we can replace with a like for like

If we're getting rid of Mbye and paying a big chunk of his salary you'd hope they have someone lined up.

I think they just want to get rid of the horrible contract Mbye is on. Even if you don’t have someone lined up if you can move him on you do it ASAP

 

[Lukic]

If it's true about the Titans being willing to pay around half his contract (400k), then we've got to look at contract's value as 400k to us given that's what we'd save letting him go.

Is he worth 400k as a centre? No.
Is he worth 400k as a hooker? No.
Is he worth 400k as a 1 or 6? Potentially, but it seems like we won't play him there.
Is he worth 400k as a 14? Maybe.

400k is 1/25th of the salary cap. You'd probably want to be paying your 10-12th or so best player that amount. Realistically he'd be a great 14 and very good depth given he can cover a number of positions competently, but I'm not sure he'd be happy with that. So moving him on, even if only 400k of his contract is covered is probably the best move.

 

[Newtown]

Sydney Morning Herald
EXCLUSIVE
NRL 2020
Mbye bye? Star could be headed for Tigers exit as pressure mounts on Maguire
Wests Tigers are happy for their captain to look elsewhere, and are willing to pay up to half his salary to facilitate a move.
by Michael Chammas

 

[diedpretty]

Would say that 70% of the tries scored in the Hastings video would not have been scored in the NRL.

That doesn't leave a fantastic video to watch.

They would against us.

 

[hsvjones]

Paying half Mbyes contract is smart business. He has talent and it’s worth the risk for the Gold Coast and could be a good utility for 400k.
For us freeing up 400km and a roster spot is smart as this team is not making finals in its current state.

Bigger win would be offloading Reynolds at full freight to Super League.

Word is Broncos May struggle to sack TPJ we should do a deal and get him Broncos chip in 100k and pick him up for 550k per season.

Sending unwanted players to super league is good because normally you don’t have to pay part of their contracts


The days of big money in the UK are over. Salary cap is only AUD$3.3M. You can overspend on two marquees.

Normally you don’t pay your guys to go there is what I’m saying

We would have to pay our guys to go there. They are entitled to their contract money and no one in the UK is going to pay it

One club over there would pay at least a good majority of his contract. He’s be man of steel in England ?

Lets hope so..

I may be missing something but if Mbye was on around 400-500k i don't think a lot of us would be to concerned if he was here or not as he can cover a lot of positions.. It's just because he is on massive money.. But on the other hand he must be ok if the coach keeps picking him plus he makes the QLD SOO team each year :man-shrugging:

For me I think he is a good 1st grade player however a terrible capt & Kicker so fingers crossed this happens .

 

[JC99]

Paying half Mbyes contract is smart business. He has talent and it’s worth the risk for the Gold Coast and could be a good utility for 400k.
For us freeing up 400km and a roster spot is smart as this team is not making finals in its current state.

Bigger win would be offloading Reynolds at full freight to Super League.

Word is Broncos May struggle to sack TPJ we should do a deal and get him Broncos chip in 100k and pick him up for 550k per season.

Sending unwanted players to super league is good because normally you don’t have to pay part of their contracts


The days of big money in the UK are over. Salary cap is only AUD$3.3M. You can overspend on two marquees.

Normally you don’t pay your guys to go there is what I’m saying

We would have to pay our guys to go there. They are entitled to their contract money and no one in the UK is going to pay it

One club over there would pay at least a good majority of his contract. He’s be man of steel in England ?

Lets hope so..

I may be missing something but if Mbye was on around 400-500k i don't think a lot of us would be to concerned if he was here or not as he can cover a lot of positions.. It's just because he is on massive money.. But on the other hand he must be ok if the coach keeps picking him plus he makes the QLD SOO team each year :man-shrugging:

For me I think he is a good 1st grade player however a terrible capt & Kicker so fingers crossed this happens .

I agree. There would be 99% less whinging about him if he was on reasonable money. It’s just cause Ivan made him our highest paid player that people get annoyed at him.

 

[TonyTiger]

Paying half Mbyes contract is smart business. He has talent and it’s worth the risk for the Gold Coast and could be a good utility for 400k.
For us freeing up 400km and a roster spot is smart as this team is not making finals in its current state.

Bigger win would be offloading Reynolds at full freight to Super League.

Word is Broncos May struggle to sack TPJ we should do a deal and get him Broncos chip in 100k and pick him up for 550k per season.

Sending unwanted players to super league is good because normally you don’t have to pay part of their contracts


The days of big money in the UK are over. Salary cap is only AUD$3.3M. You can overspend on two marquees.

Sadly we will be topping up Grubs contract if he goes to SL, but it will be for one year and maybe only around 30%. Moses M on the other hand will be 400 for two years. That’s a lot of cash to be flushing down the loo...thanks Ivan

I don’t believe we need to take a hit if Reynolds transfers to a SL club ... he is a game changer and would turn around the fortunes of any SL club over there, we are selling ourselves short if we contribute to the deal - unlike Mbye who should have been Performance Managed out of Concord without a hit to the purse strings.

 

[Goldust]

I was standing behind Chammas last week while picking up Pizza.
I was so close to asking for some goss on the Tigers haha.

 

[supercoach]

Paying half Mbyes contract is smart business. He has talent and it’s worth the risk for the Gold Coast and could be a good utility for 400k.
For us freeing up 400km and a roster spot is smart as this team is not making finals in its current state.

Bigger win would be offloading Reynolds at full freight to Super League.

Word is Broncos May struggle to sack TPJ we should do a deal and get him Broncos chip in 100k and pick him up for 550k per season.

Sending unwanted players to super league is good because normally you don’t have to pay part of their contracts


The days of big money in the UK are over. Salary cap is only AUD$3.3M. You can overspend on two marquees.

Sadly we will be topping up Grubs contract if he goes to SL, but it will be for one year and maybe only around 30%. Moses M on the other hand will be 400 for two years. That’s a lot of cash to be flushing down the loo...thanks Ivan

I don’t believe we need to take a hit if Reynolds transfers to a SL club ... he is a game changer and would turn around the fortunes of any SL club over there, we are selling ourselves short if we contribute to the deal - unlike Mbye who should have been Performance Managed out of Concord without a hit to the purse strings.

I bet we do...The SL is on its knee, very little money around and the players do not get the tax concessions they once got. Grub certainly will not head Os unless the money is right, okay he might settle for less for the security of a three year contract, but for next year we will be tipping in for sure. Fingers crossed a deal with someone like Widdop can be done where it becomes a swap

 

[the_third]

Mbye leaving is smart if we get a top hooker in his place. Also holding up talau’s place in the centres and Asu on the wing next year.

Lot of upside to moving him along.

Reynolds is similar if we sign a half

 

[jrtiger]

unfortunately with the state of these contracts that Cleary put together to get them off our books we have to top up in order to free up cash. M'Bye for $400k at a rival club is good value and unfortunately given his performances this year we don't have too much bargaining power. Grant in the open market would command plenty of cash, but if Smith does in fact enact this clause and we get the deal done quick I think we'd be able to snap him up for say $550-600k a season. Brandon Smith would probably be a bit more but we should be in good stead to offer him as such.

if the swap with Reynolds and Widdop goes ahead it'll be a similar thing, Widdop would be on less than Reynolds and we'll probably top up what Reynolds is making over there, but it'll be worth it.

as for Packer, I'd see if he'd be willing to extend his deal by a further 2 years but subsidise, similar to what we did with Lawrence when he had a heavily backended contract and we spaced it out. he's a good player and a leader with experience and quite frankly that's what we need right now.

 

[851]

I'd have Benji back easily. I don't know why there's so much dislike for him. You blame the Newcastle game on him? Give teams time and space and the halves of any defensive team will be exposed defensively, especially paired with Leiluia out wide. Benji is our most creative player and our best kicker and he's not on a big contract, what's the problem? As soon as you get someone better you can drop him, but we don't have anyone better and we SHOULD sign him again if he'd be willing. You guys need to think more pragmatically: he's a good value squad contract who also happens to be our best half, and is one of the best in the league on his day. Don't worry about the fact it's Benji, you're signing him on backup money.

You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree with everything you said, he got dropped for his issues, he came back after supposedly fixing them and he is worse than ever, we played our best footy when he was watching from the stands.
Benji has never been a backup, look at todays team as a prime example, he should have been first dropped, he is always first picked, he is cooked, and he will be 36 next year and even worse,
Madden is signed and can do the job on bugger all money as well.
We need the roster spot, are you happy missing the 8 every year, because that is what he brings, and that is what we get

The idea that we need to get rid of Benji in order to play Madden is strange, we can have both (and do right now). But the solution to play Madden is fantasy. It's a weird assertion to think that a guy who has never played first grade is who we depend on next year. How much footy have you watched? the step up to first grade is always huge and you don't really know how a player will pan out. Maybe he'd be good, maybe not. Having Benji or not wouldn't impact that.

I don't think we played good footy when he wasn't there. Reynolds isn't better than him and I think it's crazy to suggest that.

Reynolds is the contract we need to get rid of. Both he and Mbye are on way too much. They're alright players, but they are being played like superstars.

Benji is one of our best player and he's on a small contract, he's not the problem.

You guys want a scapegoat for last week and benji didn't play well but I don't think that has anything to do with whether or not we offer another reasonable contract for a quality player.

Benji's proven in the past at Brisbane and this year that he can be a very positive squad member, he doesn't demand to start. I think, at the very least, he's a useful player to have in the squad; at his best he's our best player and a match winner.

Who is our alternative?

I've said the same before and I would add Lawrence into this bucket.

People forget that the squad extends beyond 1-17...you need some depth, not just promising juniors.

Benji is on $175K
Lawrence is on $100K

Even if they sat the entire season in the 18 and 19 jerseys, it would be NRL quality depth and huge experience covering positions that are hard to cover (Halves + Centre). These guys combined are on less than McQueens total contract ($400K)!

Further, we need to get through 1 more year before some big contracts expire. Having NRL quality depth on low contracts allows us to balance our squad in other areas.

We just need to get through 1 more year with these guys...no one is saying they should be starters.

Regardless of what Benji says, he thinks he is a starter and should play every week, he is past it and it’s a distraction, time to move him on

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Assuming Mbye at $800k is correct, if we pay half we have $400k available. Will we get a better player than Mbye for that $400k? Maybe, but you'd want to be sure and have something lined up ready to roll

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Mbye leaving is smart if we get a top hooker in his place. Also holding up talau’s place in the centres and Asu on the wing next year.

Lot of upside to moving him along.

Reynolds is similar if we sign a half

How different will WT'S look 2021 IF
MBYE GOES
JREY GOES
BENJI GOES
MCQUEEN GONE
ET GONE

 

[Speed2burn]

Warriors have signed Aitkens and Kane Evans in the last 2 days...

2 players who would easily make our side. So it’s not as if there isn’t any half decent players on the market

 

[Hangonaminute]

I feel like we’d have to pay a Farah to Souths like subsidy to get him off the books. As bad of a contract he has, Idk if that would be worth it.

It's worth it

There’s no way 500-600k to an opposition player for the next 2 years would be worth it

It's worth it, he has to go, sometimes you just have to cop a loss.

 

[Shooter Mcgavin]

Given it is the “signing suggestions and rumours” thread, what would be people’s thoughts on a swap between Kyle Flanagan and Luke Brooks be?

Obviously very far fetched and would be highly unlikely to happen but Roosters could surely see appeal having Brooks incubate the spot while this Walker fella matures. Not to mention the good combo Brooks already has with Ted (eg. Brooks classic grubber for Ted to score).

Alternatively, we need someone to lead us around the park, I haven’t watched much of Flanagan but from memory maybe he is a controller/play maker? rather then a runner like all our potential “halves pairings” (eg. Jrey, Walters, Marshall, Brooks, AD etc). Also we need a goal kicker.

I know he’s got the dad at St.George and we don’t want a Cleary(2.0) so there’s that and why would he want to come to us from a premiership favourite and have a fat chance at missing finals every year.

But as I led with, more so a “suggestion” and wanted to see how people valued the two comparatively, as I haven’t seen much of Flanagan but I hear he’s solid and has been dropped for the time being