Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[avocadoontoast]

Angus Crichton would be a fantastic signing for us. Quality player.

 

[TillLindemann]

I'll be interested to see who the Super League player might be.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

I know I am getting way ahead of myself here but if we added players like Tamou, JAC and Crichton in one off season it would setup for a great 2021. All that experience and coming from top 4 teams would really be great for our young players.

 

[teddy23]

I know I am getting way ahead of myself here but if we added players like Tamou, JAC and Crichton in one off season it would setup for a great 2021. All that experience and coming from top 4 teams would really be great for our young players.

Stefano is gonna be dangerous off the bench too, especially playing with the guidance of a leader like Tamou on the field which will give the kid some extra confidence I’m assuming he needs as parra might’ve done some damage there with the limited game time he had last year due to no reserve grade and restricted mins off the bench

Thinking about it now..... geez Parra are slimey

 

[twentyforty]

Fix the defence we we will make top 8 it’s that simple. We can score points, when we get on the front foot we can roll any team in the competition problem is we keep letting teams get huge leads on us. Defend well, learn to build pressure and we’re fine, sure the roster could be better but they’ve shown they can compete with top teams they just don’t do it enough

Unfortunately we've players in their mid to late twenties who can't make the correct decisions in defence or are plain lazy. It comes down to personal pride, pride in the jumper they wear and respect for your team mates that you can be counted on when needed. This is not the case at present. Maguire can only do so much. These players have to want to improve.


It looks that way to me too Paws. 10 years of riding the slippery slope to mediocrity, peppered with some poor decisions. Lee and Madge have a huge job. I have a feeling that Matterson wasn’t the only one moping, he was just doing it better than the others. It’s about time someone started listening to the players..or get them some professional counselling if the job is too big? Maybe the eggshell story was scarring from pre Madge days? They did a lot of damage by cutting the head (Farah) off the team.

The club has listened to the players far too often in the past. It’s has never helped before. I want them to just suck it up and push forward. I believe the wheels are slowly starting to move in change of mentality but if we back off now we will be back at the beginning again

My understanding of listening is obviously different from yours? It’s not a passive behaviour, it involves negotiating outcomes. your method of top down demands may work with some? But it is not as effective as everyone involved taking ownership of the goals.
You say “the club has listened to the players far too often”
I say, they may have heard what they were saying, but I’m not sure they were listening?

 

[JC99]

If we could somehow pull off JAC and Crichton to add to Stefano and Tamou it would be one of our best recruitment off seasons ever. Add AJ and Blore mid season and it’s excellent

 

[WeststigsRdaBest]

Angus Crichton would be a fantastic signing for us. Quality player.

I’m sorry but if we end up signing Angus I might cry....a second row of 11. Angus 12.Blore 13.Lucy would be unstoppable

 

[teddy23]

Angus Crichton would be a fantastic signing for us. Quality player.

I’m sorry but if we end up signing Angus I might cry....a second row of 11. Angus 12.Blore 13.Lucy would be unstoppable

Twal lurking around too at lock

 

[TheDaBoss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnA6iYQa_CI

2018 highlights

 

[JC99]

Couple of points over the last couple weeks:

McIntyre has re-signed (not sure on why it hasn't been announced as yet)
Seyfarth only has an actual contract on the table from us, one Out of Sydney team has had direct discussions with him but don't see him going anywhere, was mentioned that he's coming off a bit "self entitled" during negotiations.

Nofoaluma in the process of finalizing a 3 year ext, should be a nice Christmas present.
Aloiai & Blore just a formality now with their ext,

Garner going to Manly seems to be still a go but something is holding it up & not on our end.

Madge had a phone conversation with Angus Crichton last week to gage interest, he's seen as a top target for 2022 (Or 2021 depending how things play out at the Roosters)

We are also close to bringing over a young outside back from the UK for 2021, I didn't get the name but will provide once known.

If we let Garner go is there a replacement in mind? We have McIntyre and Blore who can fill the void but our depth in that area looks shaky, maybe a young second rower to come in?

 

[BZN]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

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[JC99]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Fix the defence we we will make top 8 it’s that simple. We can score points, when we get on the front foot we can roll any team in the competition problem is we keep letting teams get huge leads on us. Defend well, learn to build pressure and we’re fine, sure the roster could be better but they’ve shown they can compete with top teams they just don’t do it enough

Unfortunately we've players in their mid to late twenties who can't make the correct decisions in defence or are plain lazy. It comes down to personal pride, pride in the jumper they wear and respect for your team mates that you can be counted on when needed. This is not the case at present. Maguire can only do so much. These players have to want to improve.


It looks that way to me too Paws. 10 years of riding the slippery slope to mediocrity, peppered with some poor decisions. Lee and Madge have a huge job. I have a feeling that Matterson wasn’t the only one moping, he was just doing it better than the others. It’s about time someone started listening to the players..or get them some professional counselling if the job is too big? Maybe the eggshell story was scarring from pre Madge days? They did a lot of damage by cutting the head (Farah) off the team.

The club has listened to the players far too often in the past. It’s has never helped before. I want them to just suck it up and push forward. I believe the wheels are slowly starting to move in change of mentality but if we back off now we will be back at the beginning again


My understanding of listening is obviously different from yours? It’s not a passive behaviour, it involves negotiating outcomes. your method of top down demands may work with some? But it is not as effective as everyone involved taking ownership of the goals.
You say “the club has listened to the players far too often”
I say, they may have heard what they were saying, but I’m not sure they were listening?

I understand your view and believe the happy medium is somewhere in the middle. But I think the mindset has got to come more my direction than yours to get there

 

[Tigerbuck63]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

Agree it is what it is but at least we are making some progress in ensuring our players and the coaching team have up to date facilities and a base. Think it also lines up with our cap space in 2022 which is an added bonus.

 

[Moh]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Yup completely agree.

Mentioned this a while back - the fact other clubs have them and/or are also having them built is more reason to need them. I don't have an incredible amount of insight into our facilities, but from what I've seen they are terrible for a professional club.

As I player, myself, I would 100% factor in where I'm spending almost every day into my decision.

Penrith CoE is just beautiful.

 

[JC99]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Yup completely agree.

Mentioned this a while back - the fact other pclubs have them and/or are also having them built is more reason to need them. I don't have an incredible amount of insight into our facilities, but from what I've seen they are terrible for a professional club.

As I player, myself, I would 100% factor in where I'm spending almost every day into my decision.

Penrith CoE is just beautiful.

It’s gonna be good for us. Pascoe and the board have done well to get it done for us

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

 

[happy_tiger]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

But you won't retain all the talent and then you need someone who will identify the best talent to suit the WT's needs

Look at Brisbane ...so much talent , bit identifying the most important talent is the hardest thing

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

But you won't retain all the talent and then you need someone who will identify the best talent to suit the WT's needs

Look at Brisbane ...so much talent , bit identifying the most important talent is the hardest thing

I think we are spot on now with talent identification and retention, Also having Hodgson and Palmer in Pathways is a huge improvement for WTs.

 

[happy_tiger]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

But you won't retain all the talent and then you need someone who will identify the best talent to suit the WT's needs

Look at Brisbane ...so much talent , bit identifying the most important talent is the hardest thing

I think we are spot on now with talent identification and retention, Also having Hodgson and Palmer in Pathways is a huge improvement for WTs.

Have they got experience in identifying talent though .....horses for courses ....aces on their bases ...haven't heard of them in those type of roles previously