Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

You can mark this down and play it back to me if you like, because I have never been as certain of anything in my time supporting the club. If we give Josh Mansour a three year deal we will spend *at least* half that time wondering why we can never get anyone to medically retire or persuade them to go and play in England for half as much money.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263030) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263020) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263018) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263014) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262938) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262924) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262885) said:
@hodgo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262869) said:
I liked what AJ did this year, but he was very prone to mistakes i honestly think he is a year away.

That is normal from a young player. Let him make mistakes and learn in the NRL. What he demonstrated is the pace and finishing power that Nofoaluma, Mansour, and Leilua lack. Leilua was having meltdowns and everyone has him as a starter next year! I wouldn't feed him. Give me Kepaoa any day who will have a good crack.

Just checking, are you saying AJ is a better finisher than Nofa?

I wrote that Kepaoa finished tries that Nofoaluma and Mansour couldn't due to lack of pace.

Mansour yes, but I disagree on Nofa. I’d also add Nofa has finished tries that AJ couldn’t due to lack of catching ability.

Pigs fly as well. You should be a comedian.

Go rewatch the last South’s game and you’ll see who cost us the match with the dropsies.

Young player and you expect mistakes, it is part of learning. But the pace, power, passing and strong one on one defence is there.

I don’t think coaches like Bellamy are happy to accept 2-3 mistakes over and over like that in first grade. Look at what happened to Brodie Croft.

It looks like Madge feels the same with the interest in Mansour.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262943) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262789) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262777) said:
Mansour on the cheap for a year or two would be fine. He and Tamou would certainly be a great example for our younger blokes and will help to set standards. ***I doubt Mansour would be starting every week***, rather creating competition for spots and if that was so, good. It won't block players at all, just make them earn their position.

Why the hell would we entertain a player that isnt good enough to get selected?

hahaha I think I've got a fan. What is it about my posts that works you up? Let it out.

To answer your question: depth. Do you think the Storm signed Brenko Lee and said "he'll definitely be our starter in the centres in a finals game"? They also had Seve and Momo so you'd doubt it but I'm sure they thought, in a pinch, he could fill in admirably for them. That's what I meant about the signing of Mansour. Solid pro who can be relied upon to put in no matter his circumstance in the team.

Short sighted signing blocking pathways for players that want to play 1st grade. Limits options for signing more juniors. We speak about signing kids for the future and block pathways with old players. Should have kept Benji if this is who we are signing.

It’s a classic retirement signing.

We don’t need old wingers. That’s a kids position these days. Blood them on the wings resign them and move them, to where they play. That what Penrith did and we want to sign the old guy that couldn’t beat the kids for a spot? Wow. Next level bad management.

An absolutely terrible signing. We want pace in the back line and he doesn’t have it. We don’t need a “solid pro” who is a winger.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263044) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263030) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263020) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263018) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263014) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262938) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262924) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262885) said:
@hodgo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262869) said:
I liked what AJ did this year, but he was very prone to mistakes i honestly think he is a year away.

That is normal from a young player. Let him make mistakes and learn in the NRL. What he demonstrated is the pace and finishing power that Nofoaluma, Mansour, and Leilua lack. Leilua was having meltdowns and everyone has him as a starter next year! I wouldn't feed him. Give me Kepaoa any day who will have a good crack.

Just checking, are you saying AJ is a better finisher than Nofa?

I wrote that Kepaoa finished tries that Nofoaluma and Mansour couldn't due to lack of pace.

Mansour yes, but I disagree on Nofa. I’d also add Nofa has finished tries that AJ couldn’t due to lack of catching ability.

Pigs fly as well. You should be a comedian.

Go rewatch the last South’s game and you’ll see who cost us the match with the dropsies.

Young player and you expect mistakes, it is part of learning. But the pace, power, passing and strong one on one defence is there.

I don’t think coaches like Bellamy are happy to accept 2-3 mistakes over and over like that in first grade. Look at what happened to Brodie Croft.

It looks like Madge feels the same with the interest in Mansour.

As I wrote earlier, young players make mistakes. That is how they learn. Catching can be practiced to improve. Pace is different, you either have it or you don't. If you don't you can be useful but limited. This means you really have to do the basics correctly like catching high balls or decision making in defence. If you can't do those well, it is really club football.
 
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263052) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262943) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262789) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262777) said:
Mansour on the cheap for a year or two would be fine. He and Tamou would certainly be a great example for our younger blokes and will help to set standards. ***I doubt Mansour would be starting every week***, rather creating competition for spots and if that was so, good. It won't block players at all, just make them earn their position.

Why the hell would we entertain a player that isnt good enough to get selected?

hahaha I think I've got a fan. What is it about my posts that works you up? Let it out.

To answer your question: depth. Do you think the Storm signed Brenko Lee and said "he'll definitely be our starter in the centres in a finals game"? They also had Seve and Momo so you'd doubt it but I'm sure they thought, in a pinch, he could fill in admirably for them. That's what I meant about the signing of Mansour. Solid pro who can be relied upon to put in no matter his circumstance in the team.

Short sighted signing blocking pathways for players that want to play 1st grade. Limits options for signing more juniors. We speak about signing kids for the future and block pathways with old players. Should have kept Benji if this is who we are signing.

It’s a classic retirement signing.

We don’t need old wingers. That’s a kids position these days. Blood them on the wings resign them and move them, to where they play. That what Penrith did and we want to sign the old guy that couldn’t beat the kids for a spot? Wow. Next level bad management.

An absolutely terrible signing. We want pace in the back line and he doesn’t have it. We don’t need a “solid pro” who is a winger.

It *might* be an ok signing for a year. Three years for a 30-year-old winger is insanity - especially one coming off a string of injuries and a very sub-par season. Just a waste of a roster spot, regardless of salary.
 
I can see another Idris situation with developing with Jimmy the Joke,cheap is very rarely worthwhile.As for a 3 year contract for an over the hill winger in Mansour i am completely dumbfounded.a thousand times NO
 
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263059) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263052) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262943) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262789) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262777) said:
Mansour on the cheap for a year or two would be fine. He and Tamou would certainly be a great example for our younger blokes and will help to set standards. ***I doubt Mansour would be starting every week***, rather creating competition for spots and if that was so, good. It won't block players at all, just make them earn their position.

Why the hell would we entertain a player that isnt good enough to get selected?

hahaha I think I've got a fan. What is it about my posts that works you up? Let it out.

To answer your question: depth. Do you think the Storm signed Brenko Lee and said "he'll definitely be our starter in the centres in a finals game"? They also had Seve and Momo so you'd doubt it but I'm sure they thought, in a pinch, he could fill in admirably for them. That's what I meant about the signing of Mansour. Solid pro who can be relied upon to put in no matter his circumstance in the team.

Short sighted signing blocking pathways for players that want to play 1st grade. Limits options for signing more juniors. We speak about signing kids for the future and block pathways with old players. Should have kept Benji if this is who we are signing.

It’s a classic retirement signing.

We don’t need old wingers. That’s a kids position these days. Blood them on the wings resign them and move them, to where they play. That what Penrith did and we want to sign the old guy that couldn’t beat the kids for a spot? Wow. Next level bad management.

An absolutely terrible signing. We want pace in the back line and he doesn’t have it. We don’t need a “solid pro” who is a winger.

It *might* be an ok signing for a year. Three years for a 30-year-old winger is insanity - especially one coming off a string of injuries and a very sub-par season. Just a waste of a roster spot, regardless of salary.

Exactly. He would want to cost us minimum wage for all years if we signed him...big if.

Wingers don’t get faster as they age....
 
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263068) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263059) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263052) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262943) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262789) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262777) said:
Mansour on the cheap for a year or two would be fine. He and Tamou would certainly be a great example for our younger blokes and will help to set standards. ***I doubt Mansour would be starting every week***, rather creating competition for spots and if that was so, good. It won't block players at all, just make them earn their position.

Why the hell would we entertain a player that isnt good enough to get selected?

hahaha I think I've got a fan. What is it about my posts that works you up? Let it out.

To answer your question: depth. Do you think the Storm signed Brenko Lee and said "he'll definitely be our starter in the centres in a finals game"? They also had Seve and Momo so you'd doubt it but I'm sure they thought, in a pinch, he could fill in admirably for them. That's what I meant about the signing of Mansour. Solid pro who can be relied upon to put in no matter his circumstance in the team.

Short sighted signing blocking pathways for players that want to play 1st grade. Limits options for signing more juniors. We speak about signing kids for the future and block pathways with old players. Should have kept Benji if this is who we are signing.

It’s a classic retirement signing.

We don’t need old wingers. That’s a kids position these days. Blood them on the wings resign them and move them, to where they play. That what Penrith did and we want to sign the old guy that couldn’t beat the kids for a spot? Wow. Next level bad management.

An absolutely terrible signing. We want pace in the back line and he doesn’t have it. We don’t need a “solid pro” who is a winger.

It *might* be an ok signing for a year. Three years for a 30-year-old winger is insanity - especially one coming off a string of injuries and a very sub-par season. Just a waste of a roster spot, regardless of salary.

Exactly. He would want to cost us minimum wage for all years if we signed him...big if.

Wingers don’t get faster as they age....

It doesn’t appear that we are going to offer Roberts a contract from that article. I reckon the Dogs might pick him up.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263094) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263068) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263059) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263052) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262943) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262789) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262777) said:
Mansour on the cheap for a year or two would be fine. He and Tamou would certainly be a great example for our younger blokes and will help to set standards. ***I doubt Mansour would be starting every week***, rather creating competition for spots and if that was so, good. It won't block players at all, just make them earn their position.

Why the hell would we entertain a player that isnt good enough to get selected?

hahaha I think I've got a fan. What is it about my posts that works you up? Let it out.

To answer your question: depth. Do you think the Storm signed Brenko Lee and said "he'll definitely be our starter in the centres in a finals game"? They also had Seve and Momo so you'd doubt it but I'm sure they thought, in a pinch, he could fill in admirably for them. That's what I meant about the signing of Mansour. Solid pro who can be relied upon to put in no matter his circumstance in the team.

Short sighted signing blocking pathways for players that want to play 1st grade. Limits options for signing more juniors. We speak about signing kids for the future and block pathways with old players. Should have kept Benji if this is who we are signing.

It’s a classic retirement signing.

We don’t need old wingers. That’s a kids position these days. Blood them on the wings resign them and move them, to where they play. That what Penrith did and we want to sign the old guy that couldn’t beat the kids for a spot? Wow. Next level bad management.

An absolutely terrible signing. We want pace in the back line and he doesn’t have it. We don’t need a “solid pro” who is a winger.

It *might* be an ok signing for a year. Three years for a 30-year-old winger is insanity - especially one coming off a string of injuries and a very sub-par season. Just a waste of a roster spot, regardless of salary.

Exactly. He would want to cost us minimum wage for all years if we signed him...big if.

Wingers don’t get faster as they age....

It doesn’t appear that we are going to offer Roberts a contract from that article. I reckon the Dogs might pick him up.

I think the opposite. Lee has put his foot in it twice expressing interest in other players. Now he’s decided his approach is to go the other way and say there is no interest and it was just a catch up to check on his welfare, even though Pascoe was there with Hartigan and Roberts was there with his manager...
 
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263064) said:
I can see another Idris situation with developing with Jimmy the Joke,cheap is very rarely worthwhile.As for a 3 year contract for an over the hill winger in Mansour i am completely dumbfounded.a thousand times NO

My guess is if BJ got a 2 and 1 deal , then mansour will get a 1 and 1, ie . an option in the clubs favour . That’s a fair offer for a 30 yr old winger
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263095) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263094) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263068) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263059) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1263052) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262943) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262789) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262777) said:
Mansour on the cheap for a year or two would be fine. He and Tamou would certainly be a great example for our younger blokes and will help to set standards. ***I doubt Mansour would be starting every week***, rather creating competition for spots and if that was so, good. It won't block players at all, just make them earn their position.

Why the hell would we entertain a player that isnt good enough to get selected?

hahaha I think I've got a fan. What is it about my posts that works you up? Let it out.

To answer your question: depth. Do you think the Storm signed Brenko Lee and said "he'll definitely be our starter in the centres in a finals game"? They also had Seve and Momo so you'd doubt it but I'm sure they thought, in a pinch, he could fill in admirably for them. That's what I meant about the signing of Mansour. Solid pro who can be relied upon to put in no matter his circumstance in the team.

Short sighted signing blocking pathways for players that want to play 1st grade. Limits options for signing more juniors. We speak about signing kids for the future and block pathways with old players. Should have kept Benji if this is who we are signing.

It’s a classic retirement signing.

We don’t need old wingers. That’s a kids position these days. Blood them on the wings resign them and move them, to where they play. That what Penrith did and we want to sign the old guy that couldn’t beat the kids for a spot? Wow. Next level bad management.

An absolutely terrible signing. We want pace in the back line and he doesn’t have it. We don’t need a “solid pro” who is a winger.

It *might* be an ok signing for a year. Three years for a 30-year-old winger is insanity - especially one coming off a string of injuries and a very sub-par season. Just a waste of a roster spot, regardless of salary.

Exactly. He would want to cost us minimum wage for all years if we signed him...big if.

Wingers don’t get faster as they age....

It doesn’t appear that we are going to offer Roberts a contract from that article. I reckon the Dogs might pick him up.

I think the opposite. Lee has put his foot in it twice expressing interest in other players. Now he’s decided his approach is to go the other way and say there is no interest and it was just a catch up to check on his welfare, even though Pascoe was there with Hartigan and Roberts was there with his manager...

Exactly. Makes no sense
 
@PJ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262800) said:
Some people smh....
Whine about no speed, so we look at one of the fastest in the comp who can create out of nothing.
Still whine.
Worth a shot on a cheap contract. If he doesn't work out, we turf him.

If you want speed buy a Ferrari - a dormant sports car would be as good a defensive bollard as Roberts.

**NMN**
 
@Rowdy12 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262832) said:
Hear me out here. I actually think Mansour could be a great bench forward. Wayne Bennett played Michael Hancock in a similar role late in his career.

No - because he won't be here hopefully.

He'll be in the old men's home.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262920) said:
@hodgo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262869) said:
I liked what AJ did this year, but he was very prone to mistakes i honestly think he is a year away.


He really had a shocker his 1st game but has improved since then and in the side for the last 4 games of the season.
Think more game time will become a regular 1st grader.
This is what we need to encourage kids like this looking for an opportunity and getting better with game time. (Keeper)

Very difficult to join a team half way through a season.

A full off season with team mates and Madge will improve him out of sight.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262943) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262789) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262777) said:
Mansour on the cheap for a year or two would be fine. He and Tamou would certainly be a great example for our younger blokes and will help to set standards. ***I doubt Mansour would be starting every week***, rather creating competition for spots and if that was so, good. It won't block players at all, just make them earn their position.

Why the hell would we entertain a player that isnt good enough to get selected?

hahaha I think I've got a fan. What is it about my posts that works you up? Let it out.

Dont flatter yourself mate, its a forum. People post stuff, other people respond. I think ive responded to two of your posts, but thanks for noticing.


To answer your question: depth. Do you think the Storm signed Brenko Lee and said "he'll definitely be our starter in the centres in a finals game"? They also had Seve and Momo so you'd doubt it but I'm sure they thought, in a pinch, he could fill in admirably for them. That's what I meant about the signing of Mansour. Solid pro who can be relied upon to put in no matter his circumstance in the team.

Brenko Lee is the starting centre for the Storm. Seve and Momo are "depth". YOu can tell this because Lee gets picked and Seve and Momo dont.

Brenko Lee is 25 years old. Josh Mansour is 30yo and has had an ACL injury. You do not buy 30yo's with reconstructed knees for "depth".
 
@BAGNF05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262965) said:
@AdelaideTiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262962) said:
@Sausagesorcerer said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262951) said:
Burton is the one to chase.
He said Daine Laurie is a gun fullback panthers don’t want to lose him but are going to struggle to keep them all.
He had even bigger wraps on Burton, said he could be anything.he said he had serious wheels,one of the fastest in the squad.full package.ball playing,goal kicking and still hasn’t finished growing.

Burton can play, interesting to hear he has wheels, haven't seen that element of his game so far. I've seen his long and short kicking games, and we need them yesterday.

I just wonder what the plan is around AD, I think he has some good potential in the halves also.

Quick reality check. Burton is a future star. WT is not being entertained as an option. He’ll stay at Penrith and win a comp as a centre.

We probably should be going hard for Naden rather than ole rehab.

Right, don't go for Burton but go for Naden - wouldn't touch him, Mr. Turnstyle 2020.
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1262967) said:
The bulldogs are offering Burton 500 odd grand a year and he’s not even played 5 games. In order for us to even be within a shout of picking him up, we’d have to not sign mansour and Roberts. So basically we’re no chance

This is for 2022, not next year.
 

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