Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[happy_tiger]

I have a high opinion of Liddle. Not only is he very quick, his pass out of dummy half is excellent. When he is interviewed, I always come away impressed not only with how he speaks but his poise. To me he has the qualities required of a captain. His fightback from severe injury is inspirational.

Only problem Paws is that all that pace isn't back yet

And that is his biggest strength

 

[hsvjones]

Signings suggestions and rumours guys...if you want to have a measuring contest over who our number 9 should be, start a new thread.

You can only try and bring them back on track.... Thanks for trying :face_palm:

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Liddle is super fast, but right now Harry is a bigger threat running the footy. When did Liddle come to tigers? I know he was at Wyong for a while grew up playing there.

Harry is not a Wests Tiger any more so I don’t care.

That’s fine but let’s not pretend Liddle is better than him right now. Hoping he gets that good cause I’m a definite fan of his.

No one said that . I said I think Liddle is a better pure 9. And I think a lot of people agree . Grant is a superior player . That’s it .

 

[Devon Head]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Looks a crafty player but I have questions. Is he tough enough to play the game like Harry G or Hodgson? Is he smart enough to play the game in a dinner suit like Cam or Cook? Guess we’ll find out.

My concern is his durability over a full season. He's had serious shoulder and knee issues most seasons since his debut and hooker is one of the most physical roles in the team. He's def looked good at times though.

I think the fact the club has persisted with him for so long speaks volumes. Could have easily just not renewed him and let him rot away but the club keeps investing time in him and he gets first crack at 9. Now it’s time for him to repay the faith.

I agree with you to a degree however the Tigers wouldn't even be meeting with McInnis and apparently showing him around the facilities if they were sold on him. All for him getting a crack to prove otherwise though.

 

[Speed2burn]

I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Looks a crafty player but I have questions. Is he tough enough to play the game like Harry G or Hodgson? Is he smart enough to play the game in a dinner suit like Cam or Cook? Guess we’ll find out.

My concern is his durability over a full season. He's had serious shoulder and knee issues most seasons since his debut and hooker is one of the most physical roles in the team. He's def looked good at times though.

I think the fact the club has persisted with him for so long speaks volumes. Could have easily just not renewed him and let him rot away but the club keeps investing time in him and he gets first crack at 9. Now it’s time for him to repay the faith.

I agree with you to a degree however the Tigers wouldn't even be meeting with McInnis and apparently showing him around the facilities if they were sold on him. All for him getting a crack to prove otherwise though.

Mate I reckon the view is McInnes 13 and at the very least back up #9 if it all goes down hill.From my understanding the club is fully invested in Liddle and Simpkins however in the unlikely scenario it doesn’t work with them two you have McInnes who is still more than capable

 

[happy_tiger]

You don't kill it in a deciding SOO game if you can't play

Grant ........Flemington straight .....Liddle

We need an upgrade in 2022 and beyond

Particularly if Liddle doesn't step up and Simpkin can't step up straight away

You are so far behind the 8 ball if you don't have a quality 9 in the modern game

 

[Snake]

You don't kill it in a deciding SOO game if you can't play

Grant ........Flemington straight .....Liddle

We need an upgrade in 2022 and beyond

Particularly if Liddle doesn't step up and Simpkin can't step up straight away

You are so far behind the 8 ball if you don't have a quality 9 in the modern game

The 9 position does not even rate for me this coming season as I feel this position is covered 2 x quality 9’s. I have my observations about Grant and his longevity though.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

You don't kill it in a deciding SOO game if you can't play

Grant ........Flemington straight .....Liddle

We need an upgrade in 2022 and beyond

Particularly if Liddle doesn't step up and Simpkin can't step up straight away

You are so far behind the 8 ball if you don't have a quality 9 in the modern game

Disagree . As I’m not a Queenslander , I don’t have that loyalty to a player who isn’t ours anymore . I get it , he played well in game 3 , I just rate Liddle and don’t think the drop will be that significant . As we didn’t win anything with Grant here . And I don’t think his form at the end of the season, was anything to write home about . In fact , I think there was a clear drop in form. And we played far more direct with Liddle on the field .
But agree to disagree . I know it’s not the popular opinion . I have yet to truely see Simpkin play apart from some qld cup games 2 years ago . So I can’t comment .
Just as a hypothetical as a Queenslander , would you rather my opinion that Liddle turns out better , or yours , that grant is infinitely better ?

 

[cqtiger]

Last word on H Grant.

Will have a poor year because he is now doing commercials for TAG the local car yard in Rocky

 

[DGilly]

Why do people find this so hard - If we sign McInness it's to be a ball playing 13 like Radley. He can cover 9 if need be.

 

[Russell]

I mean there's no way Liddle is better than Grant. I hope he has a big year but be reasonable

I didn’t say that . I knew some of you would read it that way . I said Grants a better footballer, ball plays , close to the line , and creates . But Grants distribution is general play , was dismal . I’m not talking the fancy stuff . I’m talking tackle 3 ,on our own 20m . And from what I’ve seen if liddle , I notice , that in those situations , he will manipulate the markers , with fades of the body , deception with direction of pass etc. which allows the ball runner to get in behind the markers . Farah did this well, he just went superhero mode when we were in the red zone .And that’s where I think he learnt it.
Grant is a player you build the whole gameplan around . Liddle is better 9 for the system we play . If he stays healthy , I’m very confident you will see what I see .

Dismal? You’re joking right. Nothing about his game is dismal. Harry was masterful as keeping markers guessing too because he’s such a threat with the ball in his hand, and he proved that at the highest level of the game.

I like Liddle and think he’ll go well but yeesh the bias is astounding. Harry Grant was our best player every time he played really. Liddle will give our halves good service but based off brooks last season not sure if that’s good or not to be honest. Hopefully Jacob runs the ball a lot too, it’s essential with the new rules he needs to do the dirty work too

Your bias towards Harry is astounding as well... lol I will go Liddle over Harry... sorry to differ with your opinion. 🙂

It’s not bias it’s fact, he’s played state of origin and carved up at that level, he assists tries he scores tries and he’s a brilliant defender and a dangerous ball runner. It’s right there to watch, Liddle has never ever had a game that comes close to how good Harry is. I like Liddle and I think he’ll be fine for us, but to say he’s better than Harry is pretty crazy and a huge assumption because we just haven’t seen Liddle play that good ever.

Maybe you haven't.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Why do people find this so hard - If we sign McInness it's to be a ball playing 13 like Radley. He can cover 9 if need be.

I think that it’s about the $700K per season that has people against McInness.

 

[Russell]

You don't kill it in a deciding SOO game if you can't play

Grant ........Flemington straight .....Liddle

We need an upgrade in 2022 and beyond

Particularly if Liddle doesn't step up and Simpkin can't step up straight away

You are so far behind the 8 ball if you don't have a quality 9 in the modern game

We do have a quality nine.

 

[BAGNF05]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Love your passion for Liddle mate but nobody is making this Harry Grant stuff up. It’s not just hype. You’ll get plenty of chances to see it for yourself this year, origin games, grand finals and probably test matches included. Liddle’s big goal is playing FG.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Love your passion for Liddle mate but nobody is making this Harry Grant stuff up. It’s not just hype. You’ll get plenty of chances to see it for yourself this year, origin games, grand finals and probably test matches included. Liddle’s big goal is playing FG.

It’s not just passion mate . I get it , he’s had a stop start career and a lot of guys have gone off him, but I’ve got real high hopes for him . And I think the club does as well. I really like our spine this year . It’s the best one we’ve started the season with in a long time . There’s just a lot of upside to it .

 

[BAGNF05]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Love your passion for Liddle mate but nobody is making this Harry Grant stuff up. It’s not just hype. You’ll get plenty of chances to see it for yourself this year, origin games, grand finals and probably test matches included. Liddle’s big goal is playing FG.

It’s not just passion mate . I get it , he’s had a stop start career and a lot of guys have gone off him, but I’ve got real high hopes for him . And I think the club does as well. I really like our spine this year . It’s the best one we’ve started the season with in a long time . There’s just a lot of upside to it .

I like it too and good to see Liddle accepting some accountability in the media today and showing gratitude to the club. On the spine FB still worries me, I hope Laurie comes over soon.

 

[cochise]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Love your passion for Liddle mate but nobody is making this Harry Grant stuff up. It’s not just hype. You’ll get plenty of chances to see it for yourself this year, origin games, grand finals and probably test matches included. Liddle’s big goal is playing FG.

It’s not just passion mate . I get it , he’s had a stop start career and a lot of guys have gone off him, but I’ve got real high hopes for him . And I think the club does as well. I really like our spine this year . It’s the best one we’ve started the season with in a long time . There’s just a lot of upside to it .

I like it too and good to see Liddle accepting some accountability in the media today and showing gratitude to the club. On the spine FB still worries me, I hope Laurie comes over soon.

I believe, somewhat hopefully, that we will see a much better Mbye in 2021.

 

[walter]

I hope daine Laurie is as good as everyone on here makes him out to be

 

[BAGNF05]

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

Firstly, Harry is far more dangerous running the football, it’s probably the best part of his game so not sure why you think it’s his biggest weakness he ran the ball more than any other hooker in 2020. He makes far more line breaks when running the footy too.

As for service to the big fellas, his service is good as shown, his passes are just as good if he’s standing 30 metres further back there’s really no difference, he has that cam smith pass where it’s right in front of the props almost looks forward. Liddle has good passing for sure but if brooks struggles again it’ll be all for nothing and not sure he can control a game like Harry.

Whatever mate , I couldn’t be bothered anymore . I’m trying to be objective , and these are things I watched with a keen eye , last year, and Liddle the previous 2.Especially when the hype train , left the station. If your not even going to admit that Liddles speed out of dummy half is better , than your just lying to yourself now . Liddle is a line break threat every time he gets out . A clean break . I get it . Harry’s was your favourite player . You think he’s the bees knees . I personally don’t . I think he’s above average . And I will wait to reserve judgement , as one thing I know about this game , is how quickly perceptions can change. Like , if Liddle plays to his potential , the general opinion of him around here in 7 months .especially if he signs for say , the dogs . I think Liddle is a gun . Everything I’ve seen of him suggests it . And , he’s our gun . He’s a tigers junior .

Love your passion for Liddle mate but nobody is making this Harry Grant stuff up. It’s not just hype. You’ll get plenty of chances to see it for yourself this year, origin games, grand finals and probably test matches included. Liddle’s big goal is playing FG.

It’s not just passion mate . I get it , he’s had a stop start career and a lot of guys have gone off him, but I’ve got real high hopes for him . And I think the club does as well. I really like our spine this year . It’s the best one we’ve started the season with in a long time . There’s just a lot of upside to it .

I like it too and good to see Liddle accepting some accountability in the media today and showing gratitude to the club. On the spine FB still worries me, I hope Laurie comes over soon.

I believe, somewhat hopefully, that we will see a much better Mbye in 2021.

Persistent rumours about him going back to QLD not good. Is his heart in it?

 

[finnzo]

Am I getting something wrong here? Where in talks with a some 1 who is in the prime of the career and is on the verge of playing origin can cover hooker lock and second row if need be Has great leadership Is as tough as they come Knows Madge and some how people think this is a bad thing? I don’t get it would be an amazing signing if we can get it