Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[momo_amp_medo]

That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!

It doesn't work like that.

Tell me if you can, how it does work.
Why does the media have so much leverage over only a select few clubs?
Why do other clubs get away with silence until an official announcement is made.

If your going to tell me well because we aren’t one of the strong clubs and don’t have the relations to ensure favourable press.

We’ll explain to me how a basket case club like the bulldogs can get away with no misreporting until an offical announcement was made. Tigers have been linked to JAC the whole time then as soon as JAC said it’s not happening it was silence everywhere until an offical announcement.

The bulldogs used to have high influence with the likes of Ray Dib but he is no longer on their board.
In fact outside of the football team which is often gloated about the football club is reported as a shambles but yet media likes and players still flock to them.

We can’t get a favourable report from our very own James Hooper. Paid member and fan of the Tigers’s. Have the club shut him out so, now anything that doesn’t come his way he has a grind against?

They'll print whatever sells.

I don't understand why anyone gets pent up about media reporting. Media are generally lazy and desperate for attention / clicks. They'll trot out the same old stories if it continues to get views for their newspaper.

Tigers are easy to flog as we haven't made the finals in 10 years. It's much harder to fling mud at clubs who have had some decent success. Tigers are easy targets and with a large and wider supporter base to appeal to.

Secondary to all of this, I bet my bottom dollar that many clubs have as much negative reporting as Tigers do, but fans have selection bias towards Tigers news.

Couldn't agree more.
Just wanted to add logic, facts and reasoning usually evades their minds though so it can be amusing, if you choose to look at it that way.

I'll admit I don't like when we're baited though. I see Lee is now included in the Folau talk.

Why oh why would Lee want to get WT involved in the Folau circus.


Completely agree we have had a good off season why spoil it by speaking to a pensioner who creates division?

Lee is a problem.

He is also our Chairman and major sponsor, he can say what he likes, we all do.

How many Chairmen put their bib in ?

I don't know, you tell me, he is allowed to comment on anything he likes, as it happens, he was on his regular SEN broadcast, when apparently asked a question, which he seems to have answered quite well.

I agree .... he was asked a question and he handled it professionally. So not sure what the proble.

 

[tony soprano]

7 saying Walters gone unclear if this year. Perhaps clears up Hastings?

 

[twentyforty]

That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!

It doesn't work like that.

Tell me if you can, how it does work.
Why does the media have so much leverage over only a select few clubs?
Why do other clubs get away with silence until an official announcement is made.

If your going to tell me well because we aren’t one of the strong clubs and don’t have the relations to ensure favourable press.

We’ll explain to me how a basket case club like the bulldogs can get away with no misreporting until an offical announcement was made. Tigers have been linked to JAC the whole time then as soon as JAC said it’s not happening it was silence everywhere until an offical announcement.

The bulldogs used to have high influence with the likes of Ray Dib but he is no longer on their board.
In fact outside of the football team which is often gloated about the football club is reported as a shambles but yet media likes and players still flock to them.

We can’t get a favourable report from our very own James Hooper. Paid member and fan of the Tigers’s. Have the club shut him out so, now anything that doesn’t come his way he has a grind against?

For starters, you stated that the club should prevent access to media, that is not possible as there are rules around providing access to the media.

Other clubs signings are rumoured in the media as well it is not just us.

Also the less our coach is heard in the media the better, do you want him responding to every rumour of who we sign?

The best way to stop negative reporting is to win games.

But doesn’t the silence thus initiating the speculation then paint a less favourable light for the club?
They had no right to state not speculate but pretty much infer that our club missed out on signing him. We did not make an offer.
That statement could put off other potential signings.

I would love the club to put out a statement saying that we didn't offer McInnes a contract, but you need to consider what that says about a player. You are publicly stating you didn't want him, that is not a good idea and can put off other potential signings as well.

No I understand that. Absolutely. Your right about how results silences the critics.
Maybe what someone else said. Make meetings more private and not involve the coach and CEO until a follow up meeting? It’s not like there is much inventory to pick from at the moment with all teams having at least 27 players signed.
Makes you wonder who the roosters are going to entice to break their current contract and fill the Cordner void...

Souths will release Crichton freeing up $ to re sign Latrell
You heard it here 1st
Just looked at my crystal ball.

Is that a joke , if not do I need to tell you what’s wrong with what you said !

Souths and Rorters are the same team aren't they
Both in the city of Sydney
Both unlimited cap
Both receive favourable cap exemptions
Both hated teams
Both founded in 1908
Latrell Mitchell played for both of them
Angus Crichton played for both of them

Ah that's where I went wrong
Technically part of him is still at souths
I believe they still have his finger

I think he literally gave them the finger.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Fox Sports

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Israel Folau’s potential return to the NRL appears to be dead in the water after St George Illawarra withdrew interest in signing the controversial star.

The Dragons made the decision at an extraordinary general meeting on Wednesday afternoon.

“While the Dragons did enquire about signing Folau, the club can confirm that such discussions have now ceased,” a club statement confirmed.

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-israel-folau-dragons-signing-news-contract-homophobic-posts-salary/news-story/583e05b8b36d82ebff1661e4fcc3a302

This bit of bile from Andrew Webster SMH;

After the story about the Dragons’ interest in Folau broke, Manly and the Wests Tigers predictably came knocking.

 

[JC99]

7 saying Walters gone unclear if this year. Perhaps clears up Hastings?

They're saying he could be gone as early as next week. Hastings would be good but sounds like he's staying in England for this year? Surely the club would have a plan and wouldn't just let Walters go for no reason

 

[JC99]

Fox Sports

----
Israel Folau’s potential return to the NRL appears to be dead in the water after St George Illawarra withdrew interest in signing the controversial star.

The Dragons made the decision at an extraordinary general meeting on Wednesday afternoon.

“While the Dragons did enquire about signing Folau, the club can confirm that such discussions have now ceased,” a club statement confirmed.

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-israel-folau-dragons-signing-news-contract-homophobic-posts-salary/news-story/583e05b8b36d82ebff1661e4fcc3a302

This bit of bile from Andrew Webster SMH;

After the story about the Dragons’ interest in Folau broke, Manly and the Wests Tigers predictably came knocking.

There were rumours a while ago on here that madge wanted to sign him but our board said no

 

[tigerballs]

I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine

We are way better in attack and defence with Mbye at the back than anyone else who has been on our roster the last 3 years . . As long as he works in his catch under pressure , that’s his only real down fall . He can make the first defender miss a lot, but if he is hitting a defensive wall he can lack penetration with his kick returns . This shouldn’t be as much of an issue now the other 4 backline players all have that penetration and can poke thier nose through .


I can see him being an unorthodox type of fullback, IE he probably won't run the ball back too much from kick returns like your tedescos, RTS's etc, iirc he never really did anyway. But his best asset was always that swooping extra man play he did and his support play.

It’s funny cause the year we got him from the dogs , he was constantly making line breaks from staggered defensive lines.
He’s good man , hopefully he’s over his injuries and we can see that player again.

I've watched them train a few times and Mbye is absolutely flying. If he can transfer that to game day he's going to be massive for us.

 

[AJ1]

NRL news Walters going to Broncos next week.

Zach Dockar-Clay for Walters?

A half back / hooker, not a bad swap, if true?

I though ZDC was already with us on a train n trial???

Yes, so if he has trialled well it would make sense for him to replace Walters in our 30

 

[AJ1]

I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine

We are way better in attack and defence with Mbye at the back than anyone else who has been on our roster the last 3 years . . As long as he works in his catch under pressure , that’s his only real down fall . He can make the first defender miss a lot, but if he is hitting a defensive wall he can lack penetration with his kick returns . This shouldn’t be as much of an issue now the other 4 backline players all have that penetration and can poke thier nose through .


I can see him being an unorthodox type of fullback, IE he probably won't run the ball back too much from kick returns like your tedescos, RTS's etc, iirc he never really did anyway. But his best asset was always that swooping extra man play he did and his support play.

It’s funny cause the year we got him from the dogs , he was constantly making line breaks from staggered defensive lines.
He’s good man , hopefully he’s over his injuries and we can see that player again.

I've watched them train a few times and Mbye is absolutely flying. If he can transfer that to game day he's going to be massive for us.

Everything is aligning and building for Mybe to be our MVP this year. If he plays to 80% of his salary I will be extremely happy.

 

[TYGA]

I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine

We are way better in attack and defence with Mbye at the back than anyone else who has been on our roster the last 3 years . . As long as he works in his catch under pressure , that’s his only real down fall . He can make the first defender miss a lot, but if he is hitting a defensive wall he can lack penetration with his kick returns . This shouldn’t be as much of an issue now the other 4 backline players all have that penetration and can poke thier nose through .


I can see him being an unorthodox type of fullback, IE he probably won't run the ball back too much from kick returns like your tedescos, RTS's etc, iirc he never really did anyway. But his best asset was always that swooping extra man play he did and his support play.

It’s funny cause the year we got him from the dogs , he was constantly making line breaks from staggered defensive lines.
He’s good man , hopefully he’s over his injuries and we can see that player again.

I've watched them train a few times and Mbye is absolutely flying. If he can transfer that to game day he's going to be massive for us.

Everything is aligning and building for Mybe to be our MVP this year. If he plays to 80% of his salary I will be extremely happy.

If he’s out MVP we wrap up the spoon.

 

[AJ1]

I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine

We are way better in attack and defence with Mbye at the back than anyone else who has been on our roster the last 3 years . . As long as he works in his catch under pressure , that’s his only real down fall . He can make the first defender miss a lot, but if he is hitting a defensive wall he can lack penetration with his kick returns . This shouldn’t be as much of an issue now the other 4 backline players all have that penetration and can poke thier nose through .


I can see him being an unorthodox type of fullback, IE he probably won't run the ball back too much from kick returns like your tedescos, RTS's etc, iirc he never really did anyway. But his best asset was always that swooping extra man play he did and his support play.

It’s funny cause the year we got him from the dogs , he was constantly making line breaks from staggered defensive lines.
He’s good man , hopefully he’s over his injuries and we can see that player again.

I've watched them train a few times and Mbye is absolutely flying. If he can transfer that to game day he's going to be massive for us.

Everything is aligning and building for Mybe to be our MVP this year. If he plays to 80% of his salary I will be extremely happy.

If he’s out MVP we wrap up the spoon.

Only if he plays like he has previous years, but that's not what I/others are implying

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine

We are way better in attack and defence with Mbye at the back than anyone else who has been on our roster the last 3 years . . As long as he works in his catch under pressure , that’s his only real down fall . He can make the first defender miss a lot, but if he is hitting a defensive wall he can lack penetration with his kick returns . This shouldn’t be as much of an issue now the other 4 backline players all have that penetration and can poke thier nose through .


I can see him being an unorthodox type of fullback, IE he probably won't run the ball back too much from kick returns like your tedescos, RTS's etc, iirc he never really did anyway. But his best asset was always that swooping extra man play he did and his support play.

It’s funny cause the year we got him from the dogs , he was constantly making line breaks from staggered defensive lines.
He’s good man , hopefully he’s over his injuries and we can see that player again.

I've watched them train a few times and Mbye is absolutely flying. If he can transfer that to game day he's going to be massive for us.

Everything is aligning and building for Mybe to be our MVP this year. If he plays to 80% of his salary I will be extremely happy.

If he’s out MVP we wrap up the spoon.

Only if he plays like he has previous years, but that's not what I/others are implying

I reckon he’s going to play well . When we got him people were saying he was one of the top fullbacks despite being on it for half a year .

 

[cochise]

7 saying Walters gone unclear if this year. Perhaps clears up Hastings?

They're saying he could be gone as early as next week. Hastings would be good but sounds like he's staying in England for this year? Surely the club would have a plan and wouldn't just let Walters go for no reason

He is injured anyway, as long as we bring in another spine player.

 

[iofthetigers]

7 saying Walters gone unclear if this year. Perhaps clears up Hastings?

A 3 team swap would be sensational. Walters >broncos lodge> panthers > Laurie > Tigers

 

[Lauren]

That’s 100% correct no formal offer was put forward to McInnes or his management, catch up was to gage exactly where he was at & his thoughts on playing position which at the time was Hooker or nothing else hence discussions didn’t really eventuate further.
Seems McInnes has had a re-think on his Hooker stance.

**The Tigers should have been smarter.**

**The Club Should rethink the publicity associated with public meetings.**

This would avoid sensationalist stories being published and leaving the our club again looking like it took a yet another blow in the recruitment market.


Been thinking that as well. Madge is very hands on but might make sense to let Hartigan do the public meetings, he’s a lot less recognisable.

In response to a couple of the above quotes.
The club being smarter about it.

Agree. We probably need to be less and more transparent. In the case of meetings. I feel it’s fine to have meetings between players and the coach. What I would like to hear is Madge openly refruting media reports.
In the case of meeting with Cam.
Quote something like. “Cam is a solid player and would be a welcome addition to any team as the opening statement.
If pressed further, state, “cam and I have a previous history from another club and he was just after some career advise. Pressed if the tigers would sign him to play hooker or any other position.
“No, we are very satisfied with our current roster”
Not one of our front facing people. Coach, recruitment manager, CEO or Chairman should make a statement saying they are looking at signing this player.

Furthermore to that. It’s time the tigers get on the front foot with the media.
Threaten them with removing any chance of exposure.

This whole we have a preferred reporter and leaking little droplets out to those sources is crueling us.
Treat the media. All sources as an equal entity and deny them access. Only provide them information through offical club statements.
If they don’t agree. Tell them we just going to give up red herrings at every opportunity and we will not allow you access to our players.
Make a stand!

It doesn't work like that.

Tell me if you can, how it does work.
Why does the media have so much leverage over only a select few clubs?
Why do other clubs get away with silence until an official announcement is made.

If your going to tell me well because we aren’t one of the strong clubs and don’t have the relations to ensure favourable press.

We’ll explain to me how a basket case club like the bulldogs can get away with no misreporting until an offical announcement was made. Tigers have been linked to JAC the whole time then as soon as JAC said it’s not happening it was silence everywhere until an offical announcement.

The bulldogs used to have high influence with the likes of Ray Dib but he is no longer on their board.
In fact outside of the football team which is often gloated about the football club is reported as a shambles but yet media likes and players still flock to them.

We can’t get a favourable report from our very own James Hooper. Paid member and fan of the Tigers’s. Have the club shut him out so, now anything that doesn’t come his way he has a grind against?

They'll print whatever sells.

I don't understand why anyone gets pent up about media reporting. Media are generally lazy and desperate for attention / clicks. They'll trot out the same old stories if it continues to get views for their newspaper.

Tigers are easy to flog as we haven't made the finals in 10 years. It's much harder to fling mud at clubs who have had some decent success. Tigers are easy targets and with a large and wider supporter base to appeal to.

Secondary to all of this, I bet my bottom dollar that many clubs have as much negative reporting as Tigers do, but fans have selection bias towards Tigers news.

Couldn't agree more.
Just wanted to add logic, facts and reasoning usually evades their minds though so it can be amusing, if you choose to look at it that way.

I'll admit I don't like when we're baited though. I see Lee is now included in the Folau talk.

His comments? No doubt was asked a question?

Tigers wouldn’t sign Folau, but ex-Wallaby may have grounds to challenge NRL contract rule

Revealed: The test Izzy must pass to get greenlight for NRL return

www.foxsports.com.au

**Tigers wouldn’t sign Folau, but ex-Wallaby may have grounds to challenge NRL contract rule**

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipentalis says there is no way his club would consider signing Israel Folau, but admitted the former Wallaby may have a good chance of legally challenging the NRL if they refuse to register his contract.
Folau was linked with a surprise return to the NRL on Tuesday with St George Illawarra on the same day it emerged the Red V’s skipper, Cameron McInnes, would join Cronulla.

The former dual-code international has spent the last year playing in Super League with Catalans Dragons after he was sacked by Rugby Australia over homophobic social media posts.

Hagipentalis, a qualified lawyer, appeared on SEN where he made it clear, in his view, the Tigers would have no interest in signing Folau.

“Should he be allowed back in the NRL? It’s a judgment call,” Hagipentalis said.

“I would have great difficulty in signing him for the Wests Tigers. I disagree vehemently with a lot of his public comments, they concern me generally. I think that would be the consensus among our fans and members.

“He’s a great player, but there’s a significant and potential downside and risk to engage someone who has the potential to be very vocal and divides and that’s not something that would be suitable to the culture we’ve built at the Wests Tigers.”

While the Tigers are not interested in adding Folau, the Dragons certainly are.

The problem, though, is Folau’s contract would need to be registered.

ARL commission chairman Peter V’landys has previously said there is no place for Folau’s views in the NRL.

However, Hagipentalis, said that Folau, who took Rugby Australia through a lengthy and expensive legal battle over his sacking, could have grounds to have his registration approved.

“The test is whether he is a fit and proper person, that’s a decision to be made by the NRL,” he added.

“That’s obviously subject to the NRL. If the NRL in its infinite wisdom that he was not a fit and proper person and then refused registration, you’d expect that would be subject to a challenge.

“Fit and proper person is not a test unique to the NRL. To become a lawyer in NSW you need to be a fit and proper person. And I can tell you there are a few people have been admitted as solicitors who some people might raise an eyebrow to.

“Israel Folau, to my knowledge, has not committed any criminal offence, charged with any criminal offence. He’s made very public statement which are proven to be very divisive and contrary to what I think is the broader community view.

“Is that sufficient to deny him an opportunity to ply his trade? That remains to be seen.”

Sorry mate just ignore my comments please?
(Lee has a particular Brydens Lawyers segment on the show and I therefore had my wires crossed).
I'm also probably feeling a tad overexcited right now - with the new season being just around the corner.
It's the calm before the storm!!

I'm not joking about my anticipation levels though. I find It's getting pretty hard to contain.. the closer we get.

Also, thanks @davey_farrell. You're a true gentleman and a good sport

 

[Needaname]

7 saying Walters gone unclear if this year. Perhaps clears up Hastings?

A 3 team swap would be sensational. Walters >broncos lodgepanthers Laurie Tigers

Where has that come from?

People do understand that by releasing Dane Laurie the Panthers do not get either salary cap relief or an additional squad spot. He is a development player on their roster, not in the 30.
This is going to play out the same way it did with Parra and Stefano.

 

[cochise]

7 saying Walters gone unclear if this year. Perhaps clears up Hastings?

A 3 team swap would be sensational. Walters >broncos lodgepanthers Laurie Tigers

Where has that come from?

People do understand that by releasing Dane Laurie the Panthers do not get either salary cap relief or an additional squad spot. He is a development player on their roster, not in the 30.
This is going to play out the same way it did with Parra and Stefano.

The only benefit they get would be to add a player who will be there long term to their development squad, though they still have space for another development player if they wanted to do that.

 

[clontarfkid]

I dont expect Laurie nor Hastings to arrive this season
Were desperate for experienced spine back up for 2021(which itself will kill us),so while I dont rate Walters at all hes the only experienced halves/hooker back up we have so we have to hang onto him this year,,,then not renew for 22
We'll also have a good feel for Liddles durability after 8-10 rounds...if hes out long term yet again we dont renew and its time to throw a big chunk of the wallet at Brandon Smith unless Simpkins performs like Harry(unlikely..but possible)
We'll also have a good feel after just a month or so on both Brooks and Douhi and hopefully Madden,and if theyre not working out throw whatevers s left in the wallet at Hastings for 22 onwards...in fact,with 12 clubs allegedly circulating ,I wld have already tabled an offer.I just dont think Brooks will perform under Madge

 

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I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill...Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021..
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1...
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time...
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player...Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s).....

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we're not in the 8.


yep the jury is definitely out, but if he can be solid without being spectacular i think we will be fine

We are way better in attack and defence with Mbye at the back than anyone else who has been on our roster the last 3 years . . As long as he works in his catch under pressure , that’s his only real down fall . He can make the first defender miss a lot, but if he is hitting a defensive wall he can lack penetration with his kick returns . This shouldn’t be as much of an issue now the other 4 backline players all have that penetration and can poke thier nose through .


I can see him being an unorthodox type of fullback, IE he probably won't run the ball back too much from kick returns like your tedescos, RTS's etc, iirc he never really did anyway. But his best asset was always that swooping extra man play he did and his support play.

It’s funny cause the year we got him from the dogs , he was constantly making line breaks from staggered defensive lines.
He’s good man , hopefully he’s over his injuries and we can see that player again.

It seems like you think i don't rate him at fullback , i do, i'm basically agreeing with you, all i was saying was he isn't your meter eater fullback like a james tedesco or RTS

 

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NRL news Walters going to Broncos next week.

Hope were getting something in return... where was the rumour posted?

who even from Brisbane is worth pursuing apart from Haas and Staggs? which i have more chance of getting struck by lightning than us signing either of them two

Dearden?