Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I just want to see him get back on the field first. This season is pretty much a write off for him. As long as he gets on the field, gets maybe 10-12 games under his belt, then reassess in the off season.
 
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519719) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519701) said:
@red-rugby said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519676) said:
Blake Ferguson Anyone?

Apparently he's on the lookout for a new club after he his shenanigans in Japan

Your joking?

It would be a Tiger signing 100 percent the only sticking point would be if it's a 3 or 4 year contract

Maybe 4 year contract, wouldn't want to put his nose out of joint.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

I hope not, he's far too good a playmaker to be stuck as a ball runner. Most try assists this season for us
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519754) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i

It's not the only reason, He's Big - And Slow...
And coming back from another mobility issue
(He's not getting faster or more agile)

His best skill is his Ball Running - And tackle busting ability.
He might be our best 6 last year, But this year he could well be our best back rower.
 
In 2022 we have halves that we did not have in Brooks and Hastings.
Douhie is awkward to tackle and woukd make a great 13, with some ball playing ability. Years ago Curtis sironen could play 6 and turned in to a good backrower
I doubt 6 will be Douhie's long term future at the Tigers
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519755) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519754) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i

It's not the only reason, He's Big - And Slow...
And coming back from another mobility issue
(He's not getting faster or more agile)

His best skill is his Ball Running - And tackle busting ability.
He might be our best 6 last year, But this year he could well be our best back rower.

He's not even slow ? he's not electric but he's not slow, certainly not forward slow. You don't know how he will fare from his surgery either, Teddy did his knee and still moves real good.

The obsession with moving players into positions they aren't built for and have literally never played before needs to stop.

Put him into the back row and you expose his defensive issues more than ever, you take away majority of his ball playing, you take away his kicking game and his running game will suffer because instead of running with room he's carting it up as a forward most of the time and getting less footy near the line!

From a football standpoint, makes absolutely no sense. You're taking our best player and weakening his best attributes for no reason. When he was at centre it killed us in close games because instead of him touching the footy when it mattered, Brooks and Mbye were. Who would even play 6 in his spot? And please don't say Laurie ?
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

His best game for us was in the centres v Newcastle ..2 TRIES 3 Tackle busts 2 TRY assists 152 running metres…
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519758) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519755) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519754) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i

It's not the only reason, He's Big - And Slow...
And coming back from another mobility issue
(He's not getting faster or more agile)

His best skill is his Ball Running - And tackle busting ability.
He might be our best 6 last year, But this year he could well be our best back rower.

He's not even slow ? he's not electric but he's not slow, certainly not forward slow. You don't know how he will fare from his surgery either, Teddy did his knee and still moves real good.

The obsession with moving players into positions they aren't built for and have literally never played before needs to stop.

Put him into the back row and you expose his defensive issues more than ever, you take away majority of his ball playing, you take away his kicking game and his running game will suffer because instead of running with room he's carting it up as a forward most of the time and getting less footy near the line!

From a football standpoint, makes absolutely no sense. You're taking our best player and weakening his best attributes for no reason. When he was at centre it killed us in close games because instead of him touching the footy when it mattered, Brooks and Mbye were. Who would even play 6 in his spot? And please don't say Laurie ?

He's slow of the mark, Slower than most back rowers these days
Teddy didn't do 2 ACL's in the same knee
It's not an obsession, It's where players of his size / Dynamic wind up - Sutton, Sironen, Matterson - Even Wally Lewis played loose forward... It's been happening since forever. (For good reason)

Haven't you been dribbling over Hastings for the best part of 6 months? Maybe he can take his spot?
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

I'd probably say his best bet is to stick with 6. Realistically only has has 1 year to develop at 6. Unless Brooks and Hastings absolutely fire and have no injuries I'd say he'd be back at 6.
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519760) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519758) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519755) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519754) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i

It's not the only reason, He's Big - And Slow...
And coming back from another mobility issue
(He's not getting faster or more agile)

His best skill is his Ball Running - And tackle busting ability.
He might be our best 6 last year, But this year he could well be our best back rower.

He's not even slow ? he's not electric but he's not slow, certainly not forward slow. You don't know how he will fare from his surgery either, Teddy did his knee and still moves real good.

The obsession with moving players into positions they aren't built for and have literally never played before needs to stop.

Put him into the back row and you expose his defensive issues more than ever, you take away majority of his ball playing, you take away his kicking game and his running game will suffer because instead of running with room he's carting it up as a forward most of the time and getting less footy near the line!

From a football standpoint, makes absolutely no sense. You're taking our best player and weakening his best attributes for no reason. When he was at centre it killed us in close games because instead of him touching the footy when it mattered, Brooks and Mbye were. Who would even play 6 in his spot? And please don't say Laurie ?

He's slow of the mark, Slower than most back rowers these days
Teddy didn't do 2 ACL's in the same knee
It's not an obsession, It's where players of his size / Dynamic wind up - Sutton, Sironen, Matterson - Even Wally Lewis played loose forward... It's been happening since forever. (For good reason)

Haven't you been dribbling over Hastings for the best part of 6 months? Maybe he can take his spot?

Doueihi isn't close to the size of any of those players you mentioned... he's way more mobile than all of them and has shown a much wider range of skills. Sutton only moved to 5/8 later in his career and Matterson and Sironen struggled in the halves before they made the NRL or after a few games. Doueihi has already proven to be an effective 6, your comparisons are very very loose.

Hastings is a 7 much more than a 6. Ideally he's halfback and Doueihi 6. Moving him cause hes bigger than your average half is such a bad reason, especially after he's already showing how good he can be.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519762) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519760) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519758) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519755) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519754) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i

It's not the only reason, He's Big - And Slow...
And coming back from another mobility issue
(He's not getting faster or more agile)

His best skill is his Ball Running - And tackle busting ability.
He might be our best 6 last year, But this year he could well be our best back rower.

He's not even slow ? he's not electric but he's not slow, certainly not forward slow. You don't know how he will fare from his surgery either, Teddy did his knee and still moves real good.

The obsession with moving players into positions they aren't built for and have literally never played before needs to stop.

Put him into the back row and you expose his defensive issues more than ever, you take away majority of his ball playing, you take away his kicking game and his running game will suffer because instead of running with room he's carting it up as a forward most of the time and getting less footy near the line!

From a football standpoint, makes absolutely no sense. You're taking our best player and weakening his best attributes for no reason. When he was at centre it killed us in close games because instead of him touching the footy when it mattered, Brooks and Mbye were. Who would even play 6 in his spot? And please don't say Laurie ?

He's slow of the mark, Slower than most back rowers these days
Teddy didn't do 2 ACL's in the same knee
It's not an obsession, It's where players of his size / Dynamic wind up - Sutton, Sironen, Matterson - Even Wally Lewis played loose forward... It's been happening since forever. (For good reason)

Haven't you been dribbling over Hastings for the best part of 6 months? Maybe he can take his spot?

Doueihi isn't close to the size of any of those players you mentioned... he's way more mobile than all of them and has shown a much wider range of skills. Sutton only moved to 5/8 later in his career and Matterson and Sironen struggled in the halves before they made the NRL or after a few games. Doueihi has already proven to be an effective 6, your comparisons are very very loose.

Hastings is a 7 much more than a 6. Ideally he's halfback and Doueihi 6. Moving him cause hes bigger than your average half is such a bad reason, especially after he's already showing how good he can be.

I’m not moving him because he’s big - I’m moving him because his future won’t be at 6 (despite what you think), I’m putting him in the back row - as that’s where I see him ending up.. probably edge over middle…
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519758) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519755) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519754) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i

It's not the only reason, He's Big - And Slow...
And coming back from another mobility issue
(He's not getting faster or more agile)

His best skill is his Ball Running - And tackle busting ability.
He might be our best 6 last year, But this year he could well be our best back rower.

He's not even slow ? he's not electric but he's not slow, certainly not forward slow. You don't know how he will fare from his surgery either, Teddy did his knee and still moves real good.

The obsession with moving players into positions they aren't built for and have literally never played before needs to stop.

Put him into the back row and you expose his defensive issues more than ever, you take away majority of his ball playing, you take away his kicking game and his running game will suffer because instead of running with room he's carting it up as a forward most of the time and getting less footy near the line!

From a football standpoint, makes absolutely no sense. You're taking our best player and weakening his best attributes for no reason. When he was at centre it killed us in close games because instead of him touching the footy when it mattered, Brooks and Mbye were. Who would even play 6 in his spot? And please don't say Laurie ?

difference is now it is Brooks and Hastings touching the ball more, even if you are a knock on Brooks, Hastings is an upgrade on Mmbye
 
2022, the goal should be to just improve on 2021.
More effort and developing youth.

2023, Papali is one of the back rowers.
We need to work out who will the other be.

Garner - Staying or going?
Blore - is he the answer or another debut game star and average after (Like Brooks 🤫)

Personally, a few can really crack on this year and make their claims.

I'm expecting a big year from the KOE team.

I expect to see a lot from : Tuki Simpkin, Alex Seyfarth, Christian Maanaima and the development lads like OKane, Tumeth, Saukura, one of the hardest working lads you may have never heard of - Brandon Mansfield.

As well as exciting prospects like Dillon, Guyan, Tannous, among others - when given the chance, in NSW cup....

We are on the verge of seeing some real stars break through, in my opinion... we just need to put the work into them and put the right experience around them (guys like Peach, Api and Papz... as well as leaders like AD and Twal)

Exciting times ahead.
 
Im looking to see how Hastings goes as an organiser.

This is what we have missed in previous seasons.

Then we can make a call on future of all the halves at the club and whe we recruit and who is let go.
 
Will this be the make or break year for Brooks .. as much as like Brooks he has gotta show us why we are still holding onto him. Having a talker / organiser like Hastings (6) and Peachey (13) along side of Brooks should help him .. hopefully. I reckon if he doesnt fire this year .. Sheens will be calling him in telling him to find a new club. Which is a pity as next season with Api at 9 and Papilli coming on board our side looks a lot more stable. It would be nice if we can pick up another player this for season either it be another player from ESL or another current player from an NRL club .. ??
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519762) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519760) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519758) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519755) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519754) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519748) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519747) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519745) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519740) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519737) said:
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519720) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1519715) said:
I’m hoping Hastings goes alright he resurrected his career over there, his ability was always there for a better than average player but his attitude was the issue. It’s pretty apparent even he recognised that and was willing to give it an adjustment. My hope is him an Brookes gel Brooks isn’t a talker Hastings is, Brooks arguably has more ability but can’t talk.

Yeah, perfect example is the halves combination in 2014, one being probably the most loathed of all signings in Anasta and the other bolting in as rookie of the season. Braith didn't do much with the footy at all, with Brooks handling some 95% of it, but he did do the talking, guiding and pointing, and along with Potter let Luke do what he does naturally.

Was expecting Doueihi to be our six and shine there last season and still hope that he can, but now expect that the centre position will be his most suited position before moving on to being a backrower in the future. Sorry to upset some, but I increasingly see him similarly as a Sironen type. That being a half with some skills whose big body has got him through to grade, but not quite up to the next level in the halves. Again, hope that I was correct with my original assessment.

With Adam's injury and Peachey now on deck likely to fulfil the dynamic lock role, Hastings is definitely going to be a half and I truly think that his talk, tenacity and direction as a true half will allow Brooks to get on with his own.

Relevant to the thread, it has all gone very quiet on the rumours front.

Totally agree with you on AD - I’m glad someone finally said it…
He’s too big and slow for the halves, he’s still young, he’ll have to learn to defend a bit better and he’ll get to the back row (possibly even lock) but he needs to accept that and move forward…
I only wonder if he’ll kill it like like Lewis - or break down?
But that’s where he needs to set his sights - he’ll get left behind if he tries to make a career of 6

His best career footy has been at 6, all his best attributes are those of a 6. He's 23 and had injury problems, let's let him develop at 6 because he's showed massive promise there. Wasted out at centre barely touching the footy and he's too slim for the forwards.

Nah, I think his future is in the back row/lock.

Hard question his best position.

Good at a few positions master at none at this point.

Would need a lot of development to make it in the forwards. Size improved defence ect.

He's bigger than Radley, Murray, McInness....
Has the size, Provided he makes the move ASAP,
Defence is his biggest issue, That may improve in the middle though - Bit easier to read.

And JC99, Some would argue (myself included) his best Footy was played at 1 - For Souths...
He carried them into that final series... That forms what we bought him on.

He only played a handful of games for them at the back that year in a much superior team.... over the whole season it was his best ever year and it was at 6. He was in great form when he got moved out of 6 and did really well when he got moved back to 6

Who cares if he's big, doesn't mean he HAS to be moved, seems the only reason people want to move him. He's 23, maybe when he's closer to 30 he can be moved but that's a while away. Moving our best player to a position where his best skills are weakened just makes no sense.

We have a very good 6 on our hands let's develop him there. Good halves are hard to come by, there's an abundance of good back rowers or middles available. We already signed Papali'i

It's not the only reason, He's Big - And Slow...
And coming back from another mobility issue
(He's not getting faster or more agile)

His best skill is his Ball Running - And tackle busting ability.
He might be our best 6 last year, But this year he could well be our best back rower.

He's not even slow ? he's not electric but he's not slow, certainly not forward slow. You don't know how he will fare from his surgery either, Teddy did his knee and still moves real good.

The obsession with moving players into positions they aren't built for and have literally never played before needs to stop.

Put him into the back row and you expose his defensive issues more than ever, you take away majority of his ball playing, you take away his kicking game and his running game will suffer because instead of running with room he's carting it up as a forward most of the time and getting less footy near the line!

From a football standpoint, makes absolutely no sense. You're taking our best player and weakening his best attributes for no reason. When he was at centre it killed us in close games because instead of him touching the footy when it mattered, Brooks and Mbye were. Who would even play 6 in his spot? And please don't say Laurie ?

He's slow of the mark, Slower than most back rowers these days
Teddy didn't do 2 ACL's in the same knee
It's not an obsession, It's where players of his size / Dynamic wind up - Sutton, Sironen, Matterson - Even Wally Lewis played loose forward... It's been happening since forever. (For good reason)

Haven't you been dribbling over Hastings for the best part of 6 months? Maybe he can take his spot?

Doueihi isn't close to the size of any of those players you mentioned... he's way more mobile than all of them and has shown a much wider range of skills. **Sutton only moved to 5/8 later in his career and Matterson and Sironen struggled in the halves before they made the NRL or after a few games**. Doueihi has already proven to be an effective 6, your comparisons are very very loose.

Hastings is a 7 much more than a 6. Ideally he's halfback and Doueihi 6. Moving him cause hes bigger than your average half is such a bad reason, especially after he's already showing how good he can be.

Literally none of what you've said there is factual..
Sutton started in the Centres / 5/8 went to Back Row around Sandow (Maybe Wing) years - Then back to 5/8 basically, until the emergence of Keary. - Even the premiership year (2014) he was at 5/8 a bunch!!

Sironen had so much time with the ball coming through at 5/8, Even coming to grade - He went well in the halves (For a Baby)
Matterson was great coming through in the Halves - He just outgrew the position.

I try hard to respect what you say....
Hard to keep doing when you keep fabricating it on the run.
 
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