Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[TheDaBoss]

Looking at the Roosters, panthers and storm.
I see a lot of speed, not the social kind haha.
Speed is there weapon along with good direction.
Without speed you can’t win the race, chasing kicks backing up in support, making breaks and not being run down....that’s were they win it every week.
We need speed, it doesn’t matter if there well known or green as Gumby we just need some pace in our back line to give us a leg up.

Spot on.

The 6 again rule has made speed even more important - especially if you have a couple of cluey playmakers and a forward that can offload.

The best way to play at the moment seems be to roll it up, the middle, get an offload, get a six again then go wide at speed for a try

2005 Tigers would’ve killed it with how the games currently played. Big men had skills we loved throwing the ball around and Benji would’ve killed opposition defence lines

just a shame its 2020

#getover2005

Everyone gonna be talking a about the 2021 tigers next year

 

[happy_tiger]

Looking at the Roosters, panthers and storm.
I see a lot of speed, not the social kind haha.
Speed is there weapon along with good direction.
Without speed you can’t win the race, chasing kicks backing up in support, making breaks and not being run down....that’s were they win it every week.
We need speed, it doesn’t matter if there well known or green as Gumby we just need some pace in our back line to give us a leg up.

Spot on.

The 6 again rule has made speed even more important - especially if you have a couple of cluey playmakers and a forward that can offload.

The best way to play at the moment seems be to roll it up, the middle, get an offload, get a six again then go wide at speed for a try

2005 Tigers would’ve killed it with how the games currently played. Big men had skills we loved throwing the ball around and Benji would’ve killed opposition defence lines

just a shame its 2020

#getover2005

Everyone gonna be talking a about the 2021 tigers next year

yeah in the lament thread lol

 

[Wombat]

Is there a reason Albert Hopoate is off contract next year? Is he just not that good? I thought there were big wraps on him coming through...

 

[Geo]


 

[JC99]

Looking at the Roosters, panthers and storm.
I see a lot of speed, not the social kind haha.
Speed is there weapon along with good direction.
Without speed you can’t win the race, chasing kicks backing up in support, making breaks and not being run down....that’s were they win it every week.
We need speed, it doesn’t matter if there well known or green as Gumby we just need some pace in our back line to give us a leg up.

Spot on.

The 6 again rule has made speed even more important - especially if you have a couple of cluey playmakers and a forward that can offload.

The best way to play at the moment seems be to roll it up, the middle, get an offload, get a six again then go wide at speed for a try

2005 Tigers would’ve killed it with how the games currently played. Big men had skills we loved throwing the ball around and Benji would’ve killed opposition defence lines

just a shame its 2020

#getover2005

Sorry I’ll erase all memory of 2005 and never talk about it again.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

 

[ElleryHanley]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

That is a fairly brutal list....actually, it is very brutal.

 

[happy_tiger]

Looking at the Roosters, panthers and storm.
I see a lot of speed, not the social kind haha.
Speed is there weapon along with good direction.
Without speed you can’t win the race, chasing kicks backing up in support, making breaks and not being run down....that’s were they win it every week.
We need speed, it doesn’t matter if there well known or green as Gumby we just need some pace in our back line to give us a leg up.

Spot on.

The 6 again rule has made speed even more important - especially if you have a couple of cluey playmakers and a forward that can offload.

The best way to play at the moment seems be to roll it up, the middle, get an offload, get a six again then go wide at speed for a try

2005 Tigers would’ve killed it with how the games currently played. Big men had skills we loved throwing the ball around and Benji would’ve killed opposition defence lines

just a shame its 2020

#getover2005

Sorry I’ll erase all memory of 2005 and never talk about it again.

Now you just need to convince the rest of the Forum who can't face forwards

 

[Geo]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

That is a fairly brutal list....actually, it is very brutal.

Brenko Lee could well be a Premiership winner..

 

[happy_tiger]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

That is a fairly brutal list....actually, it is very brutal.

Brenko Lee could well be a Premiership winner..

Doesn't mean a great deal ...getting carried by 16 others

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You can scratch Tolman from that side when we announce his signing tomorrow 😏

 

[ElleryHanley]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

That is a fairly brutal list....actually, it is very brutal.

Brenko Lee could well be a Premiership winner..

He is a classic ""geez he excelled under Bellamy...why is he struggling in our state cup team" type of signing for any club though.

 

[ElleryHanley]

You can scratch Tolman from that side when we announce his signing tomorrow 😏

Joking I hope?!

 

[Geo]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

That is a fairly brutal list....actually, it is very brutal.

Brenko Lee could well be a Premiership winner..

Doesn't mean a great deal ...getting carried by 16 others

Scored a TRY through the guts of your Slimers

 

[JC99]

Albert Hopoate was meant to be one of the hottest prospects around right?

His dad full sledged manly on Instagram for never playing him saying he hates the club then a week later he got a debut and was average 😂

John Hopoate is probably the main deterrent for clubs wanting to sign Albert lol

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Albert Hopoate was meant to be one of the hottest prospects around right?

His dad full sledged manly on Instagram for never playing him saying he hates the club then a week later he got a debut and was average 😂

John Hopoate is probably the main deterrent for clubs wanting to sign Albert lol

What is it with ex players feeling though their sons are entitled first graders. Hoppa, Sailor, even Siro when his sons were here.

 

[Sabre]

Mason Lino could excell with a consistent starting spot.

 

[Cairnstigers]

If we want a fullback than I would enter the race to get Suaalii’s signature.
This kid is special talent. You just need to look what benefit Knights got from identifying Kalyn Ponga early.


He is a Souths kid....

And the Wallabies...and Roosters want him...

The hottest prospect in either code....

Honestly, we would be zero chance of his manager even taking a call. Don't want to sound negative....but there is no way. We could offer double and still not get a meeting.

Preposterous. Money talks and he'd be a mug not to engage all legitimate parties.

What a stupid stupid comment you've made at the end there. Sorry, just stupid comments that players wouldn't engage Tigers at any cost.


We have signed NO current NSW or Kangaroo players ever in their prime. None. When was the last time any of us read "Current Kangaroo joins Wests Tigers".

Why? If money talks, we would have landed someone by now. Reality is most see us a bad option. When we land two current Kangaroos you can raise my comments again...I hope it is soon.

Not being negative...I just don't think players see us like they see other clubs. Even Canterbury, no matter how low, have always been able to sign rep players.

We signed an Origin player just 2 years ago - Moses Mbye. He played 3 Origins half a season after joining us. James Tamou is both an Origin and Kangaroo rep. Benji Marshall was NZ captain and played rep football after we signed him for a second time. Adam Blair was NZ rep and Gareth Ellis was a guaranteed England rep. Blah blah.

But if you want to be technical and say only "current" Australian rep players, being pedantic and excluding all Pacifica players and Kiwis, well if JAC signs then you have it.

Because I'll give you an interesting stat: of the 34 players that contested Origin III in 2019, 53% (18/34) have only ever played for one first grade club. Of the remaining 16 players, 10 of those (62.5%) have only ever played for 2 teams. And of those 10, 50% were not rep players when they were signed up by their second club.

From that sample it is clear that there is very little trading done in AUSTRALIAN rep-level players, and if it does occur, it's very common to be a single trade, i.e. moving to one club.

"When we land two current Kangaroos you can raise my comments again". You must be high to think teams go around signing on 2 current Kangaroos. Not even Roosters are doing that - future Kangaroos perhaps, but not multiple current ones.

Anyway you were talking about Suaalii who has done diddly squat in rugby league and my post was specifically in reference to that.

You are being negative, you are assuming to understand how players view Tigers, and I assume you haven't spoken to a single player about the topic (but please enlighten us if you have). We land lots of players all the time and many of them have rep experience. The issue for Tigers is not landing big-name players, the issue is getting maximum consistent performance out of a balanced side.

2 cases in point: Newcastle landed several "big name" players recently. Ponga was just a kid and a calculated risk, so he technically does not count as a "current rep player". Mitchell Pearce was not selected for Origin the year he signed for Newcastle. Klemmer was in Origin. Tim Glasby played Origin too though nobody trumpets that much.

Good for Newcastle, landing these "big fish", sum total output was to finish 11th in both 2018-2019, then make the finals and bomb out first go 2020. That is not a rousing case study the "signing of rep players" to be a cornerstone of your roster strategy.

Titans 2021 will also be a real test given the big-name talent they've landed - we can judge that in a year. However, Gold Coast already have some history of signing rep-level players and it has not resulted in any consistent success. In fact lots of those rep signings turned out rather poorly (here is a list, not all were poor): Jai Arrow, Dan Sargison, Tyrone Peachey, Shannon Boyd, Kallum Watkins, Jarrod Wallace, Koni Jurrell, Chris McQueen, Agnatius Paasi, David Shillington.

I received some intel from a player going back to the Jason Taylor days. The bloke is not a Tiger anymore,
But his dad is a legend of the club. His complaints were along the lines of, we’re paying for our own accommodation, the club offered us rooms in this dump down the road. Our pay sometimes doesn’t go in on time and our gym is a joke. If he’s talking to some random in a pub you can bet the other NRL players know those stories. It takes time to shake that sort of reputation; even if the club is on the improve.

Sour grapes that they were let go
I believe the player you talk of went to a club who had more issues with payments to players and the coach had to take his own chairs into work
That was what I read anyway

We all here and read information
How much is true and how much is exaggerated

What I do know is that posting stories like this will not benefit our club

 

[Cairnstigers]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

yeah
And we had the captain of Plodderdom

 

[TieDye]


Thats a team heading towards plodderdom

yeah
And we had the captain of Plodderdom

Aaron Ploods.