Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Cairnstigers]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

Carbon copy? 69 tackle breaks compared to 118. No comparison.
One is in his prime, the other 2 or 3 years past his best.

The extra 14 missed tackles by Nofoluma who had 2 less games, let in how many tries ?
How many games did those missed tackles cost us
You can just look at stats
You have to look at the end result of those stats
Its the same with Tackle breaks
How many of those breaks lead directly to try's
I would be more annoyed than disappointed if Nofoluma left
Is he forgetting how many Very Very average years he has had
One good year and what
Now he wants to cash in
I doubt Nofo has a year as good as he just did
Unless he can fix his defence and catch balls from a kick
Which I doubt

 

[crazycat]

It’s as if people don’t want to have a better team next year unless WT sign everyone’s pin up boy.

Mansour improves our 2021 team, and if he helps get us higher up on the ladder it improves our chances to become a more desirable destination.

Even better if it gets us Laurie. I’ll back Hartigan on this because he’s shown he doesn’t

What dont I get here. If we release Cap pressure for Penrith they will release a Player earlier?

Ok sure, we can ask for Daine's early release if we take Mansour. But Why? Why would they do that if they are loosing 2x backs at once?
Surely both Daine and Josh are lining up for the Wing spot at Panthers. I dont get us pinching one winger leading Penrith to release early the other winger/Back!

 

[tony soprano]

It’s as if people don’t want to have a better team next year unless WT sign everyone’s pin up boy.

Mansour improves our 2021 team, and if he helps get us higher up on the ladder it improves our chances to become a more desirable destination.

Even better if it gets us Laurie. I’ll back Hartigan on this because he’s shown he doesn’t


What dont I get here. If we release Cap pressure for Penrith they will release a Player earlier?

Ok sure, we can ask for Daine's early release if we take Mansour. But Why? Why would they do that if they are loosing 2x backs at once?
Surely both Daine and Josh are lining up for the Wing spot at Panthers. I dont get us pinching one winger leading Penrith to release early the other winger/Back!

Mansour only contracted for one more year re cap pressure who are they trying to keep who is off contract next year?

 

[Harvey]

Need to think outside the box if we take Mansour. With his hard running, good lines and average defence, he could be converted to a 2nd rower like Garner.

He could be the next Schubert, Ribot, Oates

 

[JC99]

I've said it before.
If mansour is blocking your path to first grade then you're not ready for first grade.
Madge has shown he doesn't care about reputations.

Exactly right. Tigers have for a long time had insufficient depth to put pressure on the incumbents. Madge and Co have made a point of recruiting depth across the roster, so there is both competition and backup for injury.

Madge has shown willingness to drop any player any reputation.

So I don't understand, if someone thinks Mansour is "no good", why he would be an obstacle for "good" juniors. You might even ask if Mansour is reasonable value to both add experience and competition to the roster. And it's this value proposition question that has caused the drawn-out process of determining Mansour's future.

What I do know for a fact is that the club rates Daine Laurie very highly and were very pleased that he agreed to sign on. The question of an early trade including Mansour has been on the table for quite some time.

Why not give Madge a late Christmas gift and let him start working with Laurie now, rather than have the kid bouncing around reserve grade for another year. The Harry Grant trade showed that it's in the contract club's best interests to let an up-and-coming player play grade as soon as they are ready rather than keep kicking around behind prominent incumbents.

At worst we gain Mansour, who is decent without being a bad footballer. And maybe even then it puts pressure on Nofo to sign for a decent amount, or good luck to him if he chooses to leave.

More to do with the fact we’ve already got one young guy missing out most likely, now we will have two with Mansour getting first crack at wing. Could create a situation where we lose a young guy - then Mansour is retiring a year later, and Mansour isn’t good enough a player to warrant that. If Laurie comes too I can deal with it

Who said Mansour gets 1st shot at wing
Wouldn't it depend on training and trials

He’s not coming to play reserve grade otherwise he’d stay at Penrith

 

[philgood]

Trent Barrett has made enquiries about getting Paul Momorovski to Bulldogs for 2021. I have no idea if Tigers are entertaining the idea but Barrett definitely wants him for next year. My source is high up in Bulldogs.

 

[weststigerman]

It’s as if people don’t want to have a better team next year unless WT sign everyone’s pin up boy.

Mansour improves our 2021 team, and if he helps get us higher up on the ladder it improves our chances to become a more desirable destination.

Even better if it gets us Laurie. I’ll back Hartigan on this because he’s shown he doesn’t


What dont I get here. If we release Cap pressure for Penrith they will release a Player earlier?

Ok sure, we can ask for Daine's early release if we take Mansour. But Why? Why would they do that if they are loosing 2x backs at once?
Surely both Daine and Josh are lining up for the Wing spot at Panthers. I dont get us pinching one winger leading Penrith to release early the other winger/Back!

They will find a home for Mansour regardless if we play ball or not.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and Doueihi steer the side around the park.

I’m still taking Simpkin over Liddle. How many chances are we going to give Liddle? I reckon this is his last chance, one more injury and it’s all over for him imo. Simpkin will be knocking on the door for a starting spot. Just my two cents

Maybe Simpkin will have as many injuries as Liddle has had - once he starts playing with the big boys.

Hopefully not

I'm amazed at comments that the kids are not ready for ist gde.They have gone through the development sytem to prepare them.They are 19yrs old and most weigh around 90kg.Johnt Raper ,12and a half stone,Gasnier went from reserve gde into a test jumper at 19.Brad FIttler and heaps more.They are bigger fitter and faster then previous players.If you don't give them a chance we will lose them.Why do you think we got Laurie ?

Well ..... I’m sure the coaching group will have the right answer as to who is ready and not not.
And if we sign Cameron McInnes , Smith, Josh Mansour or anyone else than it will be for very good reason.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and Doueihi steer the side around the park.

I’m still taking Simpkin over Liddle. How many chances are we going to give Liddle? I reckon this is his last chance, one more injury and it’s all over for him imo. Simpkin will be knocking on the door for a starting spot. Just my two cents

Maybe Simpkin will have as many injuries as Liddle has had - once he starts playing with the big boys.

Hopefully not

I'm amazed at comments that the kids are not ready for ist gde.They have gone through the development sytem to prepare them.They are 19yrs old and most weigh around 90kg.Johnt Raper ,12and a half stone,Gasnier went from reserve gde into a test jumper at 19.Brad FIttler and heaps more.They are bigger fitter and faster then previous players.If you don't give them a chance we will lose them.Why do you think we got Laurie ?

John raper , reg gasnier and even Brad Fittler either never did , or rarely played against the monsters of today’s game . Seriously we had an under sized pack this year that most guys were well above the 100kg mark . This year , we will have a pack with guys pushing 120 . It is to this point that a kid isn’t ready . Mentioning a fullback is different to a kid who will spend his whole career in the engine room. It’s not about them being ready next year , it’s about ruining them for thier whole career .
Trainers and staff are smarter in today’s game . Many realise that if they develop an elite player and make sure he has a long career , there’s a high chance they will as well .

 

[AdelaideTiger]

Need to think outside the box if we take Mansour. With his hard running, good lines and average defence, he could be converted to a 2nd rower like Garner.

He could be the next Schubert, Ribot, Oates

🎣

 

[avocadoontoast]

Trent Barrett has made enquiries about getting Paul Momorovski to Bulldogs for 2021. I have no idea if Tigers are entertaining the idea but Barrett definitely wants him for next year. My source is high up in Bulldogs.

I’d have no problems with that.

 

[Geo]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and Doueihi steer the side around the park.

I’m still taking Simpkin over Liddle. How many chances are we going to give Liddle? I reckon this is his last chance, one more injury and it’s all over for him imo. Simpkin will be knocking on the door for a starting spot. Just my two cents

Maybe Simpkin will have as many injuries as Liddle has had - once he starts playing with the big boys.

Hopefully not

I'm amazed at comments that the kids are not ready for ist gde.They have gone through the development sytem to prepare them.They are 19yrs old and most weigh around 90kg.Johnt Raper ,12and a half stone,Gasnier went from reserve gde into a test jumper at 19.Brad FIttler and heaps more.They are bigger fitter and faster then previous players.If you don't give them a chance we will lose them.Why do you think we got Laurie ?

John raper , reg gasnier and even Brad Fittler either never did , or rarely played against the monsters of today’s game . Seriously we had an under sized pack this year that most guys were well above the 100kg mark . This year , we will have a pack with guys pushing 120 . It is to this point that a kid isn’t ready . Mentioning a fullback is different to a kid who will spend his whole career in the engine room. It’s not about them being ready next year , it’s about ruining them for thier whole career .
Trainers and staff are smarter in today’s game . Many realise that if they develop an elite player and make sure he has a long career , there’s a high chance they will as well .

And just watch the smaller more mobile forwards come into the game with the further tweeking of the 6 again and re-start rules..

 

[Tiger_Steve]

I think 2021 will be a revealing year for us as long as COVID stays at bay. There are so many unknowns in regards to young players. I personally think it’s too early to entertain the idea of selling momirovski to bulldogs. But one year in we will know. Same with Simpkin, Liddle, AJ, Talau, Stefano, - and they’d be more Ive forgotten. What I’m saying is I think 2021 will reveal who has it and who hasn’t but at the moment we are sort of throwing darts blindly.

 

[compensate]

Trent Barrett has made enquiries about getting Paul Momorovski to Bulldogs for 2021. I have no idea if Tigers are entertaining the idea but Barrett definitely wants him for next year. My source is high up in Bulldogs.

I’m fine with that. Be nice to get JAC as compensation though 👀👀

 

[JC99]

Trent Barrett has made enquiries about getting Paul Momorovski to Bulldogs for 2021. I have no idea if Tigers are entertaining the idea but Barrett definitely wants him for next year. My source is high up in Bulldogs.

We’ve got a heap of centre and more coming through juniors. We’d be fine if we let him go.

 

[jadtiger]

Trent Barrett has made enquiries about getting Paul Momorovski to Bulldogs for 2021. I have no idea if Tigers are entertaining the idea but Barrett definitely wants him for next year. My source is high up in Bulldogs.

We’ve got a heap of centre and more coming through juniors. We’d be fine if we let him go.

I reckon Momo is a more reliable centre than BJ and JTJ and is far less likely to cost us games than either of the others

 

[mike]

I think 2021 will be a revealing year for us as long as COVID stays at bay. There are so many unknowns in regards to young players. I personally think it’s too early to entertain the idea of selling momirovski to bulldogs. But one year in we will know. Same with Simpkin, Liddle, AJ, Talau, Stefano, - and they’d be more Ive forgotten. What I’m saying is I think 2021 will reveal who has it and who hasn’t but at the moment we are sort of throwing darts blindly.

Covid19 will be here throughout 2021. It’s not going anywhere soon. Maybe late September/October 2021. Vaccinations won’t start until March and you won’t see the effect for six months. Maybe by GF time we’ll be rid of it.

 

[teddy23]

Trent Barrett has made enquiries about getting Paul Momorovski to Bulldogs for 2021. I have no idea if Tigers are entertaining the idea but Barrett definitely wants him for next year. My source is high up in Bulldogs.

We’ve got a heap of centre and more coming through juniors. We’d be fine if we let him go.



I reckon Momo is a more reliable centre than BJ and JTJ and is far less likely to cost us games than either of the others

Momo not in the same class as either of them

 

[Fade.To.Black]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

Carbon copy? 69 tackle breaks compared to 118. No comparison.
One is in his prime, the other 2 or 3 years past his best.

The extra 14 missed tackles by Nofoluma who had 2 less games, let in how many tries ?
How many games did those missed tackles cost us
You can just look at stats
You have to look at the end result of those stats
Its the same with Tackle breaks
How many of those breaks lead directly to try's
I would be more annoyed than disappointed if Nofoluma left
Is he forgetting how many Very Very average years he has had
One good year and what
Now he wants to cash in
I doubt Nofo has a year as good as he just did
Unless he can fix his defence and catch balls from a kick
Which I doubt

Mansour can't catch either.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

I think 2021 will be a revealing year for us as long as COVID stays at bay. There are so many unknowns in regards to young players. I personally think it’s too early to entertain the idea of selling momirovski to bulldogs. But one year in we will know. Same with Simpkin, Liddle, AJ, Talau, Stefano, - and they’d be more Ive forgotten. What I’m saying is I think 2021 will reveal who has it and who hasn’t but at the moment we are sort of throwing darts blindly.

Covid19 will be here throughout 2021. It’s not going anywhere soon. Maybe late September/October 2021. Vaccinations won’t start until March and you won’t see the effect for six months. Maybe by GF time we’ll be rid of it.

I suppose I meant COVID causing the cancellation of reserve grade. Really hope that doesn’t happen