Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BAGNF05]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

Working wonders ?

It actually is mate. We aren't running near the top in KOE and Jersey Flegg by chance.

Someone today said the reason the KOE team looks good is there comp is garbage ..

None of our players who step up are proving to be world beaters.

 

[Merlot]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

Working wonders ?

It actually is mate. We aren't running near the top in KOE and Jersey Flegg by chance.

Someone today said the reason the KOE team looks good is there comp is garbage ..

its 1 aganst 2 next week in koe

Should put things in perspective

we get a win this wknd,weekend[lol]

 

[Merlot]

Canberra wasn't it

 

[BAGNF05]

The tigers have the third equaly biggest pack in the comp.'
Many thought the game was moving towards smaller more mobile forwards. With the new crackdown on high tackles, this could change the scenario again. The donkeys big guys steamrolled the chickens last night.

Forum members thoughts ?

Our troubles start without the ball. Our defence has remained consistently appalling.

I thought our middle is OK, its the edge that is the problem?

Definitely the edges

Middle defence is poor but edges are close to the worst I’ve ever seen in NRL.

We need 2 hardcore back rowers .

2 new wingers who can jump and defend and have pace

2 centre’s who can hit hard with pace

And a decent hooker


And people want to blame the coach. Geez.

Show me one winger, centre, second rower or hooker he didn’t sign or re-sign?

And your point is?

It’s his team. If he doesn’t have the coaching ability to get them playing their best, he should walk.

You can only sign what is available at the time. A number of them won’t be here next year, simples.

I doubt he’ll be here next year anyway.

Who do you consider is an upgrade that’s available

Morris and Flanagan are the obvious ones imo but there’s a fair few coaches available that would be good choices

Would take a very close look at Ciraldo

Absolutely

Risky all coaches are great under panthers team. Ivan for example

Ivan’s a really good coach, we just hate him because he walked out on us.

You’re joking right.

Did you see the players he left us with that were all managed by his own manager.

Unethical coach.

They may have done well under him.

They would imo have done better under him than Madge

Packer Reynolds and Matalino hardly played for the Tigers
When they did they were never 100% fit
You have to have them on the field to be able to compare
Mbye has been a huge flop for the money he was on
One thing is for sure
Ivan can't recruit players
We saw what he did to us
The Penrith team was pretty much handed to him on a plater

I don’t think Pascoe was blameless I recall his words were “we are going to be active and aggressive in the transfer market” when we lost the big 3, wish he was passive and patient.

 

[BAGNF05]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

Agree and they also tried to get him in a player swap but Broncos didn't agree. Then the warriors swooped in with a long term deal and a 1st grade opportunity.. You cannot get them all.

Can we have one? Please sir ??

 

[bathursttiger1]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

do they use a dartboard?

I wouldn’t mind guessing they’re putting way too much influence on stats. The good teams sign guys based on character and propensity to work hard. Not many spreadsheets can capture those details.

We don't sign based on stats.

Maybe we should then, whatever we’re doing, change it.

The biggest issue is we are struggling to attract the elite senior talent, we are doing very well with the junior identification. The elite talent issue is very complex to address and I don't know if it is something that will change until we are playing better football.

If we’re going after the best junior talent we certainly missed on Burton, Walker, Walsh, Schuster, Suaalii etc. when our our young guns going to catch fire?

Add Saab and Lomax to that list.

 

[hsvjones]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

Agree and they also tried to get him in a player swap but Broncos didn't agree. Then the warriors swooped in with a long term deal and a 1st grade opportunity.. You cannot get them all.

Can we have one? Please sir ??

I think we already have some but just need some experienced top line players to help in developing them and the culture that is needed to win. If you put Simpkin, Stefo, Blore, Laurie for E.g. in a team that has top line players they would shine quicker then here with us. As a club we have had no salary cap money free so we did the smart thing and started building from the ground up and brought quite a few young stars (not all will turn into Diamonds) and we are at the stage now where the money is coming free and we can pick up the players we need. The next 6 months is massive for us and I for one will trust the process.

 

[BAGNF05]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

Agree and they also tried to get him in a player swap but Broncos didn't agree. Then the warriors swooped in with a long term deal and a 1st grade opportunity.. You cannot get them all.

Can we have one? Please sir ??

I think we already have some but just need some experienced top line players to help in developing them and the culture that is needed to win. If you put Simpkin, Stefo, Blore, Laurie for E.g. in a team that has top line players they would shine quicker then here with us. As a club we have had no salary cap money free so we did the smart thing and started building from the ground up and brought quite a few young stars (not all will turn into Diamonds) and we are at the stage now where the money is coming free and we can pick up the players we need. The next 6 months is massive for us and I for one will trust the process.

I sure hope you’re right.

Blore is yet to show me that he’s worth all the wind that gets blown up him on here.

 

[hsvjones]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

Agree and they also tried to get him in a player swap but Broncos didn't agree. Then the warriors swooped in with a long term deal and a 1st grade opportunity.. You cannot get them all.

Can we have one? Please sir ??

I think we already have some but just need some experienced top line players to help in developing them and the culture that is needed to win. If you put Simpkin, Stefo, Blore, Laurie for E.g. in a team that has top line players they would shine quicker then here with us. As a club we have had no salary cap money free so we did the smart thing and started building from the ground up and brought quite a few young stars (not all will turn into Diamonds) and we are at the stage now where the money is coming free and we can pick up the players we need. The next 6 months is massive for us and I for one will trust the process.

I sure hope you’re right.

Blore is yet to show me that he’s worth all the wind that gets blown up him on here.

If we are in this position or worse this time next year I will jump onto your side and want heads to roll.
But I do believe if we can somehow pick up 2 top line players we are a top 8 team. For us to do this we need to pay up unfortunately until we win games.

 

[BAGNF05]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

To run 14th? I get your point but it needs to end. Need to start signing winners to teach the kids who can play (supposedly)

The winners said no, these were signings with good upside that could have made a difference if they worked out. If not there was an easy out when we will be in a position to try again with the better targets. The Roberts signing in particular was a good risk to take.

Come on mate he’s copping about 4 grand a week to do nothing. We could have a young kid learning the ropes right now. It was always doomed.

Who Talau? Roberts is on close to minimum wage, we are about $750k under the cap, with 2 spots still vacant and all reserve grade players being eligible for firsts grade. His signing held no one back.

We should have been looking for a young speedster not a washed up hack.

Nothing stopped us from both.

18 year old kid who tore us shreds on Friday has changed clubs recently. Doubt we even knew his name.

Complete nonsense

Madge literally said they knew about him 2 years ago

I've also seen the talent identification system they use, there isn't a player they don't know about.

Agree and they also tried to get him in a player swap but Broncos didn't agree. Then the warriors swooped in with a long term deal and a 1st grade opportunity.. You cannot get them all.

Can we have one? Please sir ??

I think we already have some but just need some experienced top line players to help in developing them and the culture that is needed to win. If you put Simpkin, Stefo, Blore, Laurie for E.g. in a team that has top line players they would shine quicker then here with us. As a club we have had no salary cap money free so we did the smart thing and started building from the ground up and brought quite a few young stars (not all will turn into Diamonds) and we are at the stage now where the money is coming free and we can pick up the players we need. The next 6 months is massive for us and I for one will trust the process.

I sure hope you’re right.

Blore is yet to show me that he’s worth all the wind that gets blown up him on here.

If we are in this position or worse this time next year I will jump onto your side and want heads to roll.
But I do believe if we can somehow pick up 2 top line players we are a top 8 team. For us to do this we need to pay up unfortunately until we win games.

I kind of agree. Two world class second rowers to bolster our edges and a speedy-reliable outside back . I just have no faith that the club can manage it.

 

[yoyoyoyo]

My point in my last post (sorry about the spelling errors to some of you who took offence haha) is before anyone says we should buy this player or promote that player - think -- are these guys going to make us a top 8 or top 4 team.

The problem we have is no one wants to come here (supposedly) or we have to pay stupid overs for them... right?

But the good teams with the best coaches attract players for less than their market value (some times).

So a player like Munster (for example ) - say he is worth $900K per year.

He would probably stay at Melbourne for $800K (if he needed to)

We would have to pay him $1.2M (if we could get him)

So the difference in the cap between having a good coach (who attracts players- the Robinsons, Bennets, Bellamys ) is $400K for some players.

IF WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEORY ---

AND IF THE TIGERS ARE SUPPOSEDLY MAKING ALL THIS MONEY THANKS TO PASCOE.... "we're profitable blah blah" (the usual rhetoric from failing teams management)

Why the hell aren't we just offering Wayne Bennet or Bellamy $2M a season for two seasons?

The money that we would be paying overs for the coach would be saved on the roster as people would come here for market or less than what we currently have to offer them.

That would be the only way for us to get talent right now without stuffing up our cap for 4 years.

And before everyone says Waynes going to Brisbane or Bellamy is retiring - money talks and if its only for two years I'm sure $$ would persuade them.

Happy to see the knives on the forum come out and tear this down🙂

 

[BAGNF05]

My point in my last post (sorry about the spelling errors to some of you who took offence haha) is before anyone says we should buy this player or promote that player - think -- are these guys going to make us a top 8 or top 4 team.

The problem we have is no one wants to come here (supposedly) or we have to pay stupid overs for them... right?

But the good teams with the best coaches attract players for less than their market value (some times).

So a player like Munster (for example ) - say he is worth $900K per year.

He would probably stay at Melbourne for $800K (if he needed to)

We would have to pay him $1.2M (if we could get him)

So the difference in the cap between having a good coach (who attracts players- the Robinsons, Bennets, Bellamys, Cleary (yes I know relax)) is $400K for some players.

IF WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEORY ---

AND IF THE TIGERS ARE SUPPOSEDLY MAKING ALL THIS MONEY THANKS TO PASCOE.... "we're profitable blah blah" (the usual rhetoric from failing teams management)

Why the hell aren't we just offering Wayne Bennet or Bellamy $2M a season for two seasons?

The money that we would be paying overs for the coach would be saved on the roster as people would come here for market or less than what we currently have to offer them.

That would be the only way for us to get talent right now without stuffing up our cap for 4 years.

And before everyone says Waynes going to Brisbane or Bellamy is retiring - money talks and if its only for two years I'm sure $$ would persuade them.

Happy to see the knives on the forum come out and tear this down🙂

They have reputations to uphold and they’re too old to start a rebuild.

 

[gallagher]

My point in my last post (sorry about the spelling errors to some of you who took offence haha) is before anyone says we should buy this player or promote that player - think -- are these guys going to make us a top 8 or top 4 team.

The problem we have is no one wants to come here (supposedly) or we have to pay stupid overs for them... right?

But the good teams with the best coaches attract players for less than their market value (some times).

So a player like Munster (for example ) - say he is worth $900K per year.

He would probably stay at Melbourne for $800K (if he needed to)

We would have to pay him $1.2M (if we could get him)

So the difference in the cap between having a good coach (who attracts players- the Robinsons, Bennets, Bellamys ) is $400K for some players.

IF WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEORY ---

AND IF THE TIGERS ARE SUPPOSEDLY MAKING ALL THIS MONEY THANKS TO PASCOE.... "we're profitable blah blah" (the usual rhetoric from failing teams management)

Why the hell aren't we just offering Wayne Bennet or Bellamy $2M a season for two seasons?

The money that we would be paying overs for the coach would be saved on the roster as people would come here for market or less than what we currently have to offer them.

That would be the only way for us to get talent right now without stuffing up our cap for 4 years.

And before everyone says Waynes going to Brisbane or Bellamy is retiring - money talks and if its only for two years I'm sure $$ would persuade them.

Happy to see the knives on the forum come out and tear this down🙂

I like it. But we're not a big thinking club. We're battlers .

 

[tony soprano]

Bulldogs offered more money for Burton plus had the player coach connection, my concerns about Madge are his team selections and failure to improve the team in the areas that need it,

* Choosing Leilua and Roberts as starting centres over Momirovski who would of been the smarter choice

* Nofoaluma re-signing (4years) who has always had defensive issues

* Team selections and use of the bench often not making sense

* Releasing Thompson who in hindsight is a better winger than any other player here

Every player you mentioned is pretty ordinary though. Switch the names around and I reckon we're still at the same place.

None of the players are game changers, Joey and Roberts at least had the potential to be and that is why they were signed. As an attempt to get an ordinary squad into the finals.

These were shortcuts in recruitment much like the shortcuts we take on the field. These guys can’t hold down a club because they’re not mentally tough. Bellamy sends young players out to work on building sites to find out their character. We should have given BJ an Oporto ‘s apron.

I don't have a problem with either signing as they were short term signings for a specific purpose.

Madge and hartigan like Joey style player with a bit of X factor unfortunately Joey was a few years too late his body just getting too big for centre with his age

 

[yoyoyoyo]

@BAGNF05 its not a rebuild mate.... if we're say 2 superstars and a couple of decent players away ---- the line between bottom four and 5-8th is actually not that big....

in the age of the salary cap AND being a battler club like ours that has a stigma (no huge corporate support or benefactors involved, different home grounds -- you get the drift) THEN

COACH IS KING for us!

Sheensy was lucky because it was like lightning in a bottle - couple of freak juniors, some very astute purchasers, and one freak of a season (that couldnt be replicated) .... but if we are going to build a successful dynasty we need a superstar coach t being with...

If we have the money just pay the big bucks. We'll make it up in crowds, merch, members, sponsors, and salary cap roster management

 

[BAGNF05]

@BAGNF05 its not a rebuild mate.... if we're say 2 superstars and a couple of decent players away ---- the line between bottom four and 5-8th is actually not that big....

in the age of the salary cap AND being a battler club like ours that has a stigma (no huge corporate support or benefactors involved, different home grounds -- you get the drift) THEN

COACH IS KING for us!

Sheensy was lucky because it was like lightning in a bottle - couple of freak juniors, some very astute purchasers, and one freak of a season (that couldnt be replicated) .... but if we are going to build a successful dynasty we need a superstar coach t being with...

If we have the money just pay the big bucks. We'll make it up in crowds, merch, members, sponsors, and salary cap roster management

I agree mate, we aren’t far off 6th, problem is you just won’t get one of them, they’ve built their reputations up too high to associate with WT.

 

[yoyoyoyo]

@gallagher haha --- yes mate but I'm sick of being a bloody battler....

 

[gallagher]

@gallagher haha --- yes mate but I'm sick of being a bloody battler....

As am I. I honestly believe the people running the club like the battler tag though.

 

[Demps]

@gallagher haha --- yes mate but I'm sick of being a bloody battler....

Rather be a baller than a battler.

... like @Spartan117 and King @Kul

 

[the_third]

I agree with most of that. But, I reckon Thompson was the only player anyone wanted from our roster. He is a great player

Thompson's height is a big weakness on the wing that kept being exploited by opposition teams with tall wingers. As a fullback he is nowhere near the quality of Tedesco, Paps Turbo and some others.

He did not fit well with the rest of our spine. I still enjoy his running game even when he plays for the Titans.

we have a tendicy 2 recruit Tattoo [fantasy island] clones for the wing ,Tanalia Tuiaki was our last hope,another GF out the back door,when he went down with the ankle

he was my favourite winger/player by a mile. And Pat

such a shame about the real TT