Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[avocadoontoast]

Hartigan and Co obviously have a system in place which value players, hence preventing the mistakes of recent past.

HOWEVER, we're not the Roosters and our recruitment valuations need to be modified to reflect where we're at as a club. We're not a destination club.

So, instead of valuing a player as a proportion of the entire cap (EG 10mil), the Tigers need to quarantine a portion of our cap for marquee Signing(s) - say $1mil.

You've got no choice but to pay overs on a few players to turn the tide - and obviously the key is choosing the right player(s) to do so.

Point is, you can still afford to pay overs provided it's part of a concerted effort to manage the entire cap.

Cleary's contract management didn't work but neither is our current approach.

Of course you have a choice not to pay overs. The club has made that choice and I applaud them for it. That’s how you build a sustainable roster.

Sustainable but probably not competitive. We need to wait 5 years to develop our own or pay overs. No ones coming here for market rate if they have another option.

 

[Telltails]

Re paying overs / getting value for money etc etc...it all depends on whether you want quality or quantity.

Dogs went to 650 for JAC...

We dropped out as too expensive for a winger...

But...we paid 450 for Nofa and Talau would be on 300...

So, what do you actually want?

JAC for 650...or Nofa and Talau for 750.

Same with TPJ...do you want him for 750...or Tamou and Joe O for that.

Personally, I think we'd be a lot better team with JAC and TPJ.

We have a hell of a lot of lower tier players who won't win you games. If people want to call them 'value for money', so be it. But we are 3rd last as a result of buying 'value' rather than landing some class players.

I guess you’ll find out next year who ends up better off when the Dogs attempt to make the 8.

Unless they sort out their halves/hooker they will still be struggling. Throwing big money at TPJ wont solve where their problems are. TPJ plays in a team already with ordinary halves and how are they going?

 

[avocadoontoast]

Re paying overs / getting value for money etc etc...it all depends on whether you want quality or quantity.

Dogs went to 650 for JAC...

We dropped out as too expensive for a winger...

But...we paid 450 for Nofa and Talau would be on 300...

So, what do you actually want?

JAC for 650...or Nofa and Talau for 750.

Same with TPJ...do you want him for 750...or Tamou and Joe O for that.

Personally, I think we'd be a lot better team with JAC and TPJ.

We have a hell of a lot of lower tier players who won't win you games. If people want to call them 'value for money', so be it. But we are 3rd last as a result of buying 'value' rather than landing some class players.

I guess you’ll find out next year who ends up better off when the Dogs attempt to make the 8.

Well the Dogs have added JAC and Burton and we’ve added a couple of guys from super league. Their roster has improved. Not sure you can say the same for us.

 

[cochise]

So Readys mail is that Funicane has 3 clubs with offers for him but not sure if it is an actual contract.
Storm , Cows and Tigers...
Storm obviously lower $$$ but someone said he doesn't really want to go to NQ so you would have to think if we put a pretty good offer on the table we might have a chance. But don't want to leave this too long as we all know what happens then.

People on here are saying we have no interest at all in him but media keep talking about it ??

Finucane is still an option.

Lets hope so and I would not be concerned about 3 years as he will have that in him still. People need to remember he was named in the SOO squad just 2 weeks ago and if the team had lost the 1st game he may of got into the 17 for the 2nd... A club we need to be concerned about is Sharks with Fitz as assistant coach of NSW and into his ear but they also brought McGinness from Dragons to play Lock..

The issue is the $ and the length of contract

Do you know if we are close to the dollars or way off?? For me I would not mind 650k for 3 years but that might still be too low

I don't think the deal is anywhere near close to be done. There is a recruitment meeting at the club on Monday to consolidate where to next,

How long has been set aside for the meeting?

6 months lol

First Agenda item - what NRL player wants to play for Maguire?

The field should be narrowed quite a bit.

The 6 months is to find one lol


shouldn't the just boot him that was the case?

I was joking.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Re paying overs / getting value for money etc etc...it all depends on whether you want quality or quantity.

Dogs went to 650 for JAC...

We dropped out as too expensive for a winger...

But...we paid 450 for Nofa and Talau would be on 300...

So, what do you actually want?

JAC for 650...or Nofa and Talau for 750.

Same with TPJ...do you want him for 750...or Tamou and Joe O for that.

Personally, I think we'd be a lot better team with JAC and TPJ.

We have a hell of a lot of lower tier players who won't win you games. If people want to call them 'value for money', so be it. But we are 3rd last as a result of buying 'value' rather than landing some class players.

I guess you’ll find out next year who ends up better off when the Dogs attempt to make the 8.

Unless they sort out their halves/hooker they will still be struggling. Throwing big money at TPJ wont solve where their problems are. TPJ plays in a team already with ordinary halves and how are they going?

They’ll have Burton next year too, and he’s very good.

 

[Telltails]

Re paying overs / getting value for money etc etc...it all depends on whether you want quality or quantity.

Dogs went to 650 for JAC...

We dropped out as too expensive for a winger...

But...we paid 450 for Nofa and Talau would be on 300...

So, what do you actually want?

JAC for 650...or Nofa and Talau for 750.

Same with TPJ...do you want him for 750...or Tamou and Joe O for that.

Personally, I think we'd be a lot better team with JAC and TPJ.

We have a hell of a lot of lower tier players who won't win you games. If people want to call them 'value for money', so be it. But we are 3rd last as a result of buying 'value' rather than landing some class players.

I guess you’ll find out next year who ends up better off when the Dogs attempt to make the 8.

Unless they sort out their halves/hooker they will still be struggling. Throwing big money at TPJ wont solve where their problems are. TPJ plays in a team already with ordinary halves and how are they going?

They’ll have Burton next year too, and he’s very good.

He will need to be better than good.

 

[KingRobbie]

$ 600,000 for AD who had done sh--t all , and is nowhere near a top 5/8 or centre. Another Madge acute signing.

He’s been out best player for 18 months. What are you on?

YOUR DREAMING.

He’s literally our best player by a mile, don’t understand what game some people watch lol.

 

[mike]

Hartigan and Co obviously have a system in place which value players, hence preventing the mistakes of recent past.

HOWEVER, we're not the Roosters and our recruitment valuations need to be modified to reflect where we're at as a club. We're not a destination club.

So, instead of valuing a player as a proportion of the entire cap (EG 10mil), the Tigers need to quarantine a portion of our cap for marquee Signing(s) - say $1mil.

You've got no choice but to pay overs on a few players to turn the tide - and obviously the key is choosing the right player(s) to do so.

Point is, you can still afford to pay overs provided it's part of a concerted effort to manage the entire cap.

Cleary's contract management didn't work but neither is our current approach.

Of course you have a choice not to pay overs. The club has made that choice and I applaud them for it. That’s how you build a sustainable roster.

Sustainable but probably not competitive. We need to wait 5 years to develop our own or pay overs. No ones coming here for market rate if they have another option.

No, sustainable and being competitive. Paying overs is what had put us in the current mess we are in. No more. We need to be systematically bringing on the players, that means players we want at the price we want.

 

[sleeve]

$ 600,000 for AD who had done sh--t all , and is nowhere near a top 5/8 or centre. Another Madge acute signing.

He’s been out best player for 18 months. What are you on?

YOUR DREAMING.

Who’s been better?

Playing FB he was bad, at 5/8 showed some class , but not great, at centre again showed glimpses of class but bad defence. He is a big hearted footballer who was bought as a winger, @ $500,000 thats what i mean that your dreaming.
As much as you think he is the ants pants, he would not make another 1st gde side, and for that money you are looking at the top of the range footballer,which at the moment he is not. Though i hope he gets there.

 

[Needaname]

Hartigan and Co obviously have a system in place which value players, hence preventing the mistakes of recent past.

HOWEVER, we're not the Roosters and our recruitment valuations need to be modified to reflect where we're at as a club. We're not a destination club.

So, instead of valuing a player as a proportion of the entire cap (EG 10mil), the Tigers need to quarantine a portion of our cap for marquee Signing(s) - say $1mil.

You've got no choice but to pay overs on a few players to turn the tide - and obviously the key is choosing the right player(s) to do so.

Point is, you can still afford to pay overs provided it's part of a concerted effort to manage the entire cap.

Cleary's contract management didn't work but neither is our current approach.

Of course you have a choice not to pay overs. The club has made that choice and I applaud them for it. That’s how you build a sustainable roster.

Sustainable but probably not competitive. We need to wait 5 years to develop our own or pay overs. No ones coming here for market rate if they have another option.

No, sustainable and being competitive. Paying overs is what had put us in the current mess we are in. No more. We need to be systematically bringing on the players, that means players we want at the price we want.

You still need to land one Mike. The Sea Eagles have rebuilt their roster on this premise.
They over paid Tapau you could say Cherry Evans initially but in adding Tom and Jake they’ve got attractive players that others are willing to join to be part of and for less than or market value.
We don’t have that attraction. We will be waiting 3-4 years for our young core to become attractive.

 

[compensate]

I remember someone here telling me we don't need Garrick cause Doueihi is a better goal kicker than him...


Goal kicking should be the least of our worries. In order to kick goals you have to score points

 

[KingRobbie]

$ 600,000 for AD who had done sh--t all , and is nowhere near a top 5/8 or centre. Another Madge acute signing.

He’s been out best player for 18 months. What are you on?

YOUR DREAMING.

Who’s been better?

Playing FB he was bad, at 5/8 showed some class , but not great, at centre again showed glimpses of class but bad defence. He is a big hearted footballer who was bought as a winger, @ $500,000 thats what i mean that your dreaming.
As much as you think he is the ants pants, he would not make another 1st gde side, and for that money you are looking at the top of the range footballer,which at the moment he is not. Though i hope he gets there.

Bought as a winger??? Wouldn’t make another first grade side??? What a dribbler.

 

[Aubanon]

Hartigan and Co obviously have a system in place which value players, hence preventing the mistakes of recent past.

HOWEVER, we're not the Roosters and our recruitment valuation need to be modified to reflect where we're at as a club. We're not a destination club.

So, instead of valuing a player as a proportion of the entire cap (EG 10mil), the Tigers need to quarantine a portion of our cap for marquee Signing(s) - say $1mil.

You've got no choice but to pay overs on a few players to turn the tide - and obviously the key is choosing the right player(s) to do so.

Point is, you can still afford to pay overs provided it's part of a concerted effort to manage the cap.

Cleary's contract management didn't work but neither is our current approach.

That is pretty much the plan atm, by paying the right value for the majority of players, getting a couple on contracts below their value, Laurie is on a deal well below the value he adds to the team. It allows you to go into the market place and pay more for the right marquee player. We haven't got the second part over the line at this point.

I don't know if it is though. Club seems to talk about not paying overs etc - that's just wishful thinking.

Time will tell.

 

[sleeve]

$ 600,000 for AD who had done sh--t all , and is nowhere near a top 5/8 or centre. Another Madge acute signing.

He’s been out best player for 18 months. What are you on?

YOUR DREAMING.

Who’s been better?

Playing FB he was bad, at 5/8 showed some class , but not great, at centre again showed glimpses of class but bad defence. He is a big hearted footballer who was bought as a winger, @ $500,000 thats what i mean that your dreaming.
As much as you think he is the ants pants, he would not make another 1st gde side, and for that money you are looking at the top of the range footballer,which at the moment he is not. Though i hope he gets there.

Bought as a winger??? Wouldn’t make another first grade side??? What a dribbler.

Name one?

 

[Aubanon]

Hartigan and Co obviously have a system in place which value players, hence preventing the mistakes of recent past.

HOWEVER, we're not the Roosters and our recruitment valuations need to be modified to reflect where we're at as a club. We're not a destination club.

So, instead of valuing a player as a proportion of the entire cap (EG 10mil), the Tigers need to quarantine a portion of our cap for marquee Signing(s) - say $1mil.

You've got no choice but to pay overs on a few players to turn the tide - and obviously the key is choosing the right player(s) to do so.

Point is, you can still afford to pay overs provided it's part of a concerted effort to manage the entire cap.

Cleary's contract management didn't work but neither is our current approach.

Of course you have a choice not to pay overs. The club has made that choice and I applaud them for it. That’s how you build a sustainable roster.

Sustainable but probably not competitive. We need to wait 5 years to develop our own or pay overs. No ones coming here for market rate if they have another option.

No, sustainable and being competitive. Paying overs is what had put us in the current mess we are in. No more. We need to be systematically bringing on the players, that means players we want at the price we want.

Paying overs for the wrong player is what got us into the mess.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

$ 600,000 for AD who had done sh--t all , and is nowhere near a top 5/8 or centre. Another Madge acute signing.

He’s been out best player for 18 months. What are you on?

YOUR DREAMING.

He’s literally our best player by a mile, don’t understand what game some people watch lol.

Doueihi is a very good player but with significant defensive deficiencies, Brooks is our best player.

And both are Tigers' juniors which augers well for the future.

 

[cochise]

Hartigan and Co obviously have a system in place which value players, hence preventing the mistakes of recent past.

HOWEVER, we're not the Roosters and our recruitment valuation need to be modified to reflect where we're at as a club. We're not a destination club.

So, instead of valuing a player as a proportion of the entire cap (EG 10mil), the Tigers need to quarantine a portion of our cap for marquee Signing(s) - say $1mil.

You've got no choice but to pay overs on a few players to turn the tide - and obviously the key is choosing the right player(s) to do so.

Point is, you can still afford to pay overs provided it's part of a concerted effort to manage the cap.

Cleary's contract management didn't work but neither is our current approach.

That is pretty much the plan atm, by paying the right value for the majority of players, getting a couple on contracts below their value, Laurie is on a deal well below the value he adds to the team. It allows you to go into the market place and pay more for the right marquee player. We haven't got the second part over the line at this point.

I don't know if it is though. Club seems to talk about not paying overs etc - that's just wishful thinking.

Time will tell.

Conversations I have had have discussed the willingness to pay overs on the right player.

 

[JC99]

Funnily enough, Adam Doueihi has a higher goal kicking percentage (79.6%) than Reuben Garrick (75.4%) this season.

 

[avocadoontoast]

$ 600,000 for AD who had done sh--t all , and is nowhere near a top 5/8 or centre. Another Madge acute signing.

He’s been out best player for 18 months. What are you on?

YOUR DREAMING.

Who’s been better?

Playing FB he was bad, at 5/8 showed some class , but not great, at centre again showed glimpses of class but bad defence. He is a big hearted footballer who was bought as a winger, @ $500,000 thats what i mean that your dreaming.
As much as you think he is the ants pants, he would not make another 1st gde side, and for that money you are looking at the top of the range footballer,which at the moment he is not. Though i hope he gets there.

There’s a lot here that isn’t correct

 

[sleeve]

$ 600,000 for AD who had done sh--t all , and is nowhere near a top 5/8 or centre. Another Madge acute signing.

He’s been out best player for 18 months. What are you on?

YOUR DREAMING.

Who’s been better?

Playing FB he was bad, at 5/8 showed some class , but not great, at centre again showed glimpses of class but bad defence. He is a big hearted footballer who was bought as a winger, @ $500,000 thats what i mean that your dreaming.
As much as you think he is the ants pants, he would not make another 1st gde side, and for that money you are looking at the top of the range footballer,which at the moment he is not. Though i hope he gets there.

There’s a lot here that isn’t correct

OK tell me what 5/8 or centre in the comp is AD better then?
And thats without the 1/2 mil price tag,that only the best get.