Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Mighty_Tiger]

Funny place this forum.

We have a forward who has Rep quality and is 26yrs old, made the most tackle breaks (50) & meters per game (124) of his career whilst increasing his tackle count by 30% (900+) on any other season he has played for a team who have often given up but then go meh we don’t need him.

We are rebuilding, youth needs experienced heads around them - the right ones.

Joe has shown this year he is the right one. The guy has had a dig all year leading the way when others just gave up. He didn’t take the easy option out and has often had zero support.

We won’t find better quality /age-experience than Joe to compliment Api/Papa next year.

From the sounds of it, his asking price won’t break the bank and is fair.

But hey we have Twal and Seyfarth so all good right & some wonder why we keep losing….

 

[boonboon]

The issue is with Hastings at lock then Joffa is a bench forward at full strength. He has always been a bit small for prop and not quite agile or skilled enough for backrow. Lock is his best position but he doesent have the ball playing for the modern day. His effort though is great so want to keep him brcause he is better then others we have but if we want to be a top team then he is a bench prop

 

[Conbat07]

Funny place this forum.

We have a forward who has Rep quality and is 26yrs old, made the most tackle breaks (50) & meters per game (124) of his career whilst increasing his tackle count by 30% (900+) on any other season he has played for a team who have often given up but then go meh we don’t need him.

We are rebuilding, youth needs experienced heads around them - the right ones.

Joe has shown this year he is the right one. The guy has had a dig all year leading the way when others just gave up. He didn’t take the easy option out and has often had zero support.

We won’t find better quality /age-experience than Joe to compliment Api/Papa next year.

From the sounds of it, his asking price won’t break the bank and is fair.

But hey we have Twal and Seyfarth so all good right & some wonder why we keep losing….

How was Joes year last year? Average, he made origin because QLD were short and wasn’t up to it. Averaging 124 meters per game isn’t elite if he doesn’t want to stay so be it same with Douhei. I want players who want to be at the club and play for the badge and fans. Like someone previously he would have signed if he wasn’t waiting for something better from a “better” club

 

[earl]

Joffa is one of the best in our pack.

He has been our best player this season. He is consistently on the park and consistently plays well.

His stats are way better than Finucane's.

 

[Cobarcats]

Our pack next season is suddenly shaping up to be a totally different and a stronger one.
If the stars align the forwards could look something like this...

Jackson Hastings (C) Kitione Kautoga
Jaydn Su'A
Joe Ofahengaue
Api Koroisau
Isiah Papali'i
Fonua Pole
Stefano Utoikamanu Alex Twal
We need a second hooker but we have Fa'amanu Brown, Rua Ngatikaura, Jake Simpkin etc to fight for that spot. 🤔
I still have hope in signing a big fish 🤞
Now for the backs...

 

[earl]

From the sounds of it, his asking price won’t break the bank and is fair.

I agree with you in general but I think his asking price reflects his form. It's a big contract. He was on overs at the Broncos and they subsidized his contract. He now wants a small increase but we aren't getting any extra from the Broncos.

He isn't going to get massive overs like Finucane or TPJ but he isn't cheap.

 

[earl]

Averaging 124 meters per game isn’t elite if he doesn’t want to stay so be it same with Douhei.

He isn't elite. That is the issue. I think he wants to stay though. It's just that he wants maximum market value.

One of our big problems with retention is players always wanting the maximum contract they can get. The rorters get players staying there for significantly less on the cap.

Doueihi is a different issue. He is already paid overs and wants to test his value without giving us great service.

Let's wait and see what happens.

We really need our pathways to provide us with quality players because it appears we need to let players go plus it's really hard to recruit players.

 

[1eyedmel]

Looks like Manly are a very unhappy bunch getting flogged by Ricky yesterday,there might be a few whom want out. Should start raiding there nest to feather ours.

 

[Telltails]

We can't recruit which is also impacting our ability to retain. We may have to pay overs for some of our "better" players to try and build a competitive squad. There will always be players in teams that fans will agree to disagree on their value. The reality of our situation is paying overs for players is the the only draw card we have got.

 

[TigersFan101]

Just read Jayden Sua wants out of his dragons contract

 

[Mossman]

Our pack next season is suddenly shaping up to be a totally different and a stronger one.
If the stars align the forwards could look something like this...

Jackson Hastings (C) Kitione Kautoga
Jaydn Su'A
Joe Ofahengaue
Api Koroisau
Isiah Papali'i
Fonua Pole
Stefano Utoikamanu Alex Twal
We need a second hooker but we have Fa'amanu Brown, Rua Ngatikaura, Jake Simpkin etc to fight for that spot. 🤔
I still have hope in signing a big fish 🤞
Now for the backs...

Where’s this Sua talk come from?
Isn’t he still got a couple of year left at drag queens?

 

[trentrunciman]

Watching the 7s atm. We should sign some of these Kenyan boys

 

[Long Term Fan]

For WT to be taken seriously we need to retain players like Offa otherwise it sends a clear message to the playing group to have a break out season at WT then go elsewhere to be in with a chance of a premiership.

He is worth the upgraded money.

This could be a real "line in the sand" moment for WT to retain a player Storm and Dolphins are after.

Sorry I might have missed something but where does the Jaydn Su'A talk come from. Nothing mentioned by "The Pom" and he appears to be in the know.

 

[Cobarcats]

Where’s this Sua talk come from?
Isn’t he still got a couple of year left at drag queens?

My man's info. He wants out of the dragons.
Moss I did say if the stars align. I don't have Twitter, have a look 👍

 

[earl]

For WT to be taken seriously we need to retain players like Offa otherwise it sends a clear message to the playing group to have a break out season at WT then go elsewhere to be in with a chance of a premiership.

If we pay overs what message does that send ? We've been through this situation previously. Luc is a classic example. Aoiai and Matterson are other examples. Nofo fits the bill as well.

The message from the players currently is pay the maximum salary or we go.

How do we stop that message and retain players ?

Are Melbourne taken seriously ? They lose players all the time.

 

[Cobarcats]

If we pay overs what message does that send ? We've been through this situation previously. Luc is a classic example. Aoiai and Matterson are other examples. Nofo fits the bill as well.

The message from the players currently is pay the maximum salary or we go.

How do we stop that message and retain players ?

Are Melbourne taken seriously ? They lose players all the time.

Keep our salary cap healthy!

 

[earl]

Keep our salary cap healthy!

It's a balancing act isn't it. I really hope we keep Joe O and I think he wants to stay but if we keep him on top dollar that limits our ability to recruit players or retain juniors.

 

[Telltails]

If we pay overs what message does that send ? We've been through this situation previously. Luc is a classic example. Aoiai and Matterson are other examples. Nofo fits the bill as well.

The message from the players currently is pay the maximum salary or we go.

How do we stop that message and retain players ?

Are Melbourne taken seriously ? They lose players all the time.

But look at the ones they keep.

 

[earl]

But look at the ones they keep.

Exactly. They lose quality though. Tino is quality. They've lost JAC and Koro. Tohu Harris is a real good player. Finucane is decent.

Koro is as big a loss for us than the Tedesco. Did anyone see his tackle yesterday ? He is a freak of a player.

 

[SeanT]

Our pack next season is suddenly shaping up to be a totally different and a stronger one.
If the stars align the forwards could look something like this...

Jackson Hastings (C) Kitione Kautoga
Jaydn Su'A
Joe Ofahengaue
Api Koroisau
Isiah Papali'i
Fonua Pole
Stefano Utoikamanu Alex Twal
We need a second hooker but we have Fa'amanu Brown, Rua Ngatikaura, Jake Simpkin etc to fight for that spot. 🤔
I still have hope in signing a big fish 🤞
Now for the backs...

Only one prop post contact metres gainer in there. Stefano. Still missing two hard forwards. Happy with Offa..Twals defence is amazing but it's time he changes his offence. Offloads, run lower to ground,. Quicker play the balls etc.

Our forward pack still would be bottom 8.