Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[The Chad]

Next season, for all intent & purpose, won't be judged by the board as a success or failure imo.

Sheens is in place to install culture & systems while getting Benji up to speed. The results, while I'm sure EVERYONE involved will want them to be good, are probably the secondary goal to the long term success.

I'm not talking with any authority, but I imagine just being more competitive, improvement in individual performance & a clear plan for player progression will be considered a success, more than getting a 50% win ratio etc.

 

[earl]

It’s most probably Brooks 🤣

It probably is. He may have even signed a contract that means he will be on reasonable dollars for the next 3 seasons whereas he would have earned much more coin over the next 3 years if the Tigers had let him go to Newcastle.

 

[2041]

Which require a coach to release him, Which that coach won't do - And doesn't change what I said.

Also a totally different situation this time around with a 23 year old kid told he wasn't required by the club and had his contract offer pulled - to a 28 year old rep player signing with another club...

You think?

Mate I was joking. I even put /s at the end so no-one would miss it.

 

[earl]

Next season, for all intent & purpose, won't be judged by the board as a success or failure imo.

Sheens has already created the situation where his tenure won't matter in relation to him keeping his job assuming something drastic doesn't occur.

The problem is I bet we've blown a big chunk of our cap and we don't have any gun players in our outside backs or spine excluding Api. We are going to need to recruit or develop some players to compete for the comp which we should be aiming for.

It's going to be an interesting couple of years. I can't wait for the season to start.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Where exactly has our recruitment improved?
We have signed Klemmer and Staines, both unwanted at their respective clubs.

Staines walks straight into our side. Will probably be our quickest player (not knowing actual speeds). He’s an improvement.

If we sign woods I will agree with you.

 

[2041]

we sacked a perfectly good coach

At the very, very least you have to acknowledge it's possible Maguire wasn't a "perfectly good" coach. Identifying what was wrong with the Tigers last year doesn't have to be an either or - it's possible that other things were bad AND Maguire wasn't any use. I guess time will tell: if you're right I imagine he'll be snapped up by another club in due course and go on to be very successful. I have my doubts but I've been wrong before.

all I see is us picking the low hanging fruit once again.
I don’t want to get too scientific but was the DNA injection better than a total lobotomy? 🤔😂

I'd be interested to hear who you think the Tigers should have signed. Because you're sort of restricted in who you can sign to (a) players that are available and (b) no-one. Have a look here: https://leagueunlimited.com/news/37529-2023-nrl-player-movements/ Which club would you say is picking up all the players we've missed out on? Because it looks to me like there are about 6-10 genuinely high-profile player moves and we've done two or perhaps three of them. Do you think the Dragons (Liddle, Musgrove and Nick Lui-Toso) feel they've recruited better than the Tigers? How about the Knights (Jack Hetherington, Tyson Gamble, Jackson Hastings and Adam Elliott)? Souths (none)? Or the Storm (Tariq Sims, Joe Chan, Eliesa Katoa and Aaron Pene)?

 

[Rusty]

It feels a lot better to me. Api and IP plus Klemmer and hopefully Bateman. I should add on Bateman I do have concerns but we need an edge backrower and there have been some positive reports about his form in the world cup.

We will have 4 new players coming into our pack who would make most teams in the NRL.

ALL teams...

 

[Tim Sheens]

Where exactly has our recruitment improved?
We have signed Klemmer and Staines, both unwanted at their respective clubs.

Could have kept Musgrove and Peachey instead?

 

[Yossarian]

What's the difference between this and how we got in cap trouble with farah.

We put it in writing and told everyone we were doing it.

 

[liltiger]

Unless he kicks stones like he did with us…..

Still couldn't see the media or NRL putting pressure on Parra to release him like they did with us.

 

[liltiger]

Depends on if Brad arther wants an excuse to put junior in a year earlier

I didn't think of that, good point.

 

[liltiger]

You realise we were usually kicking on the last from within our own 40, right?

Agree, but who's responsibility is it for the halfback to be able to kick from further down the pitch.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Going off the most recent update from @CCTW specifically about Blore and Talau, would not surprise me if in the early stages of the season at least, we go with Bateman assuming he signs and either Blore or Talau in the backrow. Papali'i at 13 give the kid (Matamua) a bit more time to develop and bring him along slowly. Papali'i speculated he wanted to play through the middle anyway.

 

[tony soprano]

Going off the most recent update from @CCTW specifically about Blore and Talau, would not surprise me if in the early stages of the season at least, we go with Bateman assuming he signs and either Blore or Talau in the backrow. Papali'i at 13 give the kid a bit more time to develop and bring him along slowly. Papali'i speculated he wanted to play through the middle anyway.

Yeah could be some surprises there the way the 30 squad is looking.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Great update, thanks. Don’t think Bateman will be announced this week. The club has been feeding us one re-signing/new signing/release p/week. Matamua following that trend.

There is the transfer fee, being released from his current club, perhaps a visa, relocating his family. Do they intend to remain in Australia after rugby league.? There is a lot to consider and arrange for Bateman (and WTs) than signing a contract.

 

[twentyforty]

At the very, very least you have to acknowledge it's possible Maguire wasn't a "perfectly good" coach. Identifying what was wrong with the Tigers last year doesn't have to be an either or - it's possible that other things were bad AND Maguire wasn't any use. I guess time will tell: if you're right I imagine he'll be snapped up by another club in due course and go on to be very successful. I have my doubts but I've been wrong before.

I'd be interested to hear who you think the Tigers should have signed. Because you're sort of restricted in who you can sign to (a) players that are available and (b) no-one. Have a look here: https://leagueunlimited.com/news/37529-2023-nrl-player-movements/ Which club would you say is picking up all the players we've missed out on? Because it looks to me like there are about 6-10 genuinely high-profile player moves and we've done two or perhaps three of them. Do you think the Dragons (Liddle, Musgrove and Nick Lui-Toso) feel they've recruited better than the Tigers? How about the Knights (Jack Hetherington, Tyson Gamble, Jackson Hastings and Adam Elliott)? Souths (none)? Or the Storm (Tariq Sims, Joe Chan, Eliesa Katoa and Aaron Pene)?

I don’t know how to compartmentalise our poor performance by saying other clubs are worse?
But I’ll have a go...The chooks can fit 3 world class fullbacks into one team. We cannot fit 3 average halves into one?

 

[ancient_magpie]

First of all, apologies for the long post below as I do not get to post often for various reasons. Following on from that, I have just caught up on the forum and... wow.

Anyway.

Matamua upgrade today had nothing to do with 'missing out' on anyone. Sheens has been really impressed with Matamua and his attitude throughout the year - despite being thrown into the deep end. Believes he possess all the skills of a modern 13. It is also an endorsement to the junior pathways and all the boys in the lower grades looking to progress.

Bateman deal is all but going ahead as planned. Only the formalities to sort out at this stage. Should be an announcement within a week but don't hold me to that as the timing is guesswork on my part (based on where it is at).

Don't have much on the Moses meeting as it is very much under wraps, not many details outside of the absolute inner circle. However, there have been many talks between Benji and Moses. Personally, I believe this is very 50/50 at the moment with Parra and Tigers. Dogs little chance right now. Having said that, my belief was that Moses was 100% staying at Parra about a month ago. Take that as you will... The Brooks 180, Hastings moving and reluctance for re-signing Doueihi is not without reason. If Moses falls through, there are other options. As for those hoping for Teddy, forget about it. He has made it clear he is above the Tigers.

The player unhappy with the Hastings decision is not Laurie. Although Laurie is not entirely comfortable with his current contract position as he is looking to extend but the club does not want to offer a long term deal as of yet. It should make for interesting competition between Staines and Laurie.

On Woods, not sure if it is just me but I personally have not heard anything about Woods coming back? Thinking that is just media and fans making assumptions?

The Nanai offer was not the Tigers, i'm fairly well informed (as the club probably is) that he is not looking to move from the Cowboys, however i'm sure he's using the interest from other clubs to maximise his offer from the Cowboys.

In terms of pre-season, hearing the young guys are really impressing. I saw that someone has already alluded to it but Tumeth will likely come into grade into the centres, spend sometime there before he fills out and moves to the second row. The two that have really stood out for Sheens are Talau and Blore. Talau will join Blore in the backrow. He has shown a tremendous attitude since his injury, stayed fit and has taken the move really well, transforming his body to suit a move to the forwards. I have made comment previously but think that Talau will be the breakout player this season. Having watched him closely in the juniors, his footwork, ball work and speed will really suit a middle or edge role. Think a large 5/8 playing at 13. He also played some 13 in the junior rep games, particularly junior schoolboys.

Finally, posted a while ago that the club was headed in the right direction back when things were looking fairly bleak after the spoon. Great to see that Sheens and the club have followed through and the club legitimately looks like it's on the up.

Thanks cctw for a great post .So good after all the crape we have had to read lately .By the way when do you sleep

 

[LUPO]

Going off the most recent update from @CCTW specifically about Blore and Talau, would not surprise me if in the early stages of the season at least, we go with Bateman assuming he signs and either Blore or Talau in the backrow. Papali'i at 13 give the kid a bit more time to develop and bring him along slowly. Papali'i speculated he wanted to play through the middle anyway.

I'd still keep Talau in the centres- can develop under Sheens a Wighton type of centre (strong, dent the line and set up the winger) - improve the defense and I think he can be a real asset this year IMO.

 

[Kelce68]

I'd still keep Talau in the centres- can develop under Sheens a Wighton type of centre (strong, dent the line and set up the winger) - improve the defense and I think he can be a real asset this year IMO.

He can provide serviceable cover for both, which is valuable.

 

[tony soprano]

I'd still keep Talau in the centres- can develop under Sheens a Wighton type of centre (strong, dent the line and set up the winger) - improve the defense and I think he can be a real asset this year IMO.

Given added size think those days are over.